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Cubes with no psilocybin?
#26342415 - 11/24/19 12:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anyone ever purposefully breed and isolate a strain to contain no psilocybin? Unlike others I've met I really like the flavor and texture of dried cubes and was hoping to get a strain with no psychoactive effects so I can eat them as snacks. It could also be a gateway to legalization similar to how CBD hemp is paving the way for national marijuana legalization. Its counterintuitive but makes a lot of sense when you think about the implications it would have. People bred cannabis to have only trace thc and it effectively gave anyone arrested with weed a viable legal defense to escape conviction. If we could get legislation to allow the cultivation of psilocybe species for culinary use it would completely change the game. I'm interested to hear your thoughts and opinions on this matter.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Shroomhunts] 1
#26342443 - 11/24/19 12:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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lmaoooo, no just no. In no way would a dud cube be paving a path similar to CBD.. CBD still has benefits besides "taste" BOI. You say,"Its counterintuitive but makes a lot of sense when you think about the implications it would have" please explain `..........how in the fuck would it "completely change the game" sorry for being soo forward, but cmon dude
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26342452 - 11/24/19 01:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn buddy. Good on ya. I can get down on the freshies from time to time, but those dry friends do not do it for me. I've had some dried gourmets that have a very similar taste, I'll take a look at my local market and see what was in them. But, I imagine, if you've got a taste for dry cubes, those gourmets won't cut it. I'll let you know nonetheless.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: footpath]
#26342495 - 11/24/19 01:20 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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No one has even made an attempt to do this. Selectively breeding it out would probably be near impossible and using genetic tools would require a research lab and research budget right now.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: footpath]
#26342509 - 11/24/19 01:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I enjoy the taste of fresh cubes as well, however the taste of fresh woodlovers particularly ovoids is amazing. Way better than any store bought mushrooms I've had. I really do like the taste of dried cubes, I got a few friends that do too. I get cravings for them from time to time but It would be awesome to be able to eat them whenever I please without the associated effects. I really think they have potential as a choice edible, they are easy to cultivate, have a unique taste and great yield. I really don't see how the government could stop you from selling them because the current laws prohibit the mushrooms because they contain psychedelic drugs. The laws don't prohibit specific species just the drugs so you could potentially have a LEGAL PSILOCYBE FARM. How could you not see the potential is such a venture?
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26342511 - 11/24/19 01:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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So your saying this is virgin ground? How do we know its impossible if no one has tried
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Shroomhunts] 1
#26342526 - 11/24/19 01:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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ya i know when i sit back to watch a movie i always think to myself boy i wish i had some dehydrated cubes to snack on lol my god man wtf are u smokin
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: jcm4620]
#26342539 - 11/24/19 01:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I personally would love this. It would also be a good way of easing people that are weary about psychadelics into it. I think it would be nice to just have a very small psilocybin content in it though so that you could add the mushrooms to a dish in a nutrional amount but wouldn't get you anymore than a light micro-dose buzz.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: jcm4620]
#26342545 - 11/24/19 01:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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jcm4620 said: ya i know when i sit back to watch a movie i always think to myself boy i wish i had some dehydrated cubes to snack on lol my god man wtf are u smokin
I mean, I think this when I see people slamming back Doritos, but I'm not gonna tell them they're out of their minds. People have taste.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: footpath]
#26342575 - 11/24/19 02:04 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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They may not appeal to everyone but people eat stranger things. Imagine going to the grocery store and seeing fresh psilocybe cubensis next to all the other mushrooms.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: footpath]
#26342577 - 11/24/19 02:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I love the taste of cooked cubes Why not just soak them in warm water then cook them?
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26342581 - 11/24/19 02:08 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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If we got even a handful of the top cultivators on this site onboard with this idea we could change the whole worlds perspective on these mushrooms. They are more than just a drug.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: cronicr]
#26342582 - 11/24/19 02:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said: I love the taste of cooked cubes Why not just soak them in warm water then cook them?
I want to be able to grow them and sell them without fear of getting assfucked in jail for it.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26342584 - 11/24/19 02:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shiitake are always gonna be better tasting fungus then dung lovers
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: cronicr]
#26342600 - 11/24/19 02:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Taste is an opinion everyone has different preferences, I'm sure if you had a business selling cubes half your customers would buy them just to try the mushrooms without the magic.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Shroomhunts] 1
#26342617 - 11/24/19 02:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Most the ppl I kno choke down shrooms like a 8yr old taking a prescription.
