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Getting ready for first PE grow, give me your advice/opinions/links
    #26338277 - 11/22/19 02:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I have three quarts of ms penis envy colonizing wbs. I keep seeing a lot of different information on how it needs slightly different steps to grow best, and it’s a little slower and more difficult to pull off. By the time these jars are ready I’ll have 6-8 shoebox grows under my belt so I’ve worked out a lot of the problems that came up initially.

I’m looking for anybody who’s got experience with PE and has tips on what to do differently or links to relevant threads.

So far Ive tried a few different things on my first grows and my current method is spawning wbs to coir at about 1-1.5 ratio, giving it 1/4 inch extra layer on top and putting the lid on to fruit from spawn instead of using foil for a spawn run.

I’ve read a lot about penis envy needing a casing or thicker coir layer at spawning to avoid blobs, or to use less spawn to coir because there’s too much nutrition, and opinions both ways on whether or not a longer spawn run helps.

So what do you wish you had know


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Re: Getting ready for first PE grow, give me your advice/opinions/links [Re: A.k.a]
    #26338314 - 11/22/19 02:42 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Good luck, I hope it goes great.

My advice would be to case your tub and be mindful to not let it dry out before it starts pinning.  It can take 3-4 weeks just to see pins so if your surface dries out you're in trouble. Hence one reason why casing is very important. I recommend doing the 50/50+ peat/verm/lime mix and adding a 1/4-1/2inch casing at spawning.

I have tried uncased PE before (with a top layer of coir) and it gave me 7g dry total out of 4 monotubs and took up 2 months of time and I'm def not alone in that so I dont recommend skipping a casing.. 

PE can be strange and throw you curveballs, such as blobs, so you may see that.  I'm still a PE noob, it's such a weird fun strain.  Have fun, hope you nail it


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Re: Getting ready for first PE grow, give me your advice/opinions/links [Re: Psicomb]
    #26338339 - 11/22/19 02:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I go simple and do a light covering of bulk substrate over the bulk spawn mix and then a half inch of hydrated verm on top then close it up to allow it to colonize.  Once I see 20-50% of the verm layer showing growth through it, I open to fruiting.

It will want more air than other cubes, which also means the casing can dry out if not careful, a heavy mist at opening seems to keep things moist for the start.

The other big thing is that PE will do it’s thing on it’s own time and patients is a virtue, leaving it be and not trying to force it on your schedule will get the best results.


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Re: Getting ready for first PE grow, give me your advice/opinions/links [Re: StygianKnight]
    #26338354 - 11/22/19 03:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

let it sit a few extra days after 100% pe dont need all the extra shit people do to fruit well:thumbup:


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Re: Getting ready for first PE grow, give me your advice/opinions/links [Re: tripdawg420]
    #26344516 - 11/25/19 12:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

So for shoeboxes I’ve been adding a layer of coir and immediately putting in fruiting conditions. With penis envy I should go with foil until completely colonized and then case it instead??


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Re: Getting ready for first PE grow, give me your advice/opinions/links [Re: A.k.a]
    #26344530 - 11/25/19 12:20 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

No foil, just keep the lid on and case it at 100%.


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Re: Getting ready for first PE grow, give me your advice/opinions/links [Re: Psicomb]
    #26344576 - 11/25/19 12:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Ok cool thanks. So the best route is layer of coir at spawning, then once that extra layer is 100% case it?? Crazy it can take 3 weeks to see pins, I’m pretty excited for this. My quarts are over 90%. I’ve got a half pint brf cake I spawned to a small tray 8 days ago that just finished colonizing the extra layer. Planning on using it as a test subject to try this stuff out before starting the 3 shoeboxes.


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