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feldman114 said: Can you take a closeup? Flash on, light off
Yup one sec
First one is with a light over the top the other is with flash 
Here's one of the agar dishes with a kernel:

Heh, yeah that’s not trich, but it also looks nothing like that first pic. Lighting is everything. Sorry not sorry for the false alarm. At least now you got that sweet relief....srsly, ma bad mayne.
Knots are all those white dots. If you’re not sure whether it’s a knot or just a white dot, it’s a knot.
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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: AyePlus]
#26346471 - 11/26/19 10:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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AyePlus said: Those stories are BS
If your spawn is clean you can fruit it next to one thats covered in green. Mushrooms have an immune system and when theyre healthy they can fight it off. After first flush the vigor is depleted and trich can take hold more easily. But if it happens pre first flush it was the spawn 99% of the time.
This is good to know! I have two aluminum trays of two different varieties one with my first agar to grain spawn ever and the other with shredded brf cakes, just incase I failed at the grains.
Are you saying even if that grain tray, which is right next to my brf tray in the same tub, tams out, the other brf tray should be fine?
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Yes. It will increase you chances of failure in the future, but shouldnt compromise anything already in fruiting, assuming your spawn was healthy.
Although it is generally a good practice to isolate any contamination you find asap and remove from your growing area, its not the end of the world if you don’t.
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I’ve got all my agar supplies but then I had my shoeboxes go off the rails so I had to turn the tub that was gonna be my SAB into a humidity chamber. I should really just get another one it’s like 8 bucks.
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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
#26346765 - 11/26/19 01:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I’ve got all my agar supplies but then I had my shoeboxes go off the rails so I had to turn the tub that was gonna be my SAB into a humidity chamber. I should really just get another one it’s like 8 bucks.
Ya bro I definitely would just get one if you got the space...that's my problem I only got enough room for a couple tubs and my SAB...
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Yeah I pretty much have unlimited space right now but I’m trying not to turn my house into a fungus factory which is where I’m headed. I just couldn’t find any mushrooms so I figured I’d have to do it myself and try to get s few doses saved....next thing I know I have piles of shoeboxes and amazon packages with random growing/Agar shit coming everyday and I’m spending all day reading about mushroom genetics.
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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
#26346817 - 11/26/19 01:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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One of us, one of us, one of us etc etc..
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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
#26346962 - 11/26/19 03:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Yeah I pretty much have unlimited space right now but I’m trying not to turn my house into a fungus factory which is where I’m headed. I just couldn’t find any mushrooms so I figured I’d have to do it myself and try to get s few doses saved....next thing I know I have piles of shoeboxes and amazon packages with random growing/Agar shit coming everyday and I’m spending all day reading about mushroom genetics.
Ya this hobby is extremely consuming/addictive. If I'm not messing with some mycelium or grains, I'll be thinking about it. My wife's constantly asking me what's wrong because I'm spacing out thinking about how my transfers are taking or about my pins that are on their way...
Its extremely stressful at the same time though. The thought of losing everything is a hard one to overcome.
That's why I'm doing this only very short term. I just want a stockpile to fall back on for whenever i need get my shit upstairs straight.
I've struggle a form Autism and mushrooms have helped me enormously in the past many of the more difficult symptoms, but I've never had a constant supply to be able to medicate on a regular basis or even micro dose. Which if I can get a couple ozs off this round of spawn, I'll be trying.
So this journey is a very personal one for me, in hopes of I'll find some much needed relief from the fungus.
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I’m starting to get a little discouraged here, maybe impatient is a better word. Maybe a good combination of The two...
I haven’t noticed any change in the “knots” on my subs surface and sides, that is if I’m even looking at the right thing. From the pictures I was looking at I thought they would of started to elongate a bit, that thing they do right before they turn to pins.
I am really worried. It’s been 15 days since I spawned this tub.
Sorry for the constant annoying posts, but I’m just so new to this. Once I know what I’m doing I’ll be sure to pay it forward to the next worried mycologist.
I also apologize for the constant changing/expanding thread. I figured it’d be more appropriate then making a bunch of threads about different issues with this same tub. Just let me know if that’s not the case.
Heres the tub as of this morning:
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Dont be worried.
Looks sexy to me. Just alot to colonize there. Its not gonna pin until it colonizes everything.
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The Mycologist said: Dont be worried.
Looks sexy to me. Just alot to colonize there. Its not gonna pin until it colonizes everything.
Ok I will try to be patient. At what point should be worried about it being considered to have stalled?
How many more days until I can annoy you guys with another update and picture 🤣?
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I’m worried about the same thing that’s been happening to you, granted I only spawned mine 6 days ago. I’m worried about if my pinning is going to occur, if things are going to work, etc. Right now it’s on day 6 and still colonizing it seems. I already introduced FAE after the first couple of days and have been on a 12/12 light dark cycle since spawning. I’m in the same boat as you, I don’t know what to look for, what’s next, etc. I can only go on what other people tell me which is always “won’t be long now”. One thing I really am concerned with is when do I need to start misting with water? I’ve heard that you shouldn’t have to worry about watering at all during colonization and only until after the first flush. Is this true? How can your tell if your sub is dry or needs watering? That’s what I’m worried about at the moment. How were you able to tell if your substrate needed watering?
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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: DNA_Trip]
#26348058 - 11/27/19 07:14 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you do the prep right and keep the tub dialed in then you can get a flush without having to add additional water. You will get better at knowing what is needed.
@SpunkyMonkey I can basically guarantee you that it will not stall. That tub looks good, not super dry. As long as it doesnt get super cold you could go into a coma and wake up to shrooms.
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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: DNA_Trip]
#26348065 - 11/27/19 07:19 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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DNA_Trip said: I’m worried about the same thing that’s been happening to you, granted I only spawned mine 6 days ago. I’m worried about if my pinning is going to occur, if things are going to work, etc. Right now it’s on day 6 and still colonizing it seems. I already introduced FAE after the first couple of days and have been on a 12/12 light dark cycle since spawning. I’m in the same boat as you, I don’t know what to look for, what’s next, etc. I can only go on what other people tell me which is always “won’t be long now”. One thing I really am concerned with is when do I need to start misting with water? I’ve heard that you shouldn’t have to worry about watering at all during colonization and only until after the first flush. Is this true? How can your tell if your sub is dry or needs watering? That’s what I’m worried about at the moment. How were you able to tell if your substrate needed watering?

