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Dango
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Halted growth
#26344958 - 11/25/19 03:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey all, first time grower here. Just have one question.
I started my first batch of Golden Teachers using the PF tek, inoculating and colonizing in quart jars. Mycelium growth was almost immediate and I've had a few jars that just blew up and I've already moved to fruiting and got some great pins going.
However, most of my jars started growing, developed to about a quarter coin sided mycelium blotch, and then just seemed to stop growing. It's been maybe a month now and they've stayed roughly the same. They still look good with no obvious contamination. I have the jars stored in an opaque storage bin with the lid cracked. It's away from any windows and the temp stays consistently at room temperature. There's still some noticeable moisture in the jars. but I'm worried they may start drying out over such a long time.
Is there anything I can do to get them going again? Should I continue to just wait it out?
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Re: Halted growth [Re: Dango]
#26345042 - 11/25/19 04:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pics needed
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Re: Halted growth [Re: Aegis]
#26345051 - 11/25/19 04:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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How are your lids set up?
Does the growth appear walled off?
As mentioned above, pics really help with stuff like this.
Light is beneficial at all stages of growth; there's no need to keep them in an opaque bin.
Edit- should you decide to start another project, go with smaller jars. I recommend 1/2 pint wide mouth jars. Ideally, you want jars as tall as they are wide.
It doesn't sound like it's the issue at play, but large jars are prone to stalling with pf tek.
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Edited by Psilo_citizen (11/25/19 04:43 PM)
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Re: Halted growth [Re: Dango]
#26345063 - 11/25/19 04:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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My jars are between these two examples.

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Quote:
Psilo_citizen said: How are your lids set up?
Does the growth appear walled off?
As mentioned above, pics really help with stuff like this.
Light is beneficial at all stages of growth; there's no need to keep them in an opaque bin.
Edit- should you decide to start another project, go with smaller jars. I recommend 1/2 pint wide mouth jars. Ideally, you want jars as tall as they are wide.
It doesn't sound like it's the issue at play, but large jars are prone to stalling with pf tek.
The lids of the jars have the four holes with micropore tape over them.
I'll remove the lid from the opaque tub to allow some light in.
I'm considering using the remaining jars for a bulk grow. At what point could I mix them into some more grain? Would this be a reasonable way to use them if they continue to stall?
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Re: Halted growth [Re: Dango]
#26345092 - 11/25/19 04:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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There are indicators of health or lack thereof that were looking for. You're going to have to post up your own pics if you want accurate advice.
Your dry verm layer is all that's necessary as a filter; I'd pull that mp, it may be contributing to your issues.
I would recommend getting into agar if you want to inoculate grains. The fact that your jars are stalling suggests there may be a competitor present.
Look into brf paste if you really want to try to save the growth you have, but don't have agar supplies yet.
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Re: Halted growth [Re: Dango]
#26345094 - 11/25/19 04:56 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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U should only use Wide mouth half pints for the pf tek.
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Psilo_citizen said: There are indicators of health or lack thereof that were looking for. You're going to have to post up your own pics if you want accurate advice.
Your dry verm layer is all that's necessary as a filter; I'd pull that mp, it may be contributing to your issues.
I would recommend getting into agar if you want to inoculate grains. The fact that your jars are stalling suggests there may be a competitor present.
Look into brf paste if you really want to try to save the growth you have, but don't have agar supplies yet.
Looking into brf paste, which would be very easy for me to set up right away. As far as transferring my growth into the brf paste, how would you go about that? just mix what I have with the brf paste or should I try and just take the growth and get rid of the remaining brf/verm substrate it's in now?
Edit: How would removing bin lid and micropore tape help? What benefit would that yield?
Edited by Dango (11/25/19 05:12 PM)
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Re: Halted growth [Re: Dango]
#26345131 - 11/25/19 05:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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 Naw just take your flour and water and mix it up then pour into small jars or containers and pressure cook or steam sterilize for 30 to 45 minutes. Once completely cooled take a piece of clean mycelium and put it in the center of the plate. Few days later.
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