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How long for inoculation?
    #26347219 - 11/26/19 05:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

How long is TOO long for inoculation? First time grower here, so no clue. Have 2 sterilized grain bags going for about 12 days with various areas of colonization, but most of the grain still uncolonized. Thanks!


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26347250 - 11/26/19 05:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Pics will help! I use 1lb rye bags that take anywhere from 20-30 days to colonize, all depends on your conditions though.


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: MycoStu]
    #26347254 - 11/26/19 05:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

What did you inoculate with?

Also, let’s see some pics!


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: MycoStu]
    #26347255 - 11/26/19 05:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

also depends on how you inoculated it... did you use an LC? Syringe? Agar cuttings? What are the temps its sitting in? My first grow i let them sit by a window seal and I think the sunlight fried my spawn lol.


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: mushman1017]
    #26348257 - 11/27/19 10:21 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I used a syringe in the sterilized grain bags, here's some photos




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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26348296 - 11/27/19 10:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Well it looks a bit bacterial but you can still let it ride. Just stop handing the bags - let them sit until about 30% of visible grains are colonized, then shake.

12 days isn’t much, esp since you used an MS syringe.
In the future, if you have to go MS>grain, inoculate pint jars. Then transfer colonized grains into bags.


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: feldman114]
    #26354117 - 11/30/19 03:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Was traveling for a few days so I upped the apartment temp to 74(can't keep it above 68 because the Newfie gets warm). Some solid progress was made, though Im not sure if the dark spots are okay/normal. Would it be good to shake now?



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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26354223 - 11/30/19 04:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If you click on 'Pics' up top, below your username, you'll find the place to upload pics. You can then paste the code and get thumbnails (while also ensuring that pics remain viewable in the future).


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: curious.psychonaut]
    #26369193 - 12/08/19 02:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

While it's obviously not a science just looking at a photo, how close am I to being able to move this to my tub?



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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26369194 - 12/08/19 02:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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While it's obviously not a science just looking at a photo, how close am I to being able to move this to my tub?





If it's 100% colonized then now


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Tormato]
    #26369258 - 12/08/19 03:08 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Agree, I would start casing that ASAP... personally I prefer lots of coco coir in the tubs after breaking up those grains.


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: w00tmycelium]
    #26387620 - 12/17/19 06:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So it's been in the tub for around a week. Not sure how it's supposed to look, but this is how it be



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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26387673 - 12/17/19 07:05 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Uhh...did you put any substrate in there


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: cronicr]
    #26387676 - 12/17/19 07:07 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Uhh...did you put any substrate in there



I was just about to say the same thing :lol:


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: cronicr]
    #26387808 - 12/17/19 08:48 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

It was about 50% vermiculite 50% grain bags. Is that not enough?


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26387814 - 12/17/19 08:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

No coir? Just verm and grains? If so thats not right


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26387818 - 12/17/19 08:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Should be more like 80% coir 20% vermiculite and then your grains


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26387821 - 12/17/19 08:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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It was about 50% vermiculite 50% grain bags. Is that not enough?



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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: narmaduke]
    #26387828 - 12/17/19 09:03 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26387831 - 12/17/19 09:04 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Follow the above link guy im sorry but i think you done fucked up from the sounds of it. Could be salvagable though


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26387844 - 12/17/19 09:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I basically just followed this video that  a couple of my friends had success with.


I realize most people on here think this style wont work(only realize that after having purchased the materials and finding this site later)

What would be the suggestion to make this tub work out? I had contacted a local shop for coir yesterday but no response.


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26387848 - 12/17/19 09:26 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ya that guy kinda miss spoke you could probally get away with just coir but not just vermiculite. If i was you i would try an get my hands on a block of coir and pasturize that alone like in the link i sent then after its cooled down mix in your grain verm mix you already have.


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26387850 - 12/17/19 09:28 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You have a petsmart or petco around anywhere that would have reptile supplies is going to have coir otherwise amazon but then you have to wait for it to ship


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26387854 - 12/17/19 09:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Plenty of petfood places in the area, but also several growshops that may have it. I will call tomorrow and see what I can find. Once I've prepared the coir should I break up what I have in the tub and mix the coir in, or use it as a casing?


