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Trillions of intersecting three-dimensional planes. * 1
    #26343647 - 11/25/19 12:25 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I have found countless similarities between Mushrooms, Salvia and DMT and what is written in a book entitled Zhuan Falun. ( Book can be downloaded here: https://falundafa.org/eng/eng/pdf/Zhuan-Falun-2018.pdf )

Here are some quotes from Master Li Hongzhi (the author of Zhuan Falun) from some of his Buddha Law Lectures that sounded very similar to what some psychonauts unveil in their journey's:


1.) .."What I am talking about is the simplest form of dimensional existence. All physical substances of our mankind, including all substances that you cannot see in the air as well as those substances that we can see such as iron, cement, animals, plants, matter, and the human body, are composed of molecules. Mankind just exists on this plane of molecules, just like a 3-D painting. You live on this plane and you cannot escape it. Mankind’s science is also limited within this one dimension which it cannot even break through..."


2.) "..So then how enormous do you think their cosmic bodies are?! What I have told you is an explanation from within one system, and the degree of complexity is simply beyond words. And it can’t be illustrated by drawings either, because the complexity of the structure is beyond what trillions of intersecting three-dimensional planes could illustrate, so it is very hard to explain it to you clearly.”


3.) “You all know that “universe” is defined by humans. Exactly how large is the universe? Humans can’t explain exactly. The universe we usually refer to is only the cosmic expanse that we see. The largest expanse that modern scientists can observe using telescopes doesn’t exceed this small universe of ours. So put simply, this is what “universe” refers to. Yet this small universe of ours is not even one trillionth of the great cosmos. It’s within this tiny, tiny realm, which is one trillionth of one trillionth of the great cosmos. It’s only a speck of dust within a speck of dust, which is another speck of dust within a speck of dust—that’s how miniscule it is. The entire great cosmos is in motion, and the cosmic bodies of a great expanse are in motion. Wouldn’t you say that the universe is in motion? This motion brings about lives and creates species. Cultivators call this motion “evolution.” The human mind can’t comprehend things at that high a level. This cosmos is so vast that even when you reach the highest level of your cultivation at the time of Consummation, you’ll still find it incredibly vast and will exclaim with awe.”


4.) "...I previously explained to you the concept of the universe, and how multiple Milky Ways make up one expanse of it. That expanse is what we refer to as a small universe. It takes hundreds of millions of universes such as this to make up a universe of the second layer. As for how massive the cosmos ultimately is, suppose we considered a massive universe that consists of a trillion layers to be one domain, and then grouped a trillion of these one-trillion-layer domains together—we could then call this trillion one-trillion-layered domains a particle of air. Such particles permeate the conference hall here. Although that amounts to a massive number of universes, this is still but a small, insignificant particle in just one dimension of the universe. When I arrived at the end while doing Fa-rectification (Law Rectification), I saw that the form of beings was not something the beings below would be capable of understanding anymore; as the Fa’s principles ascended, there would be simply no way for gods at lower planes to understand them. When I arrived at that realm and its state, I ultimately discovered that it too was but one particle of dust in the cosmos.”


5.) “The boundless, measureless dimensions all have their own times, and the differences among the times, and the number of times, are also boundless and measureless, and that's what has caused the huge differences among the times in different dimensions. While the wave of the hand takes place, in some places it's almost in sync, while in some places decades, centuries, millennia, or tens of thousands of years have passed, and in other places some hundreds of millions of years, or even millions of millions of years, or some boundless and measureless amount of time has passed.”


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Re: Trillions of intersecting three-dimensional planes. [Re: blackclo]
    #26343702 - 11/25/19 01:44 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Your #3 here is where the magic happens IMHO.


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"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance." — Confucius


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Re: Trillions of intersecting three-dimensional planes. [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26402305 - 12/27/19 12:20 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Loaded Shaman said:
Your #3 here is where the magic happens IMHO.




