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Offlineoceanrhythm
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help with identification please
    #26339350 - 11/22/19 11:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Please let me know if you can id these. Found them growing in the grass in my back yard.  I live in Hawaii.  I'm think they are Panaeolus cyanescens or Panaeolus cambodginiensis. They stain blue to black, have black spore prints, conical, adenexed gills that start of brown and then turn black. They have a darker brown spot on top and a brown rim.  They stay dry even after rain.  I'll attach some pictures. 









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Re: help with identification please [Re: oceanrhythm]
    #26339354 - 11/22/19 11:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Panaeolus foenisecii or cinctulus maybe. Pics of spore print?


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Re: help with identification please [Re: oceanrhythm]
    #26339356 - 11/22/19 11:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting. Definitely an active panaeolus sp, you can see the distinct blueing. Probably P. bisporus


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Re: help with identification please [Re: Moria841]
    #26339364 - 11/22/19 11:56 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

ah it just looked black to me, but you could be right.


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Re: help with identification please [Re: oceanrhythm]
    #26339452 - 11/23/19 03:34 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

These look interesting. I think they resemble some finds from Honolulu from earlier this year:

https://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observation_search?pattern=panaeolus+copelandia+hawaii

OP, perhaps you can check the same spot for young and fresh specimens?

And welcome to the Shroomery. :smile:


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Re: help with identification please [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26339661 - 11/23/19 08:35 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

OP, where in the world are you? Knowing your region is a critical piece of information...


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Re: help with identification please [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26339663 - 11/23/19 08:37 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Never mind... I see youre in Hawaii. Cool find


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Re: help with identification please [Re: Hamra]
    #26339803 - 11/23/19 10:00 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the replies.

Here is a spore print picture as requested. Very black.




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Re: help with identification please [Re: oceanrhythm]
    #26339814 - 11/23/19 10:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Anglerfish.  They look just like the pics in the link you posted. Must be a match. Thanks.


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Re: help with identification please [Re: oceanrhythm]
    #26339836 - 11/23/19 10:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Are you in Honolulu as well? It's not unlikely that they're the same species, but visible similarities aren't conclusive.

If you want to nail down a species, you should provide some dried material for a DNA sequence.
Doesn't need to be much, only a piece of a gill or something is enough if I'm not mistaken.
Alan is the guy to ask. Check the interview he posted today, it's very educational.


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