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Do you test your LSD before taking it?
    #26345560 - 11/25/19 08:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys,
I’m planning on trying LSD for the first time. A lot of the research I’ve done states that I should test the LSD first.. and of course I want to be safe anyway, but I am having a hard time finding a test kit. The only luck I’ve had is a test kit website where they sell them for like $50. Does anyone know where I could purchase an affordable test kit? And how often do people actually test their LSD before taking it?
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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: GoddessOfJupiter]
    #26345582 - 11/25/19 08:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

realistically testing is so easy to hack, its a good way to know that it isn't lsd for sure, but you still really don't have a clue what isotope it is or whether its just something with an indole. it should be relatively tasteless, If you can get your hands on an adderol that has the little pellets in it, taste what they taste like, if your blotter ever tastes/feels like that. it's 25i or something similar. generally it should be tasteless. as for testing, I used to use a kit, now I just take a tab for a test trip before going nuts. once your used to it, you know if what you're taking is real. I have yet to come across anyone who tries selling 25i as acid, most everyone knows how reckless and dangerous it would be and nobody wants to end up with a murder charge for selling a $5 tab


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: 330ci]
    #26345947 - 11/26/19 02:02 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

https://www.amazon.ca/LSD-Test-Kit-50-tests/dp/B00H8K09UG

Amazon Canada has them.

I question the value of them these days since you are most likely to get "fake" LSD that is 1p or similar anyway. You basically have to try and judge how fast it turns purple. If you trip and it wasn't bitter it was likely a lysergamide, determining which one is probably going to require GCMS. You would be buying a test kit and still not knowing what you took. You could eliminate Nbomes or DOx, but the lack of taste eliminates those anyway.

A few years ago during he nbome epidemic it was crucial to test, while I can't say for sure you aren't going to get nbomed, it seems to be far less likely these days.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: 330ci]
    #26345948 - 11/26/19 02:04 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I only take lsd that other people i know have taken before me  :grin:


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: M-420]
    #26346055 - 11/26/19 05:05 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Never tested it...

I've had lsd 6 times in my life. 2 of those 6 were bunk. The other 4 were amazing.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: M-420]
    #26346086 - 11/26/19 05:54 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

This is also a good rule of thumb, but when i'm popping 10+ tabs i'm not relying on someone elses word. also, never hurts to cut a small piece of the tab and eat that first, if it's an nbome you will know immediately(numbing mouth, nasty taste.) i'd taste a piece of newspaper so you can see how bitter ink tastes, blotter will never be more bitter than that is if's real. and ultimately having someone with you the first time is probably the most valuable thing to have.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: viraldrome]
    #26346091 - 11/26/19 05:58 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

some kid I went to school with seriously fucked his mind up with a few tabs of 25i, so glad i've never had it unwittingly sold to me. but even when it was floating around, noone was ever selling it as acid, and the kid selling it went to prison for years despite it being an RC at the time.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: 330ci] * 1
    #26346108 - 11/26/19 06:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I do test. Dont want to end up taking nbome or dox. And I was told before that this tab is lsd, but after I tested it was something else. Better to be safe than sorry!


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: kate148]
    #26346138 - 11/26/19 06:34 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

what test do you do? if it's ehrlichs you still really don't know if it's LSD just means it has an indole present which could be quite a few drugs. one should be concerned, but you can only do so much. if you have to worry about your product, I wouldn't advise taking it. if you question your blotter before the trip, you'll definitely be questioning it on the trip from my experience, and that's never a good time.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: 330ci]
    #26346277 - 11/26/19 08:29 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I did acid from ages 16-21, FINALLY decided to get a test kit and found out I was ingesting (and sharing with others) MXE, Methoxetamine.  It probably wasn't on every occasion because the sources of the tabs always varied, but discovering that was enough to scare me away from blotter.
I have had some of the most fun of my life on research chemicals, I'm just praying I don't wake up one day with organ failure or something from abusing a drug we know NOTHING about.

As mentioned above, a test kit will just point you in the right direction of somethings' composition, but that's a good place to start if you are trying to decide if your health could be at risk.
I always think if you have a spare 1/4 hit to test then do it, worst case you wasted 1/4 of a hit.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: MycoStu]
    #26346291 - 11/26/19 08:42 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

This is why I don't mess with shit anymore. If I want to trip I'll take mushrooms and I always test my mdma.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: MycoStu]
    #26346316 - 11/26/19 08:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I did acid from ages 16-21, FINALLY decided to get a test kit and found out I was ingesting (and sharing with others) MXE, Methoxetamine.  It probably wasn't on every occasion because the sources of the tabs always varied, but discovering that was enough to scare me away from blotter.
I have had some of the most fun of my life on research chemicals, I'm just praying I don't wake up one day with organ failure or something from abusing a drug we know NOTHING about.