Another interesting excerpt from one of Master Li Hongzhi Buddha Law excerpts:

“In regards to the speed in this dimension that people nowadays know of, it has even greater energy that people haven’t discovered and can’t utilize. The ideas of what’s the largest and smallest all come from the perspective of human understanding; they are understandings within the range of the human dimension and time field. Size, as conceptualized by humans, doesn’t exist in this universe.

So in the universe, what is fast—as referred to by you— depends on the level. For example, the rate at which a very high-level god speaks is still faster than the speed of your mind—even when that god is speaking very, very slowly. The words I’m saying here and what I just said about your being attached have just taken place, but in a specific dimension they actually occurred hundreds of years ago. That ’s how big the difference is. The universe is just incredibly vast. The differences in time fields have formed the universe’s complicated dimensions.

Actually, not being subject to the restrictions of time, that’s what is most rapid. But human beings will never really understand the real meaning of that sentence. Your idea, “what type of matter has the greatest speed,” is a human notion and a human understanding. Time is not absolute, even in this present dimension of ours. As you know, I mentioned in Zhuan Falun that a certain star is seen to be 150 thousand light years away from us.

But in fact, I was only discussing it by using what human beings can understand with contemporary science . That ’s not really how it is. Then how is it? Let’s think about it: There exist different times in different dimensions. Within the expanse of our Earth there is a time field, and everything is confined within the boundaries of that time.

As soon as a man-made satellite goes beyond our atmosphere it is in another time field , which is definitely not the same as Earth’s . So there are also the time fields of other planets when it passes by those planets. The larger the cosmic body, the greater the time and speed differences within it.

It’s said that it takes 150 thousand light years for us to see the things that occur in the Milky Way system. Actually, let me tell you that perhaps you can see them in just two or three years. Why? Because the speed of light, too, is subject to the restrictions of time fields. When light penetrates through different time fields, its speed , “ shwa—, shwa—, shwa—,” suddenly becomes fast or slow.

When it gets here to our Earth, it then conforms to Earth’s time field and becomes extremely slow. There is simply no way to assess the time in the universe using this time field that Earth’s inhabitants can comprehend. Humankind’ s understanding of truth, of matter, life, the universe, and many things, including the development of human beings, is wrong.”


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Re: Trillions of intersecting three-dimensional planes. [Re: blackclo]
    #26402415 - 12/27/19 02:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

What occupies my mind at this current frontier is :
When science in coming years gives answers for this and many other phenomenon what next mystery will humanity latch on to or jump to? Will a major portion of people simply retreat into the 'experience' space of this still or will their minds render different 'next level' thought having now a solid scientific foundation from which to leap from.

Everyone's having the same experiences... telling the same stories for ages... Births new thinking/philosophy/theology/spirituality/religion/etc/etc...  Then someone comes along and combines it and discoveries the immutable science
(repeat)

Progress...

So, after there is a real answer for this, what comes next?


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Re: Trillions of intersecting three-dimensional planes. [Re: r00tcmplx]
    #26572690 - 04/02/20 07:03 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

r00tcmplx said:
What occupies my mind at this current frontier is :
When science in coming years gives answers for this and many other phenomenon what next mystery will humanity latch on to or jump to? Will a major portion of people simply retreat into the 'experience' space of this still or will their minds render different 'next level' thought having now a solid scientific foundation from which to leap from.

Everyone's having the same experiences... telling the same stories for ages... Births new thinking/philosophy/theology/spirituality/religion/etc/etc...  Then someone comes along and combines it and discoveries the immutable science
(repeat)

Progress...

So, after there is a real answer for this, what comes next?




I think what comes next is a new form of science. A science that transcends the current Western scientific paradigm. Take a look at this talk from Master Li Hongzhi. He compares our Current Scientific establishment to Buddha Law:

The Confines of Modern Science and the Breadth and Profundity of Buddha Fa:

https://falundafa.org/eng/eng/html/zfl2/zfl2.htm#8


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