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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26348190 - 11/27/19 09:26 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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If you do the prep right and keep the tub dialed in then you can get a flush without having to add additional water. You will get better at knowing what is needed.

@SpunkyMonkey I can basically guarantee you that it will not stall. That tub looks good, not super dry. As long as it doesnt get super cold you could go into a coma and wake up to shrooms.




I just saw this post. I agree with you for the most part. That statement is probably true when (big when)  your tub is dialed in with not too much or too little fae.

Since I didnt follow protocol with my fae holes, I'm worried it's not dialed in properly. 

So going of pastywhyte's tubs, a normal 56-60 qt mono has 7.5" of total air holes. 5" of those are on the bottom (1.25" x2 per side) and 2.5" towards the top..

I've got a total of 2.5" on the bottom and 3" worth on top using a 3/8" drill bit. So not quite as much airflow which is why I had cracked the lid for a few days...

Also I should mention that my tub is only 30qts...so i didnt think it needed the whole 7.5" of air holes...

Thoughts?




No matter what tek you follow, your tuba can’t be “dialed in” on the first try. That’s why it’s called dialing them in, as in tweaking the configurations.
This is mostly because of varying RH, temperature, altitude, etc.

It takes a few runs to figure out the perfect configuration.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26348217 - 11/27/19 09:49 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Perfect timing for this picture. This is what will happen to the tiny knots next.



You can see there’s the little dots all over which are knots and then those couple in a vertical line near the middle  have started swelling up.




Thank you! I'll be looking out for that. I feel like you have way more of the sub knotting up then I do...I wonder If I'm just knot seeing it hehe

How far into spawning that tub is that pic?


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26348222 - 11/27/19 09:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Well I did an unmodified tub, so my lid is cracked to allow FAE. So again, what things do you notice that tell you your substrate is dry? What signs did you see that led you to start misting? I want to make sure I am doing the correct thing also and to be prepared.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26348227 - 11/27/19 09:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I think about ten days but everything I’ve done with this strain has been super fast, I just put it into fruiting two days ago.

Yours is taking a long time what kind is it?? I remember when you first posted I had a shoebox a couple days ahead of you and it’ll be ready to harvest tonight or tomorrow morning


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: DNA_Trip]
    #26348232 - 11/27/19 10:01 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Well I did an unmodified tub, so my lid is cracked to allow FAE. So again, what things do you notice that tell you your substrate is dry? What signs did you see that led you to start misting? I want to make sure I am doing the correct thing also and to be prepared.




If your doing the unmodified tub then you will definitely be good, for sure until your sub is colonized. Once your sub is 100% pay close attention to the surface of the mycelium you want it to have small beads of water (not pooling) all over. Watch for it you'll see it...give it a few pumps from a couple feet away, or a real gentle mist and look at the surface with a flash light and look for the beads of water after each pump..and give it a pump with the mister until you see those beads...then dont do it again until you see those beads have evaporated...

shouldnt be more than once or twice a day max with only a few (2-5) pumps at a time...

Thata what I did anyways


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26348235 - 11/27/19 10:04 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I think about ten days but everything I’ve done with this strain has been super fast, I just put it into fruiting two days ago.

Yours is taking a long time what kind is it?? I remember when you first posted I had a shoebox a couple days ahead of you and it’ll be ready to harvest tonight or tomorrow morning




Its PF classic at about 2 qts spawn to 5 qts bulk... ya bro I dont know I think mine is definitely slower to pin then yours...

I also introduced fae and light right from the get go...

Hopefully it's a strain thing and not a result of bacterial spawn...

My jars seemed fine...after the first shake @30% they were 100% in less than a week. When I opened them before spawning them they smelt great!

I even took a kernel out of each jar and put it on agar just to make sure nothing was off and it looked awesome, no indication of contamination on the plate...but u never know I guess...


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26348341 - 11/27/19 11:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You know what I seem to remember reading recently that pf classic sucks in bulk because it was done only on cakes for so long it evolved the strain. Who knows though. I’m super curious now how this turns out.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26348371 - 11/27/19 11:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I see Pins in 10-18 days with 4 qts spawn to 7-8qts sub, usually around 14.


Patience bro bro, patience.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26348384 - 11/27/19 11:44 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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You know what I seem to remember reading recently that pf classic sucks in bulk because it was done only on cakes for so long it evolved the strain. Who knows though. I’m super curious now how this turns out.




Ya I heard that too but om calling bs on that on account of a cube is a cube and also I saw a dude on here and his best grow to date was a mono with classic.. forgot what his numbers were but definitely over 100% BE and had a solid fucking canopy.

I hope I'm right though because I'd be super bummed if I put three months into this strain for something that cant even grow...