Taste is no bueno
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: cronicr]
#26342618 - 11/24/19 02:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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the same ppl that would buy these r the same wastes of space that buy meatless burgers n shit just cuz u take something and call it something else dont make it what it is. a man that thinks hes a woman is still a man a burger that has no meat is not a burger and a cube that has no psilocybin isnt a true cube need i say more
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26342626 - 11/24/19 02:27 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomhunts said: I'm sure if you had a business selling cubes half your customers would buy them just to try the mushrooms without the magic.
i doubt this
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Yeah let's just make cubes worth 7 bucks a lb, fucking genius plan.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: cronicr]
#26342687 - 11/24/19 02:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is the best shit I've recently heard. Well, it sounds like as good a goal as, dunno, building castles out of matchsticks or something. Personally I kinda like the taste of cubes, but I really wouldn't reach for them for a quick snack... besides, it ain't taste good without being blue.
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bodhisatta said: the good taste pathway is already broke
I don't think so. Any mushroom that is raw or dried will taste yucky, but there is nothing about cubes that makes them taste bad when prepared by a skilled chef.
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I don't think cubes would go over that well in cuisine except for the novelty.
Try frying some fresh ones in butter until they are golden brown on all sides, then add a little salt, MSG and pepper. Turn the heat down and add half and half, thicken with roux, add a little white wine and serve over pasta. People will tell you that they are some of the most delicious mushrooms they have ever tried.
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At the bare minimum it would be an effective way to introduce the masses to these mushrooms. I think it could put them on the fast track to nationwide decriminalization and in time legalization. If they do not contain drugs they are nothing more tha edible mushrooms and could be sold as such.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26342851 - 11/24/19 04:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well go find a strain with no psilocybin no beaocystin nerobaeocystin and no psilocin and clone the fuck out of it
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26342864 - 11/24/19 04:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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People said the same things about CBD pot back in the day. Why the fuck would you want buds that don't make you high? Now the people who spent years developing these strains are reaping what they sowed with massive farms we are talking hundreds of acres devoted to flower production. You would make way more money selling cubes if there is nothing making you keep you operations in the shadows. Obviously you couldn't charge out the ass for them like dealers do but you could produce as much as you want without fear of prosecution.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26342915 - 11/24/19 04:24 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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The problem is it's still just a mushroom in which from a looks stand point is outdone by things like shiitake. By all means though find that strain and go for it
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: cronicr]
#26342919 - 11/24/19 04:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cant wait to read about the first dea raid on faux cubensis
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: cronicr]
#26342927 - 11/24/19 04:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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It cant be that far out there I mean anyone who has experience with mushrooms knows there are bunk shrooms we just gotta isolate the bunkest of the bunkers.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: mushboy] 1
#26342928 - 11/24/19 04:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wagyu dung cubensis
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26342933 - 11/24/19 04:30 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Selective breeding for bunk cubes would already be difficult but bunk doesn't mean completely free of potency. Even selection for weak ones may not not eventually yield ones with broken active production.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Shroomhunts]
#26343172 - 11/24/19 06:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomhunts said: Anyone ever purposefully breed and isolate a strain to contain no psilocybin? Unlike others I've met I really like the flavor and texture of dried cubes and was hoping to get a strain with no psychoactive effects so I can eat them as snacks.
I bought some a few years ago that was pretty close to what you are looking for. Complete and total waste of time and money.
Also, if that was you selling them, can I have my money back?
If you end up with the lab equipment and know-how to breed for crazy things, go for a strain with more psilocybin, that will eat any competing bacteria/mold/yeast and grow twice as fast. A strain that requires zero aseptic technique that you can't fuck up even if you were inoculating in open-air and misting with sewer water.
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Re: Cubes with no psilocybin? [Re: Growtech]
#26343325 - 11/24/19 07:53 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just do the opposite of good storage. Leave the shrooms out in open air, then dehydrate so they don’t mold. Once they have reached 0 potency you make a clone.
Bam. You’re welcome
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I hope you don’t mean dried Cubs, now frescoes I could understand
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