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cronicr



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Re: Gypsum vs no Gypsum for monotubs [Re: bodhisatta]
#26347211 - 11/26/19 05:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: While some gourmet farms probably do see a yield increase from gypsum remember they use spawn ratios 1:10 or lower. Considerably less spawn to substrate than we use. Grain has these minerals too we use far more grain and probably don't need gypsum as a supplement. Try it for yourself and see though. I would find 20% hard to believe even for a gourmet farm tho.
Exactly our spawn rates make additives pretty useless and I believe it's more of an up to 20%. They mostly talk about thicker meatier fruits with gypsum but with cubes I've never noticed and diff but I like it in my grains and casing layers
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Re: Gypsum vs no Gypsum for monotubs [Re: cronicr]
#26347276 - 11/26/19 06:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Never said I didnt believe, just that your numbers are far north of average, and claims like that need to be backed up. I didnt assume anything just made statements based on the data available. Most people only go 2-3 flushes before tossing subs so why would I expect any different from you?
Thats why I asked how much spawn and how many flushes. My tubs are 45 wt and I use 4 qts spawn to 6 qts sub, I also only go for 2 flushes, so I never get close to those numbers per tote, but per qt of spawn my overall yield is similar. Sure I could milk another flush or two but Iād rather toss and start a new one
Like I said, hope you got a clone so you can keep repeating that success. Its not the average result.
Regardless of all that.., gypsum aint gonna give you a 20% increase in yield and I stand by that 100%
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cronicr



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Re: Gypsum vs no Gypsum for monotubs [Re: AyePlus]
#26347289 - 11/26/19 06:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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AyePlus said: Never said I didnt believe, just that your numbers are far north of average, and claims like that need to be backed up. I didnt assume anything just made statements based on the data available. Most people only go 2-3 flushes before tossing subs so why would I expect any different from you?
Thats why I asked how much spawn and how many flushes. My tubs are 45 wt and I use 4 qts spawn to 6 qts sub, I also only go for 2 flushes, so I never get close to those numbers per tote, but per qt of spawn my overall yield is similar. Sure I could milk another flush or two but Iād rather toss and start a new one
Like I said, hope you got a clone so you can keep repeating that success. Its not the average result.
Regardless of all that.., gypsum aint gonna give you a 20% increase in yield and I stand by that 100%
My bad fam I didn't even read most replies I was at work but I was just stating where the 20% number stems from
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Re: Gypsum vs no Gypsum for monotubs [Re: bodhisatta]
#26347294 - 11/26/19 06:20 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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shorn253 said: I've regularly been getting around one pound dry per 64 qt monotub, however the price of horticultural gypsum is rather steep. If I could pull similar weight and potency without using gypsum, I would prefer this. I've heard it's pretty important for calcium, sulfur and ph buffering and have heard claims that it increases yields by over twenty percent. My results have been great but i have yet to try a tub without gypsum and am hoping someone can chime in about how necessary it is.
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bodhisatta said: While some gourmet farms probably do see a yield increase from gypsum remember they use spawn ratios 1:10 or lower. Considerably less spawn to substrate than we use. Grain has these minerals too we use far more grain and probably don't need gypsum as a supplement. Try it for yourself and see though. I would find 20% hard to believe even for a gourmet farm tho.
I use 2% gypsum by weight of coco. See my signature but remember it doesnt really do much. I just had tones laying around so I am using it up then back to 100% coco.
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