Yup, literally exactly where I am. I've got another bigger tub going right now too, that has 2 shoeboxes in it.
I have the same fears though; misting, fae, etc... I didn't worry about misting at all while colonizing and only sprayed a couple times since it has been colonized until there are tiny beads of water on the surface..
The big tub I have going is the exact same age as yours. I'll post a pic of mine in s sec!
In the close up you can see there are water beads where the mycelium is coming through, which I think is a good sign!

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But how do I know for myself when mine needs watering? How do I tell that my substrate is dry and needs to be misted? So you ended up having to after colonization? I thought misting and watering is only needed after the first flush?
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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: DNA_Trip]
#26348097 - 11/27/19 07:58 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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You mist when the top layer of coir turns light-brown. A dry sub will noticeably shrink. You’ll know
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Too wet is bad too. Gotta find the balance.
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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: DNA_Trip]
#26348128 - 11/27/19 08:30 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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DNA_Trip said: But how do I know for myself when mine needs watering? How do I tell that my substrate is dry and needs to be misted? So you ended up having to after colonization? I thought misting and watering is only needed after the first flush?
I misted mine because I had the lid cracked because I didnt have enough holes drilled and it was obviously dry on top.
If you followed the regular monotub hole size and placement (6× 1.25") holes you should probably be fine, feature until your pins start coming in, I would think.. Unless you're opening it alot or have a fan blowing at it...
I was dumb and sisnt follow instructions on how to design the tub so my fae has been "off" to say the least... and the high FAE from the cracked lid dried mine out on the surface.
Theres a thread dedicated to surface conditions, maybe someone could link you to it...its a great read.
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The Mycologist said: If you do the prep right and keep the tub dialed in then you can get a flush without having to add additional water. You will get better at knowing what is needed.
@SpunkyMonkey I can basically guarantee you that it will not stall. That tub looks good, not super dry. As long as it doesnt get super cold you could go into a coma and wake up to shrooms.
I just saw this post. I agree with you for the most part. That statement is probably true when (big when) your tub is dialed in with not too much or too little fae.
Since I didnt follow protocol with my fae holes, I'm worried it's not dialed in properly.
So going of pastywhyte's tubs, a normal 56-60 qt mono has 7.5" of total air holes. 5" of those are on the bottom (1.25" x2 per side) and 2.5" towards the top..
I've got a total of 2.5" on the bottom and 3" worth on top using a 3/8" drill bit. So not quite as much airflow which is why I had cracked the lid for a few days...
Also I should mention that my tub is only 30qts...so i didnt think it needed the whole 7.5" of air holes...
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Perfect timing for this picture. This is what will happen to the tiny knots next.

You can see there’s the little dots all over which are knots and then those couple in a vertical line near the middle have started swelling up.
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