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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: Psilo_citizen]
#26337768 - 11/22/19 09:29 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Heres a link discussing the same shit Fruiting At Spawn
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: SFS96]
#26337785 - 11/22/19 09:37 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilo_citizen said: I don't need to show you results. This is common sense based upon an understanding of the fundamentals at play. In order to pin, the mycelium has the same basic requirements regardless of the chamber that it's in. Believe me when I say the myc doesn't give a shit about your hole layout or lack thereof as long as it's getting adequate fresh air and not losing it's moisture without it being replaced.
Yes, fruiting at spawn is a relatively new concept. At one point, exposing cube myc to light at all stages of growth was a new concept as well.
The reason the shroomery will always be better than a book is because it's dynamic; as the information available to us changes, so does the approach. Whether or not it's mentioned in the original write up of a tek is immaterial.[/quote
Lmao, myc dont care about the conditions its in. Guess I'm just full of shit.
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: BigSurMoon] 1
#26337801 - 11/22/19 09:46 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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seems every one is trying to reinvent the wheel and not understanding the basics of how and why shit is done
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26337806 - 11/22/19 09:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Any TCs want to chime in? I bet it’s about 50:50 who fruit at spawn and those who wait
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: SFS96]
#26337807 - 11/22/19 09:48 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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i am a tc bro
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: tripdawg420]
#26337808 - 11/22/19 09:49 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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This thread started making my eyes bleed halfway through it so I skipped the second half. If your spawn is healthy and coir properly hydrated all you gotta do is put it in a tub and keep the lid on until you harvest.
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: tripdawg420]
#26337809 - 11/22/19 09:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why’s it not showing below your avatar?
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: tripdawg420]
#26337810 - 11/22/19 09:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said: seems every one is trying to reinvent the wheel and not understanding the basics of how and why shit is done
Oh I understand, and I have a gallery of tub pics to prove it. Saying I'm wrong, outdated, misinformed, pisses me off. I apologize,
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: BigSurMoon] 1
#26337815 - 11/22/19 09:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Telling people subs need more CO2 makes people question you.
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: Failboat] 1
#26337821 - 11/22/19 09:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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BigSurMoon said:
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Psilo_citizen said: I don't need to show you results. This is common sense based upon an understanding of the fundamentals at play. In order to pin, the mycelium has the same basic requirements regardless of the chamber that it's in. Believe me when I say the myc doesn't give a shit about your hole layout or lack thereof as long as it's getting adequate fresh air and not losing it's moisture without it being replaced.
Yes, fruiting at spawn is a relatively new concept. At one point, exposing cube myc to light at all stages of growth was a new concept as well.
The reason the shroomery will always be better than a book is because it's dynamic; as the information available to us changes, so does the approach. Whether or not it's mentioned in the original write up of a tek is immaterial.
Lmao, myc dont care about the conditions its in. Guess I'm just full of shit.
I didn't say they dont care about the conditions their in, I said they don't care about the hole layout as to how they get there.
Edit- I should elaborate as you'll no doubt take this out of context as well. Provided proper nutrition(from spawn), airflow(to allow for fluctuating humidity which encourages evaporation and provides fresh air which all aerobic organisms need), light(not entirely necessary, but beneficial), temps, and moisture are given, your mushies will grow. They don't care what brand of tub your using or where you've put holes AS LONG AS THEY STILL GET THE PROPER CONDITIONS.
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tripdawg420 said: seems every one is trying to reinvent the wheel and not understanding the basics of how and why shit is done
Oh I understand, and I have a gallery of tub pics to prove it. Saying I'm wrong, outdated, misinformed, pisses me off. I apologize,
You telling other people they're wrong for following a standard practice is wrong. You are telling them that because you are misinformed. You are misinformed because you are relying on outdated information.
No need for apologies though😘Quote:
Quirkmeister92 said: Telling people subs need more CO2 makes people question you.
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: SFS96] 1
#26337824 - 11/22/19 09:58 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: This thread started making my eyes bleed halfway through it so I skipped the second half. If your spawn is healthy and coir properly hydrated all you gotta do is put it in a tub and keep the lid on until you harvest.
lil more it itQuote:
SFS96 said: Why’s it not showing below your avatar?
trust me i woulda had one years ago
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: Psilo_citizen]
#26337874 - 11/22/19 10:20 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilo_citizen said:
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BigSurMoon said:
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Psilo_citizen said: I don't need to show you results. This is common sense based upon an understanding of the fundamentals at play. In order to pin, the mycelium has the same basic requirements regardless of the chamber that it's in. Believe me when I say the myc doesn't give a shit about your hole layout or lack thereof as long as it's getting adequate fresh air and not losing it's moisture without it being replaced.
Yes, fruiting at spawn is a relatively new concept. At one point, exposing cube myc to light at all stages of growth was a new concept as well.
The reason the shroomery will always be better than a book is because it's dynamic; as the information available to us changes, so does the approach. Whether or not it's mentioned in the original write up of a tek is immaterial.
Lmao, myc dont care about the conditions its in. Guess I'm just full of shit.
I didn't say they dont care about the conditions their in, I said they don't care about the hole layout as to how they get here.Quote:
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tripdawg420 said: seems every one is trying to reinvent the wheel and not understanding the basics of how and why shit is done
Oh I understand, and I have a gallery of tub pics to prove it. Saying I'm wrong, outdated, misinformed, pisses me off. I apologize,
You telling other people they're wrong for following a standard practice is wrong. You are telling them that because you are misinformed. You are misinformed because you are relying on outdated information.
