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Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? * 3
    #26345925 - 11/26/19 01:28 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I had a few experiences like this that kind of bummed me out. I don't know why but I was just thinking about it.

One time I just bought a new house and it was completely empty except I brought in my backpack of drugs for safe storage. I had an old best friend over from grade school who I hadn't seen in almost 10 years. I just showed him my new house and caught up basically. Then he opened my backpack without asking and found a small jar of dmt. Then I had to give him the explanation of what it was and how it's non addictive mind exploration type of thing. I don't think he ever even smoked weed or anything so it was definitely weird. He didn't seem freaked out or anything but I haven't talked to him since.

Another time this old friend of mine invited me on a float and camping trip with his military buddies. We kind of grew apart after the military. I'm like the complete opposite of those types but I still made the best of it. Well I guess I'm kind of a shy person around people I don't know and especially those type of dude bro military guys. Well the one guy asks me point blank "so tell me something crazy about yourself to make me not think you're a boring person". I kind of was taken back and drawing a blank so I just told him I've done more psychedelics than he's ever heard of more or less. Out of all the things I could have told him that was what came to mind. I could have told him I was in a band, an engineer, anything else but no, stupid me tells a stranger that. He then proceeded to tell me how his sister is a nurse and told him all mushrooms are poisonous to some degree and eating too much shrooms can kill you. I tried to educate him but none of them had any experience or knowledge of psychedelics. It was a weird rest of the weekend.

I generally don't talk about psychedelics or drug use to people who aren't into that. I guess this is just the price we pay for having these experiences. People change I guess but oh well that's my story. I don't know I just wanted to share.


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: searching]
    #26346037 - 11/26/19 04:42 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I think those people just have a lot of stereotypes about psych users and are sort of afraid? Thats how many people are abut gay people, they dont know anyone like that personally but the image the media and pop culture has given them is a bit off putting. I think in the 60s it was how people felt towards weed smokers because they thought all of them are like cheech & chong.


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #26346530 - 11/26/19 11:02 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah one of my mates choose to be a police officer. Didnt really want to hang out with his druggie friends after that


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: Tripsurfer] * 1
    #26346557 - 11/26/19 11:14 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I've had some weird looks from people about them. Turns out it's only from people who literally don't know anything about psychedelics. So fuck em :lol:


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: mongo lloyd] * 3
    #26346603 - 11/26/19 11:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

After the college years, all the people that one runs into that have an interest (and can be trusted to keep their mouth shut about it) tend to fade away into their own lives.

The people remaining are those that would not approve based on lifestyle and statements (or are too flippant and would talk). I would never breathe a word of these things to them-- because it would result in that alienation and potential security risk.

It's been 10+ years since I have had any friends that I could even discuss these things with-- so it has become a solitary, intimate pursuit for me. Even my wife is 99% unaware of this part of my life because it simply doesn't resonate with her.

Well-- except all of you--my friends at the Shroomery-- this place really is a lifeline for those of us with no other avenue of expression about these things
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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: coAsTal]
    #26346850 - 11/26/19 01:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

:hugitout:


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: searching]
    #26346853 - 11/26/19 02:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, who gives a fuck what anti-drug people think. It was a sober person who decided most of the fucked up things like making marijuana illegal, and circumcision possible/legal. They're ignorant as shit and I feel bad for people who will never know or understand.


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26346860 - 11/26/19 02:05 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: coAsTal]
    #26346870 - 11/26/19 02:08 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

:hotdamn:


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: searching] * 1
    #26347202 - 11/26/19 05:30 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I try to put myself in their shoes as much as I can -- of course way more people than not are not going to know anything about psychedelic use, or even care to, and let's face it the vast majority of people out there aren't built for it anyway.

But yeah, it's...annoying to say the least when people who are so ignorant (in the truest sense of the word too) on the subject, and whom have never experienced it, condemn those who do and act as if these psychedelic substances are horrible, evil drugs that were made by satan himself.

It's comical, really.


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: Niffla]
    #26347208 - 11/26/19 05:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I’ve met lots of old acquaintances with one or another chemical addiction who literally scoff at the idea of enjoying a trip.  Probably because they hate what’s in the mirror so much they can’t personally enjoy one.  Different kind of irritating


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26347222 - 11/26/19 05:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Most of my friends will do drugs or used too. I find psychedelics pretty isolating any way. I'm not super social on psychedelics. It's more a quiet storm.