Are you sure? Because a dose of MXE does not fit on a blotter at all.
Typical dosage of MXE is 30 to 40 mg.
A single blotter can hold 5 to 6 mg at max. You would have to take like 5+ blotters to get moderate effects.. :shrug:

Also, MXE lasts only 4 to 5 hours or so. You should have known that it's not acid right after your first "trip".

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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: 330ci]
    #26346336 - 11/26/19 09:06 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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what test do you do? if it's ehrlichs you still really don't know if it's LSD just means it has an indole present which could be quite a few drugs.




That's right.
But if it has an indole it's most likely a lysergamide. DOx and nBOMEs don't react with ehrlich as far as I know. What else is there that has an indole that could be confused with acid?
The novel lsd analogs are pretty safe to ingest. 1p, ald, eth-lad, they are all very nice, some are even better than lsd in my experience. :smirk:

Though these analogs are very rarely put on other blotters than the well known white, correctly labled original blotters. Only very few people have these analogs as crystal, I think.

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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26346390 - 11/26/19 09:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Personally I haven't seen a RC in years, but internet legend says that some people would put substances containing an indole ring to trick LSD tests. I have a couple local sources that are well plugged into the EDM scene and have consistently provided good clean product. the interwebs is pretty awesome as well.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: 330ci]
    #26346400 - 11/26/19 09:45 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Well we have plenty of RC In UK :frown:


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: kate148]
    #26346424 - 11/26/19 10:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

never can be too safe then, the police took RC's on with a vengeance here. not to say there isn't any risk, but my fam hasn't had any problems recently. advantages of sticking to 2 safe connections instead of getting it wherever.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: 330ci]
    #26346476 - 11/26/19 10:39 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I took ages for me to finally find what I wanted,  seriously.  I was starting to lose hope and considering ordering on dark web. But finally, one day, happy ending, got what I was looking for! Funnily enough I took my first real acid when I was 26, and when I was younger and didn't even know much about drugs I told myself,  I will try it when I'm 26 haha!

And I do still consider buying off dark web as I pay £10 for tab :/


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: kate148]
    #26346522 - 11/26/19 10:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I was 25 myself and damn was it worth the wait


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26346581 - 11/26/19 11:24 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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I did acid from ages 16-21, FINALLY decided to get a test kit and found out I was ingesting (and sharing with others) MXE, Methoxetamine.  It probably wasn't on every occasion because the sources of the tabs always varied, but discovering that was enough to scare me away from blotter.
I have had some of the most fun of my life on research chemicals, I'm just praying I don't wake up one day with organ failure or something from abusing a drug we know NOTHING about.




Are you sure? Because a dose of MXE does not fit on a blotter at all.
Typical dosage of MXE is 30 to 40 mg.
A single blotter can hold 5 to 6 mg at max. You would have to take like 5+ blotters to get moderate effects.. :shrug:

Also, MXE lasts only 4 to 5 hours or so. You should have known that it's not acid right after your first "trip".

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I was young and knew it wasn't LSD after the first time but didn't think about how little science/testing RC had behind them so I didn't mind I was getting trips at such a low monetary cost. The real price was the physical and mental harm that came from extended use.
Maybe it wasn't pure MXE but I had a large panel test kit that definitely hit on some % MXE. God knows what else was on it.
I've decided against doing synthetic drugs because we have so many natural plants that can do the same thing with little to no processing.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: MycoStu]
    #26346616 - 11/26/19 11:52 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, about 8 years ago I got my first blotters and they haven't been laid with lsd, but DOx and nBOME.
The DOx blotters were really good to be honest. Those psychedelic amphetamines aren't something to worry about, some are really nice. Only the duration of high doses (14 to 20 hours) is something to worry about.
A few hits were DOI, some others DOC and one could have been DOeT (according to the guy I got them from). But I'm not 100% sure. Those DOx were still legal in my country these days.

One time I got an nbome. Not sure which one, but it numbed my mouth for 15min or so, tasted like strong mint toothpaste.
The effects were not so nice. My body felt weird, almost poisoned, and the psychedelic effects were by far not as blissful as lsd is.

I got also some real lsd blotters, but those were highly underdosed. One hit was like 50 or 60 mics, I got barely visuals.

Then I found shrooms and spent the next years with them. You simply know what you get if you grow your own. :wink:

Then I found a source for those new lysergamides, which were also completly legal by that time. My country banned them a few months ago.
But I got them all at the right time, 1p, 1b, ald, eth-lad. Only my al-lad order did never arrive.
The hits were /are true 100mics, wayyy stronger than the lsd I got the years before. Like two hits and you are floored.
Most of those analoges are indistinguishable to real lsd. Well, they are lsd, with a very little modifcation on the molecule to make them technically legal. The effects are 98% the same.