I'm seriously dying to trip too. I have had it in my head that I'm gonna have a solid AF trip before xmas this year, and I'll be soo disappointed if that doesn't happen.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26349279 - 11/27/19 06:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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You know what I seem to remember reading recently that pf classic sucks in bulk because it was done only on cakes for so long it evolved the strain. Who knows though. I’m super curious now how this turns out.




Just got home to about 15 tiny sidepins today! Nothing ontop, which kinda sucks but as my first bulk grow in excited to get anything...hopefully I dont have to fruit it like you did with that one shoebox..

Better believe I'll keep you posted!


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26349397 - 11/27/19 07:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hell yeah man it’s about time. Even if it’s tons of side pins at least it should be a decent amount. When you first posted I put up a pic of my shoebox that was a few days older than yours, here it is now probably harvest in the morning. I think it’s the first one where I got everything close to dialed in.



My stuffs getting out of control I’ve got 11 boxes in various stages of fruiting and 3 pf jars to birth in the morning.

Throw up some pictures of your pins tomorrow!


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26350552 - 11/28/19 12:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Hell yeah man it’s about time. Even if it’s tons of side pins at least it should be a decent amount. When you first posted I put up a pic of my shoebox that was a few days older than yours, here it is now probably harvest in the morning. I think it’s the first one where I got everything close to dialed in.



My stuffs getting out of control I’ve got 11 boxes in various stages of fruiting and 3 pf jars to birth in the morning.

Throw up some pictures of your pins tomorrow!




Here’s some of those pins, not too impressive but hey I got something..


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26350580 - 11/28/19 01:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome man they look good and I’m sure there’ll be three times as many by tomorrow. Looks like only a few on the side I think it’s safe to say you’ve avoided my side pin fiasco.

What temps has it been during fruiting?? I can’t believe how long it took for your pins, I’m not sure how much cooler temps slow things down but mine get mid 60s at night and so far only Burma seemed to not like it.

Hopefully it’ll be like they say...the slower it grows the more potent.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26350605 - 11/28/19 01:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Awesome man they look good and I’m sure there’ll be three times as many by tomorrow. Looks like only a few on the side I think it’s safe to say you’ve avoided my side pin fiasco.

What temps has it been during fruiting?? I can’t believe how long it took for your pins, I’m not sure how much cooler temps slow things down but mine get mid 60s at night and so far only Burma seemed to not like it.

Hopefully it’ll be like they say...the slower it grows the more potent.




Thanks man, at this point I could care less where my pins are as long as I get them and they mature...I'll work harder on
perfecting my surface conditions with my next tub, and towards that overhead canopy.

This grow is basically as if I I innoculaated with ms, because I was only 2 transfers into my agar before I used it, so plenty of variety I'm sure..my main concern was eliminating bacteria in my spawn, which I still didnt do 🙄


My temps are in the mid 70's though.. I've got no control over the heat in my building, and it stays pretty warm this time of year so only thing I can do is crack a window which would result in wild temp fluctuations...

And so I shouldnt be worried I only have 10 or so pins on top right now? Maybe 20 on the sides?


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26350666 - 11/28/19 02:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

They’ll keep popping up over the next day or two ime. I just now birthed 2 pf cakes that I knocked up five days after my very first round of spawn jars. So dumb how long it takes lol. I’ll have one shoebox that’ll be putting out a fourth flush at the same time these jars put out their first. I think it’s been 36 days since I made the jars. I did only get two inoculation points instead of four so maybe that’s why but still.

At least you’re through the worst part! Now you know you made it it’s just a question of how much. I’m still shocked how fast pins grow. I’ll usually take pictures each morning and sometimes I have to double check I didn’t miss a day...like no way is this the same box as 20 hours ago haha.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26350681 - 11/28/19 02:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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They’ll keep popping up over the next day or two ime. I just now birthed 2 pf cakes that I knocked up five days after my very first round of spawn jars. So dumb how long it takes lol. I’ll have one shoebox that’ll be putting out a fourth flush at the same time these jars put out their first. I think it’s been 36 days since I made the jars. I did only get two inoculation points instead of four so maybe that’s why but still.

At least you’re through the worst part! Now you know you made it it’s just a question of how much. I’m still shocked how fast pins grow. I’ll usually take pictures each morning and sometimes I have to double check I didn’t miss a day...like no way is this the same box as 20 hours ago haha.





I did the same thing when I just decided to try grains ... I’ve heard so many stories about how people getting bad spawn and everything so I decided to make 24 brf jars and nock them up just Incase I failed my grains... now I got a bunch of jars that I dunno what to do with :shrug:

I shredded half of them to bulk in a shoebox (aluminum  roasting tray) and half of them have been sitting there colonized for a couple weeks.

Have you ever shredded them to bulk before? What is your typical yield per cake ?


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