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26387856 - 12/17/19 09:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Break it up and mix into prepard coir save a little bit of you pred coir and case meening cover everything with say 1/4 in of just coir


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    #26387859 - 12/17/19 09:38 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26387863 - 12/17/19 09:40 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26387865 - 12/17/19 09:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Just remember you already mixed verm into your grain so skip that when you pasturize your coir and do not pasturize your grainverm with your coir otherwise you would deff kill your mycelium best of luck hope it all works out for you just make sure you do your homework and really try and get a grasp on what your doing shit happens so dont feel bad


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26389143 - 12/18/19 04:54 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Just remember you already mixed verm into your grain so skip that when you pasturize your coir and do not pasturize your grainverm with your coir otherwise you would deff kill your mycelium best of luck hope it all works out for you just make sure you do your homework and really try and get a grasp on what your doing shit happens so dont feel bad




Thanks, was able to pick up coir today and currently pasteurizing it. Hoping I can salvage something! Live and learn, I was doing this for fun anyways, not worried about trial & error.


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26402178 - 12/26/19 09:06 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

So I got the coir mixed in after pasteurizing, it colonized pretty well and it seems like it's going well, but I dont really know what to look for. Here are a couple photos I took with the macro lens. Not sure if this is "cobweb" that is described in the contam section




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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26402466 - 12/27/19 04:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I dont see any problems youve got some pins 🤙


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26402475 - 12/27/19 04:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Im glad to see your projects still chugging along zg you will have some fruits for you labor real soon congrats knock on wood ive never had any issues with contams and through reading other peoples problems it easy to get stressed out especially when its your first go and you have all this time invested. That said ime mushies are pretty resiliant and as long as you start out with clean grains and pasturized substrate once its colonized its pretty hard to screw up it can deffiantly happen but its not likely at this point.


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Phantom45]
    #26402484 - 12/27/19 04:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Good job Z.G :kenthumbup:
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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: N0Tmushroom2THINK]
    #26402727 - 12/27/19 09:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the reassurance, the assistance has certainly been appreciated. Im excited to see how these do and I'll keep posting the macro photos as they grow


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26402778 - 12/27/19 09:45 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Great job, I'm keeping an eye on this thread looking forward for the canopy images :mushroom2::thumbup:


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: thekickingbird]
    #26402960 - 12/27/19 12:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Lol, says a lot for how powerful the myc is. Awesome.


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: dyolfknip]
    #26403268 - 12/27/19 04:58 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Man, a day makes a huge difference in the mushroom world. Taken tonight -




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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26403462 - 12/27/19 06:37 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Damn nice recovery, that pinset looks really good.

Just wait for two days from now, the first grow I did I had to pull up pictures from the day before to make sure I wasn’t crazy and they really doubled in size overnight.

Do you know what kind they are?


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26403552 - 12/27/19 07:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Definitely bookmarking this one. It seems like you did a fairly good job of saving this grow. Also, you've done some cool science we can all sort of learn from in some way... Hehe! :shrug: 

I've been a bit in-active for a while....but I really dig this!

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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: morty422]
    #26403574 - 12/27/19 07:59 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

The guy is just trying to sell his grain bags to a small percentage of people who watch that video.

Always PC/make your own stuff if you want a higher grow success rate and to get better at your shroom skillz.

As for the ease of doing a shoebox check out this tek if you want something suuuuuuuper simple: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26369384

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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26403663 - 12/27/19 08:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Damn nice recovery, that pinset looks really good.

Just wait for two days from now, the first grow I did I had to pull up pictures from the day before to make sure I wasn’t crazy and they really doubled in size overnight.

Do you know what kind they are?




Yeah Im pretty shocked. Obviously with it being my first time I don't know what to expect, but Im glad I asked on here and was able to hopefully salvage the grow.

These were B+, most of what I read was that this is one of the better beginner mushrooms which are more forgiving. In my next grow I'll be looking into picking a different tek and avoiding the kits, just hard to decide with all the different options on here


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Re: How long for inoculation? [Re: Z.G]
    #26405959 - 12/29/19 09:07 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Love watching them grow :mushroom2:



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