I was 27/28 when I found those analogs (now 32). I bought several sheets, mostly ald which I like the most, and now I have a supply for the rest of my life.

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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26346796 - 11/26/19 01:34 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I usually just cut off a sliver of the tab and see if the effects feel like acid. I’ve never gotten a research chemical yet. I’d Elrich though just to be safe.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26346899 - 11/26/19 02:27 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

What do you think of the eth-lad? I've been sitting on a quarter sheet for some time now and hear it's quite physically rough.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: Lophophora]
    #26346918 - 11/26/19 02:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It can be a bit nauseating during the comeup, but after an hour or 90min it's gone. For me. Not much nausea, nowhere near a puke. Just a bit uncomfortable and feeling cold or so.
I think everybody might react differently, and each trip is unique. I had eth-lad a few times, and the nausea did not occure everytime.
One time it was very noticable with 150mics. But not too distracting. Like I said, it did last maybe an hour at max. Once I hit the peak it was gone. On 200mics I did not have any nausea..

Besides, it's really good. Very close to lsd. But way more visual than lsd at the same dosage.
The differences are more pronounced in higher doses, though. 100mics feel like 120 or so of lsd to me. 150mics feel like 200 to 220mics of lsd, and 200mics feel like 300 or more.
The mind keeps pretty clear. Some say it's hallow and less deep, but I found it to be really fun.

Mix it with lsd for a deep and visually astonishing trip. Like 150mics of eth + 100mics of lsd. :sun:

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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26347186 - 11/26/19 05:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Might just have to try a tab or so next time I trip, nausea isn't gonna put me off I mean it's not pleasant but oh well. Can't be any more nauseating than aya or my recent experiments mixing 1p with 4-AcO-DMT in varying doses of each.


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Re: Do you test your LSD before taking it? [Re: GoddessOfJupiter]
    #26347530 - 11/26/19 08:19 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I sometimes test my LSD hits if i think they are suspect. You can find LSD reagent kits online pretty easily in my experience.

Usually thou i test my hits using my tongue and a clean mouth (no mint or anything). If its an RC, it will taste of a strong bitter chemical and will numb your mouth. If its LSD, it will be tasteless or have a *slight* zingy taste to it.

Using this method, Ive had one nBome hit which i spit out instantly (i hate bitter things) and didnt trip. Ive also had some "mystery Acid" which feela like Acid but feels different than a typical Acid trip. Similar but different effects with a tasteless or near tasteless hit. Its my guess that these "mystery acid" hits are some kind of lysergic RC but who knows :shrug:


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Re: Do you test your LSD before taking it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26347542 - 11/26/19 08:24 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Have never tested any lsd I've taken, only once I was dosed bromodragonfly sold as lsd a long time ago and since have been very careful with where I get lsd. Ut was a good trip in the end once realizing that it was not acid and judt made the best of it. Didn't expect to be high for over 30 hrs tho Haha.


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Re: Do you test your LSD before taking it? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #26347782 - 11/27/19 01:05 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

30 hours?! Glad I never got that, I was close to ordering it, but the trip reports scared me away thank goodness. I love all the info available here and on erowid, it's priceless. All of you in this site who contribute harm reduction and information by ingestion or even watching friends do drugs is priceless. :heart:


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Re: Do you test your LSD before taking it? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26348242 - 11/27/19 10:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck that...


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: CountHTML] * 1
    #26348586 - 11/27/19 12:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I usually just cut off a sliver of the tab and see if the effects feel like acid. I’ve never gotten a research chemical yet.




:whathesaid:

I "test" my acid through a "bioassay" as above.  Hell, I do that with ANY drug not extracted or grown by me personally.  In fact, with EVERY new batch of mushrooms I ever grew in the past, I would dry, ground them all into fine powder and mix in an airtight glass jar to homogenize the mix.  Then I'd start dosing at around 2G and titrate up from there. 

Alexander Shulgin - who self-experimented more unique molecules than any other individual with whom I am familiar - was a proponent of the 20% rule.  After taking any drug for the first time, whether effects were felt or not, he would never increase the dose by more than 20% in case the dose-response curve was steep.  Smart guy.  I observe this rule, always.

Never had any surprises that way.  With acid, you will KNOW when you've got the real thing.  It'll feel good, without feeling speedy.  ALERT maybe, but not speedy.


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Re: Questions about first time LSD [Re: Nature Boy]
    #26348896 - 11/27/19 03:34 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Never tested it


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