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OfflineShiVersblood
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Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations
    #26347500 - 11/26/19 08:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-mexico-cartels/trump-says-u-s-will-designate-mexican-drug-cartels-as-terrorists-idUSKBN1Y02NJ

Do you think this is a good thing? Mexican drug cartels have been killing more and more people and the Mexican government seems unable to do anything. And then recently Mexican cartels killed 9 American citizens living in Mexico. 6 children and 3 women. Should the USA government do something if the Mexican government is unable or unwilling? Should the USA invade and occupy Mexico?


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #26347518 - 11/26/19 08:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I guess the enforcement goes up from the federal spooks if they are considered terrorists. More priority for the case. That's all. More money goes to fighting the cartels.

Kinda like bumping up the priority rating on a ticket. Or escalating a ticket to someone senior with more power.


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: ShiVersblood] * 4
    #26347524 - 11/26/19 08:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

He should declare the American Government a terrorist group while he's at it. Not only has the US empowered Mexican cartels, it's killed millions in the name of profit over the last century.


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #26347551 - 11/26/19 08:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I have no idea what they should do. But man, it's really, really bad over there (Captain Obvious here).

According to Time Magazine, last year there was north of 33,000 murder investigations that were cartel related.

But yes drug consumption in the United States is the engine behind the cartel's existence...and I don't see our voracious appetite for their product subsiding anytime soon.


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: Niffla]
    #26347562 - 11/26/19 08:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Without the current strategy that the US government employs regarding various substances the cartels wouldn't exist.

But all of us enlightened smart people around here know that.


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: christopera]
    #26347574 - 11/26/19 08:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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christopera said:
Without the current strategy that the US government employs regarding various substances the cartels wouldn't exist.

But all of us enlightened smart people around here know that.




I must say your level of smarts and enlightenment is

:mindblown:

You could change the world with that mind

Which begs the question...what are you doing here hanging out at the pub

Shouldn't you be in a climate change think tank or something


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #26347582 - 11/26/19 08:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

If the cartels are terrorists then that implies terrorists pull the strings of the Mexican government. Regime change time baby!


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: Niffla] * 2
    #26347614 - 11/26/19 09:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: christopera]
    #26347620 - 11/26/19 09:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

hahah... being stalked by the Mexican mafia, this was someones delusion when I was locked down with him....:laugh:


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: Jennys Island]
    #26347634 - 11/26/19 09:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

The Cartels thrive because of a corrupt US government and the DEA. Prohibition and calling people terrorists solves absolutely nothing. Even if this works to get rid of Mexican Cartels then the Colombians or Canadians or someone will take over. The only solution is widespread legalization and regulation of all drugs.

When I buy drugs from gang members I almost always go through Mexican and South American gangs. They are nice, have good service, and a lot of times they hand out some freebies. Can't say the same for other gangs IME.


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #26347644 - 11/26/19 10:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Dang shit is gonna get really heated in the border states. Tension between Mexicans/Latinos and Whites is gonna skyrocket if US starts sending troops into Mexico for military operations. Imagine drones and MRAPs rolling across the border and then Army and Marines shooting the shit out of Mexican towns that are ruled by the cartels. Shit is gonna be nuts.

We'll see if it gets that far. We all know the MIC wants war; and mostly everyone is pushing back against our involvement in the ME. So moving south in Mexico would be good profit for them; but I can't see large scale operations being possible; that would inflame tensions so crazily. I can't even imagine. Most likely we'll see small scale covert ops shit like what we have had going down in Syria and other places. A few thousand troops tops. Hopefully.

Cuz just so yall know; congress signed some shit after 9/11 that states that the military can go after any terrorist organization without approval from congress.


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #26347663 - 11/26/19 10:27 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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The Cartels thrive because of a corrupt US government and the DEA. Prohibition and calling people terrorists solves absolutely nothing. Even if this works to get rid of Mexican Cartels then the Colombians or Canadians or someone will take over. The only solution is widespread legalization and regulation of all drugs.

When I buy drugs from gang members I almost always go through Mexican and South American gangs. They are nice, have good service, and a lot of times they hand out some freebies. Can't say the same for other gangs IME.



    Ding ding take the money out of drug dealing and the cartels will have to sell weapons and do crimes with a victim, it is going to make cartel existence much more difficult if they couldn’t slang meth and make almost as much money as the government. 
  I saw a docu once and the cartels had fully submersible submarines that would essentially deliver drugs to planes.  There’s no way to stop that short of making there product not worth enough to have better tech than the people fighting them.  This was 20 yrs ago too who knows what they’re up to now


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26347679 - 11/26/19 10:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Just another excuse to funnel taxpayer dollars into the pockets of the contractors, banks, and other corrupt corporations running the show.


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: feevers] * 2
    #26347694 - 11/26/19 11:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Just another excuse to funnel taxpayer dollars into the pockets of the contractors, banks, and other corrupt corporations running the show.




Bingo.

There's always gotta be a continued reason for this kind of funding. They are well aware that it is the US drug policy that creates this situation, and this will just give them more reason to keep that policy in place. They always have to create the threat which allows them to funnel money towards fighting the threat they are directly responsible for.

Its just a big circle jerk of cashish.


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: ShiVersblood] * 3
    #26347743 - 11/26/19 11:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

1) Conflict with Mexico helps him get his stupid fucking wall

2) They dgaf about the violence the cartel inflicts. The US government objecting to violence? Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously? They’re pissed that the cartel is grabbing a significant piece of the pie. That money belongs in the bank accounts of US billionaires. Every dollar that the cartel hoards isn’t siphoned off to OUR oligarchy through our system of perpetual debt.

3) American pharmaceutical companies doping our own people and working in tandem with for profit health care, drug rehab, and prison system - addicting tens of millions on opioids and benzos and then milking them for every cent before they die or end up in prison is the fucking biggest and cruelest drug cartel system on earth.


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: christopera]
    #26347754 - 11/27/19 12:05 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Dude, I already solved all the worlds issues with my giant feet. I’ll post some pictures if you’re into that type of thing.




Ending world hunger with your toe nail clippings??

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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: christopera]
    #26347931 - 11/27/19 05:29 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Dude, I already solved all the worlds issues with my giant feet. I’ll post some pictures if you’re into that type of thing.




:creepylurker:


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: Niffla]
    #26348238 - 11/27/19 10:07 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It is a very good thing in my opinion.  Maaking the cartels terrorists means the US army will be able to send troops inn there.  Special ops, helicopters, etc.

Cocaine can be smuggled without killing tens of thousands.  Every group, bikers, mafias of every country do it without murdering thousands.  Why can't the cartels do it?


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #26348362 - 11/27/19 11:29 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Heres a better idea. Legalize all drugs regulate them for purity cartels vanish.


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Re: Donald Trump to legally declare Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations [Re: Patlal]
    #26348388 - 11/27/19 11:45 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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It is a very good thing in my opinion.  Maaking the cartels terrorists means the US army will be able to send troops inn there.  Special ops, helicopters, etc.

Cocaine can be smuggled without killing tens of thousands.  Every group, bikers, mafias of every country do it without murdering thousands.  Why can't the cartels do it?



Because there is production over there.  It ups the stakes


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