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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: feldman114]
    #26344339 - 11/25/19 10:34 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

If you keep your surface conditions prime then you can still get a good flush up top, that is a sign you are days away from fruits though! Exciting!!!

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053

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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: AyePlus]
    #26344351 - 11/25/19 10:42 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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If you keep your surface conditions prime then you can still get a good flush up top, that is a sign you are days away from fruits though! Exciting!!!

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053

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Dude I cant even tell you how pumped I am! Feel like a little kid again.

That's what I've been following for a reference for misting. I work from home so I can pay close attention to it.

Been checking it 3-4 times a day fanning it once and misting when no beads are present on the surface...hopefully that helps get some decent pins uptop.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26344362 - 11/25/19 10:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Still flushed decent, my surface was so bad I just dumped the sub out upside down and let it go like a cake. Turned out it was contaminated a bunch of white mold or trich popped up a couple days after harvest.



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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26344392 - 11/25/19 11:01 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Still flushed decent, my surface was so bad I just dumped the sub out upside down and let it go like a cake. Turned out it was contaminated a bunch of white mold or trich popped up a couple days after harvest.






Wow you weren't kidding about 90% side pins..I donr have an extra tub to fruit mine like that tho so hopefully mine has a better surface pinset...


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26344454 - 11/25/19 11:30 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

No need to fan ever, the more its opened the more it will need to be misted. Ideally bulk subs are set n forget, just make them then harvest. Learn what you can from this tub to make your next one better, and so on and on etc.. you’ll be posting canopies in no time.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: AyePlus]
    #26344715 - 11/25/19 01:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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No need to fan ever, the more its opened the more it will need to be misted. Ideally bulk subs are set n forget, just make them then harvest. Learn what you can from this tub to make your next one better, and so on and on etc.. you’ll be posting canopies in no time.




Ya I know but I was dumb and didnt follow a proven tub design tek so I was a little worried about it getting enough FAE (and I was told it was suffocating by a TC) with the holes I had drilled so rather than drilling more holes I thought I'd just crack the lid...


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26346112 - 11/26/19 06:15 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

This picture is from today, I marked a spot in my tub that I’m worried about. The mycelium looks really matted. Are these the knots everyone is talking about? Or are they something else?

Could someone who wouldn’t mind taking a few mins to edit my pic, highlight a couple knots for me so I know what to watch out for? Big thanks in advance!

Also about how long after knotting up, do pins usually form?



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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26346205 - 11/26/19 07:35 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Aw man...might be the lighting, but that looks just like trich, just before the green comes in😞


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: feldman114]
    #26346211 - 11/26/19 07:41 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Aw man...might be the lighting, but that looks just like trich, just before the green comes in😞





No way! Wow that is seriously really depressing! Can someone confirm this?


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26346214 - 11/26/19 07:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Can you take a closeup? Flash on, light off


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26346217 - 11/26/19 07:45 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

That just seems weird tho cus I took kernels out of each jar of spawn that I used and put them on agar and they loom great..


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: feldman114]
    #26346219 - 11/26/19 07:45 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Can you take a closeup? Flash on, light off




Yup one sec

First one is with a light over the top the other is with flash

Here's one of the agar dishes with a kernel:




Edited by SpunkyMonkey88 (11/26/19 08:05 AM)


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26346297 - 11/26/19 08:46 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It’s not trich but I thought the same thing at first the shadows are weird. Those are knots but I think the surface looks really dry. I don’t have a great record with surface conditions so I’d wait for more input.

IME pins turn up like four days after knots. Although my last shoebox sat foreeever knotted up everywhere before pins came. Prob like 7-8 days.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26346303 - 11/26/19 08:49 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I just got trich bad for the first time and it was super bright white and a big solid patch that popped up way faster than myc can grow. Like it was fine then eight hours later there was four or five square inches of it.

I wish I’d taken a picture. I wasn’t sure exactly what contam it was so I kept it in the garage to see and by the next day the edges were going green so I chucked it far far away.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26346308 - 11/26/19 08:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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It’s not trich but I thought the same thing at first the shadows are weird. Those are knots but I think the surface looks really dry. I don’t have a great record with surface conditions so I’d wait for more input.

IME pins turn up like four days after knots. Although my last shoebox sat foreeever knotted up everywhere before pins came. Prob like 7-8 days.




Hell ya man! I really hope you're right! I put a lot of work into that so hearing that was extremely disheartening, to say the least...

I am worried about the moisture level too, my sub has shrunk about 1/4 inch on all sides...so hopefully someone with some experience will help with that?

Also any other opinions/confirmations about that suspect patch? No offense aka I trust ya but I'd feel better with some more confirmation..


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26346311 - 11/26/19 08:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I dont think its trich either.

Shrinking is normal.

Couple days now


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26346317 - 11/26/19 08:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I just got trich bad for the first time and it was super bright white and a big solid patch that popped up way faster than myc can grow. Like it was fine then eight hours later there was four or five square inches of it.

I wish I’d taken a picture. I wasn’t sure exactly what contam it was so I kept it in the garage to see and by the next day the edges were going green so I chucked it far far away.




Ya this isn't behaving like that at all. It was always a bit ahead of the rest of the sub and slowly grew to this density over the last 3 days.. not nearly as aggressive as you just described..


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26346330 - 11/26/19 09:05 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I totally get it I’m just learning myself, I was sort of excited when I saw the contamination patch since I had gotten a decent harvest already and it was my first definite contamination. Haha just one more thing to sit and watch. But now I know what it looks like.

It was impossible to miss at least on mine. It was like somebody spread shaving cream on my sub or something super bright and kind of bubbly looking and a solid patch you couldn’t see the sub at all.

I could see smaller outbreaks being hard to see though until the green kicks in.


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26346347 - 11/26/19 09:09 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I totally get it I’m just learning myself, I was sort of excited when I saw the contamination patch since I had gotten a decent harvest already and it was my first definite contamination. Haha just one more thing to sit and watch. But now I know what it looks like.

It was impossible to miss at least on mine. It was like somebody spread shaving cream on my sub or something super bright and kind of bubbly looking and a solid patch you couldn’t see the sub at all.

I could see smaller outbreaks being hard to see though until the green kicks in.




Ya thats too bad you didnt get a picture of it. I think I'd rather learn from others experience when it comes to trich lol.

I've just heard so many stories about whole grow rooms being contaminated with the spores, to the point where each and every tub from there on out doesn't even get a flush in before it goes green..

Are you playing with agar yet?


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Re: Am I getting close? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26346397 - 11/26/19 09:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Those stories are BS

If your spawn is clean you can fruit it next to one thats covered in green. Mushrooms have an immune system and when theyre healthy they can fight it off. After first flush the vigor is depleted and trich can take hold more easily. But if it happens pre first flush it was the spawn 99% of the time.


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