No need for apologies though😘Quote:
Quirkmeister92 said: Telling people subs need more CO2 makes people question you.
YESSSSSS
Hole layout is going to effect the conditions in the tub, of course the myc doesnt care how they got there, but it will care where you put them. I never said anyone was wrong, and I'm sure as hell not apologizing to you. Half of what you've said dont make sense.You keep saying I dont know what I'm talking about. Didnt realize that I could throw shit in a box and it would just grow all on its own. Guess i have it all wrong, Quirk, I didnt mean elavate the co2, I meant that colonizing myc needs more than when its fully colonized, hence why you increase far to induce pinning. I'm gonna start a thread to discuss this there...
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: BigSurMoon] 1
#26337888 - 11/22/19 10:26 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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im misinformed and outdated
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: BigSurMoon] 1
#26337890 - 11/22/19 10:28 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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BigSurMoon said:
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Psilo_citizen said:
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BigSurMoon said:
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Psilo_citizen said: I don't need to show you results. This is common sense based upon an understanding of the fundamentals at play. In order to pin, the mycelium has the same basic requirements regardless of the chamber that it's in. Believe me when I say the myc doesn't give a shit about your hole layout or lack thereof as long as it's getting adequate fresh air and not losing it's moisture without it being replaced.
Yes, fruiting at spawn is a relatively new concept. At one point, exposing cube myc to light at all stages of growth was a new concept as well.
The reason the shroomery will always be better than a book is because it's dynamic; as the information available to us changes, so does the approach. Whether or not it's mentioned in the original write up of a tek is immaterial.
Lmao, myc dont care about the conditions its in. Guess I'm just full of shit.
I didn't say they dont care about the conditions their in, I said they don't care about the hole layout as to how they get here.Quote:
BigSurMoon said:
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tripdawg420 said: seems every one is trying to reinvent the wheel and not understanding the basics of how and why shit is done
Oh I understand, and I have a gallery of tub pics to prove it. Saying I'm wrong, outdated, misinformed, pisses me off. I apologize,
You telling other people they're wrong for following a standard practice is wrong. You are telling them that because you are misinformed. You are misinformed because you are relying on outdated information.
No need for apologies though😘Quote:
Quirkmeister92 said: Telling people subs need more CO2 makes people question you.
YESSSSSS
Hole layout is going to effect the conditions in the tub, of course the myc doesnt care how they got there, but it will care where you put them. I never said anyone was wrong, and I'm sure as hell not apologizing to you. Half of what you've said dont make sense.You keep saying I dont know what I'm talking about. Didnt realize that I could throw shit in a box and it would just grow all on its own. Guess i have it all wrong, Quirk, I didnt mean elavate the co2, I meant that colonizing myc needs more than when its fully colonized, hence why you increase far to induce pinning.
Bruhhhhh.... tubs are dialed in to allow for automation; it allows the tub to do all the heavy lifting without much need for upkeep from us. Obviously some setups are going to work better than others. Im not suggesting that hole placement plays no roll in a tub being dialed in; I'm saying that the myc has zero concept of what type of chamber it's in and that regardless of where holes are placed, or whether or not there even are holes, it can be compensated for.
You heavily implied if not outright stated that fruiting at spawn was not an appropriate approach for anything but unmodified tubs; again, that is outright false.
What have I said that didn't make sense?
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: Psilo_citizen] 1
#26338304 - 11/22/19 02:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26339110 - 11/22/19 09:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said: seems every one is trying to reinvent the wheel and not understanding the basics of how and why shit is done
Oh I understand, and I have a gallery of tub pics to prove it. Saying I'm wrong, outdated, misinformed, pisses me off. I apologize,
You are wrong though. That doesn’t make me right, but your original statement of “6 hole monotubs need a colonization period” is fundamentally incorrect and is influenced by outdated practices.
You don’t have to differentiate between colonization and fruiting for ANY monotub. You just have to make sure it has air and water and the myc will do what it wants. Taping up holes (with pourous micropore tape) will not change anything besides maybe your need to mist..
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: jbgtaa]
#26339476 - 11/23/19 04:28 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its not that outdated, not like some of the other misconceptions. Maybe its been common practice since you have been here, people still do it, If you say its outdated, misinformation, then it must be. Here some results, using my outdated, wrong way of growing. Lets see what you got.

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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26339544 - 11/23/19 06:31 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sgfc drys out quicker. Monos hold it in better, I’d rather open things up at least as possible and personally that can only be easily achieved with an unnmodded tub. At most , cracking the lid enough is what needs to be adjusted slightly with a wedge just to raise the lid high enough
It’s not that it’s wrong, if you can produce a flush, something is being done right.
I like a simple approach almost lazy in a way
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: Shroomerquest]
#26339649 - 11/23/19 08:25 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomerquest said: Sgfc drys out quicker. Monos hold it in better, I’d rather open things up at least as possible and personally that can only be easily achieved with an unnmodded tub. At most , cracking the lid enough is what needs to be adjusted slightly with a wedge just to raise the lid high enough
It’s not that it’s wrong, if you can produce a flush, something is being done right.
I like a simple approach almost lazy in a way
Its not a very labor intensive method of growing. Pull tape when fully colonized. Thats it. To each is his own really.
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Re: Is it time to induce food in conditions for my monotub? [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26339662 - 11/23/19 08:36 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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True, if it works it works, simple.
Wether one way is better than another probably boils down to individuality of each persons environment or time available for maintenance
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