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: Tripsurfer] * 1
    #26347234 - 11/26/19 05:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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:hugitout:




Really ought to find time, at least annually, to kick it with your brethren. Some like to do the music/ arts/crafts camping things! :fishing:


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26347235 - 11/26/19 05:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Most of my friends will do drugs or used too. I find psychedelics pretty isolating any way. I'm not super social on psychedelics. It's more a quiet storm.




Well yeah it's definitely not a social substance.

That's why I find them to be the best solo substances on earth. You don't need anyone. I don't anyway. All I need is a nice blotter, or a few grams of mushrooms, my mind -- and a few things to keep me occupied. 

That's it. Assuming my setting is good and my mind is right, it's always a fantastic time.


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I’ve met lots of old acquaintances with one or another chemical addiction who literally scoff at the idea of enjoying a trip.  Probably because they hate what’s in the mirror so much they can’t personally enjoy one.  Different kind of irritating




I would think that anyone with a sizable ego, or one who is a narcissist (to any degree) would find a psychedelic experience to be pretty frightening.


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: Niffla]
    #26347238 - 11/26/19 05:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

re; ego

Don't gate keep.

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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #26347355 - 11/26/19 06:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I went from like..... 8 friends, to no friends after I began overdosing on dxm and got addicted to it while smoking weed, I would inhale deeply because it dxm is anti-cough.....higher than I could have gone.  had 1 friend hit me up like 3 years later saying he had shrooms, so we shroomed at the beach and it was basically a slow nodding experience... haven't seen besides family for ages it's been a waiting game, I could definitely be a more patient person :mushroom2:


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: Jennys Island]
    #26347395 - 11/26/19 07:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Personally for me I like to be with friends or in social situations on drugs. People around is more fun then isolation I think. On heavy doses of psychedelics sometimes I've been more comfortable solo though. But most of the time on heavy doses I lay down and stare at the hallucinations on the wall or close my eyes and trip.


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: FungiMaster] * 2
    #26347425 - 11/26/19 07:19 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I am fortunate enough to have probably 10 friends including my wife who I can talk to about tripping and most of them will actually trip with me on the rare occasions that I do trip. It was just the few times that non drug users found out about it that sucked. It's like I know these people are good people they just can't fathom that not all drugs are bad or harmful. I wish I could explain it to everyone. I feel like everyone needs to know about it. But it's a lost cause with most "normies".


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    #26347536 - 11/26/19 08:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I am fortunate enough to have probably 10 friends including my wife who I can talk to about tripping and most of them will actually trip with me on the rare occasions that I do trip. It was just the few times that non drug users found out about it that sucked. It's like I know these people are good people they just can't fathom that not all drugs are bad or harmful. I wish I could explain it to everyone. I feel like everyone needs to know about it. But it's a lost cause with most "normies".




My brother-in-law, who's a "normie", good guy and someone I consider a close friend, really doesn't understand it either.

I've tried explaining it to him. He knew I grew mushrooms. Knows I like to trip. He doesn't disapprove of it or anything...he probably deep down thinks I'm a lost cause druggie lol but it doesn't bother him...but yeah when I've had the occasional conversation with him on the subject in the past it's clear he doesn't really grasp what I'm saying when I try to tell him that psychedelics are in a league of their own (and in a positive way) as opposed to street narcotics like coke/meth/heroin/etc.

I think he just sees illegal drugs as illegal drugs. And when I try in vain to tell him how psychs open these different doors and perspectives in your mind, can be enlightening and profound -- you can tell that he's thinking that I'm some out of my mind burned out wannabe hippie or some shit :lol:


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Re: Ever been alienated by old friends for psych use? [Re: Niffla]
    #26347887 - 11/27/19 04:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I have had friends say why don't I stop tripping and "just do cocaine like an adult?" Wait until your 40's i don't think I know any trippers now, one guy who goes to peru every year to do aya and is really annoying an preachy about it. Most people's peak psych use years happen during an age they are least equipped to handle it. Like sneaking around hiding shit from your parents is no way to enjoy a trip. I have a bunch of friends who tried it 30 years ago and had a hard time and never touch it again.


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