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First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia)
#26336136 - 11/21/19 02:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dear Shroomheads,
after increasing the fresh air in the grow bag, there is progress in myc growth aswell as pinning which made me quite happy.
Today i noticed 5 minor pins poking through
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Edited by SpearCaps (02/18/20 06:53 AM)
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: SpearCaps]
#26336145 - 11/21/19 03:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Your surface dried out. Looks like you misted it recently. But it mats up like that when it gets dry.
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: Rot]
#26340035 - 11/23/19 11:54 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Gotcha,
the surface gets this white myc(?) mat over it when it tends to dry out.
I'm upping my misting by 300% now, hope to get some surface pearls back again. It seems so dry ever since the first pins started showing. You ever experienced this?
Also is there a way to convert my helpless growbox into a more efficient grow. Maybe take it out of the box, so the side pins/bodys can develope and just let mother nature do its thing. There gotta be a teq for converting a growbox into a better thing right?
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: Rot]
#26340084 - 11/23/19 12:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rot said: Your surface dried out. Looks like you misted it recently. But it mats up like that when it gets dry.
Will it still fruit from the top when it mats up like that?...if he dials in his surface conditions better..? Or does it become too late when the surface gets matted?
I had this happen once but didn't wait to find out... There were so many side/bottom pins i took it out of its shoebox, flipped it upside down, and fruited it in my sgfc.. I hope it doesnt happen again but im curious just in case
Edited by Beerusthedestroyer (11/23/19 12:17 PM)
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Quote:
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Rot said: Your surface dried out. Looks like you misted it recently. But it mats up like that when it gets dry.
Will it still fruit from the top when it mats up like that?...if he dials in his surface conditions better..? Or does it become too late when the surface gets matted?
I had this happen once but didn't wait to find out... There were so many side/bottom pins i took it out of its shoebox, flipped it upside down, and fruited it ...
My thinking aswell. There is still new pinning visible on the surface and it gets more and more, but not comparable to the side.
What was the background for you for the top to mat onto?
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: SpearCaps]
#26340472 - 11/23/19 02:56 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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SpearCaps said:
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Beerusthedestroyer said:
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Rot said: Your surface dried out. Looks like you misted it recently. But it mats up like that when it gets dry.
Will it still fruit from the top when it mats up like that?...if he dials in his surface conditions better..? Or does it become too late when the surface gets matted?
I had this happen once but didn't wait to find out... There were so many side/bottom pins i took it out of its shoebox, flipped it upside down, and fruited it ...
What was the background for you for the top to mat onto?
Im confused as to what you mean by background....?
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Humidity chamber if you dont wanna fw the sgfc... Ive also read conflicting opinions on casing the substrate after fully colonized.. Like, it can help maintain surface moisture but it may trap contaminates on the surface or some ol shit,, i case some of mine after fully colonized with no issues. But i try to maintain proper surface moisture while theyre uncased as well to dial in my technique Definetly have as many uncased tubs/bags as well as cased ones..
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The shoebox in my signature was totally matted into the casing, thought I had killed it but all of a sudden it shot pins out everywhere
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: A.k.a]
#26344815 - 11/25/19 02:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: The shoebox in my signature was totally matted into the casing, thought I had killed it but all of a sudden it shot pins out everywhere
Hey bro I'm curious what kind of ratios of spawn:sub do you use? And average yield per quart of spawn?
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Beerusthedestroyer said:
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SpearCaps said:
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Beerusthedestroyer said:
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Rot said: Your surface dried out. Looks like you misted it recently. But it mats up like that when it gets dry.
Will it still fruit from the top when it mats up like that?...if he dials in his surface conditions better..? Or does it become too late when the surface gets matted?
I had this happen once but didn't wait to find out... There were so many side/bottom pins i took it out of its shoebox, flipped it upside down, and fruited it ...
What was the background for you for the top to mat onto?
Im confused as to what you mean by background....?
Oh sorry, that was not very clear. I meant to inquire the reason for your grow to mat up on the surface; what where the causes?
Also i have tried to migrate it into a HC, but i'm afraid its too late: Its way too late into fruting that i can't get the grow substrate out the box without breaking the existing pins. And it is even getting bigger cause the fruits start to grow under the original cake and thus lift it in the air.
Pictures follow shortly
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: SpearCaps]
#26345198 - 11/25/19 05:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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As was afraid to break the substrate and to fuck with a grow that is at least fruiting, i left it in the little box and but it into the HC like that, but i'm not sure if i should just cut the box open with sissors rather.
Here you can see why i want to migrate in the first place: The sides are full of pins and the bodys are already growing big, while on the top almost nothing. The bodies even sttarted to lift the cake up 1-2cm from the ground.
Noticed some blue colouring aswell, looks like bruising so i'm not worried. But on one hand i think i have not enough water which fucks of the top surface, but then brusing as a sign of too mich water or not?
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Edited by SpearCaps (02/18/20 06:54 AM)
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: SpearCaps]
#26345215 - 11/25/19 06:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow that is a giant side shroom. They actually seem to do ok like that might just have a weird shaped cap. Looks like most of those are big enough you could probably dump the sub out and even if they broke off they’re only a day or two from being mature anyhow.
I use about 1qt spawn to 1.5 sub. The one I had that matted from being soaked yielded about 23g dry first flush 15g second flush and currently pinning the 3rd.
Yes the little ones are active, even more potent gram for gram.
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Edited by A.k.a (11/25/19 06:00 PM)
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: A.k.a]
#26345253 - 11/25/19 06:19 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Wow that is a giant side shroom.
Actually looks like two shrooms that have combined somehow 
Congrats on your harvest!! Can only envy that.
With "matted by being soaked" you mean soaked as in soaked the cake in water or was it soaking wet?
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: SpearCaps]
#26345289 - 11/25/19 06:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I made the coir slightly too wet and then way over misted. The humidity in my room is usually 16% and I was trying to give it a lot of fresh air not realizing how quickly it would dry out. So it was a cycle of too dry then too wet for a couple days.
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: A.k.a]
#26345341 - 11/25/19 07:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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The micro climate in-between the sub and the container is better then the surface conditions.
You could take the sub out of the box for the second flush, even if its breaks it will still fruit.
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: staytrippy420]
#26346107 - 11/26/19 06:08 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I made the coir slightly too wet and then way over misted. The humidity in my room is usually 16% and I was trying to give it a lot of fresh air not realizing how quickly it would dry out. So it was a cycle of too dry then too wet for a couple days.
Yeah it seems at least that might be the issue for me aswell. 
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staytrippy420 said: The micro climate in-between the sub and the container is better then the surface conditions.
You could take the sub out of the box for the second flush, even if its breaks it will still fruit. 
Will do it for the second flush, right now i will jst et it grow out and then harvest.
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Edited by SpearCaps (11/26/19 06:09 AM)
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: SpearCaps]
#26346717 - 11/26/19 12:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Update time

Decided to harvest, as one of the caps was starting to tear in the middle due to being pressed against the wall and being too large. Also two of the caps broke their veil.

For further operations, the cake is now put back into the HC without the shoebox without prior soaking. I thought so, as i saw quite a few miniature pins and the growing went really well at the moment. So i would instead then up the moisture a bit.

Let me know what you think.
PS: Are the ones with the open veil actually good?
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Re: First Grow - Side Pinning Problem (King Cambodia) [Re: SpearCaps]
#26346724 - 11/26/19 01:02 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Those look great you got some nice fat gnarly stems.
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