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    #26338901 - 11/22/19 07:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Found these two today while out looking for Cyans. It's got me stumped, but I'm sure a TI will know what they are.

Found growing on woodchips in a community garden in the PNW (Northwest Washington). The underside pic came out a bit blurry, I might need to go back and get a more clear pic of it.  Spores looked to be brownish-purple.





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Re: PNW ID Request [Re: shroomflow] * 1
    #26338906 - 11/22/19 07:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Look like stropharia ambigua to me.


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    #26338944 - 11/22/19 07:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Leratiomyces riparius


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    #26339011 - 11/22/19 08:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Shit was i off. Thats what i get for not looking closer. I can see the differences now.


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Re: PNW ID Request [Re: PNWMusicMaker]
    #26339051 - 11/22/19 08:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Leratiomyces riparius




Oh, wow. The purple-brown spore print was really throwing me off. Can I ask you what distinguishes it from Stropharia riparius? Are they the same thing?


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Shit was i off. Thats what i get for not looking closer. I can see the differences now.




No worries! If there's one mushroom I do know, it's Stropharia ambigua; it seems to grow all over my neighborhood. Sounds like this is a close cousin, however.


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    #26339240 - 11/22/19 10:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, Stropharia riparia was an earlier synonym


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    #26339304 - 11/22/19 10:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

They look pretty similar. Definitely some different features though. The veil on the cap margins seems to fade rapidly on these compared to ambigua amd the stem look different as well.


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Re: PNW ID Request [Re: PNWMusicMaker]
    #26339658 - 11/23/19 08:33 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Those lerotiomyces are super prevalent in the same habitats as cyans.... I dont remember them being nearly as common in the past. (I've been picking for over 30 yrs and these didnt used to be evrywhere)


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    #26340942 - 11/23/19 06:27 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Those lerotiomyces are super prevalent in the same habitats as cyans.... I dont remember them being nearly as common in the past. (I've been picking for over 30 yrs and these didnt used to be everywhere)




Interesting; after Duggstar made the ID, I did some more research, and it does seem to be that most sightings of this mushroom are in California, with Oregon, Washington, and Utah being more rare. Seems as though it's migrating North, possibly with shipments of firewood and mulch from California.

Thanks to Duggstar for the ID!


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Re: PNW ID Request [Re: shroomflow]
    #26343090 - 11/24/19 05:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Leratiomyces riparius




Oh, wow. The purple-brown spore print was really throwing me off. Can I ask you what distinguishes it from Stropharia riparius? Are they the same thing?



Yes, that's the same thing, just an older name. Just for your information, some sources call these Leratiomyces percevalii, but according to Alan Rockefeller that is a European species which looks identical, but the name has been incorrectly applied to the North American species. The ones that look like this in the PNW are most likely Leratiomyces riparius.


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