Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineJohnRainy
Stranger

Registered: 07/09/19
Posts: 1,244
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional
    #26338632 - 11/22/19 05:33 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineqman
Stranger

Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 34,927
Last seen: 2 hours, 54 minutes
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26338719 - 11/22/19 06:06 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Pure propaganda, don't fall victim to it.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJohnRainy
Stranger

Registered: 07/09/19
Posts: 1,244
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: qman]
    #26338772 - 11/22/19 06:26 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Oh that's a relief.  Its just propaganda.

Trump isn't blocking the appointment of new panelists so it can continue to function? 

Or he is but it doesn't matter.  The World Trade Organization has little effect on global trade.

What's the fake news here?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US Flag
Last seen: 6 months, 18 days
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26339070 - 11/22/19 08:46 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

JohnRainy said:
Oh that's a relief.  Its just propaganda.

Trump isn't blocking the appointment of new panelists so it can continue to function? 

Or he is but it doesn't matter.  The World Trade Organization has little effect on global trade.

What's the fake news here?



It depends on how you define dysfunctional.

This could impact enforcement of regulations, but it's not going to prevent trade from happening.


--------------------
I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJohnRainy
Stranger

Registered: 07/09/19
Posts: 1,244
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26339205 - 11/22/19 09:40 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I guess it does.  I haven't really heard much about this.

A lot of trade regulations are in place to protect domestic industries.  For example, dumping cheap products will cause local producers to not be able to sell their's and maybe they will go out of business.

America has accused Canada of doing that with softwood.

America's subsidized, highly advanced and efficient agriculture industry has put tons of modest, not-as-advanced farmers out of business all over the place. 

Bad things can happen when there are no regulations.  The tendency is for the large to get larger and the modest to disappear, which leads to huge imbalance.  With no enforcement, there are effectively no regulations.

I can't see anything good coming out of this.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
Stranger
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 03/16/05
Posts: 32,557
Loc: California, US Flag
Last seen: 6 months, 18 days
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26339226 - 11/22/19 10:00 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Of course I agree bad things can happen without regulations.  I was mainly saying that whether or not trade becomes "dysfunctional" depends on your definition of dysfunctional.


--------------------
I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemeltdowner
Total Noob
Male


Registered: 09/06/17
Posts: 1,457
Loc: New York City
Last seen: 8 months, 28 days
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26339332 - 11/22/19 11:21 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)



--------------------
I'm a Lightweight.  I like to eat like two caps at a time.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCornboySavage
Stranger
Registered: 10/22/19
Posts: 232
Last seen: 4 years, 3 months
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: meltdowner]
    #26339335 - 11/22/19 11:22 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

No globalism for me thanks.

Pls dont put george soros in my tap water

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJohnRainy
Stranger

Registered: 07/09/19
Posts: 1,244
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26339351 - 11/22/19 11:41 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Globalism? 

What does that mean?  I don't know.  It's like the word liberal.  The way people throw it around sometimes it cannot possibly mean to them what the dictionary says it means.

There is a sense of the word globalism that recognizes that we are living on a globe and should co-ordinate our efforts to make the most of that with coherent laws and customs so that our social activities, like trade, are harmonious.  At least that would be the ideal.

Then there is the Alex Jones globalism, where it's some shadowy powers controlling more and more of the world or something.  They might party and do satanic rituals at the bohemian grove, and you can pretty much let your imagination just run.

Then there is the globalization sense of the word.  From the 90's, when the free trade craze took off in earnest.  It was about capital decoupling from any kind of democratic control what-so-ever and corporations outgrowing the nation state and all that wonderful stuff.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OnlineKryptos
Stranger
 User Gallery
Registered: 11/01/14
Posts: 12,573
Last seen: 4 minutes, 52 seconds
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: JohnRainy] * 1
    #26339384 - 11/23/19 12:24 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

"Globalist" is a code word for "Jew".

People pretend it's about buying local, but it's just modern dog whistle anti-semitism.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCornboySavage
Stranger
Registered: 10/22/19
Posts: 232
Last seen: 4 years, 3 months
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #26339394 - 11/23/19 12:40 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

If its a dog whistle and you're not an anti-semite, how could you hear it? Wouldn't the point of a "dog whistle" mean only a dog could understand.

Or is dog whistle a term used to disregard contrary opinions like, the term "(PARTY) Talking point"  ? 



By definition, your own logic makes you a modern anti-semite. Unless you too are trying to feed the OP propaganda  like the media

I dunno im just a here,  I like mushrooms

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBrian Jones
Club 27
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/18/12
Posts: 12,418
Loc: attending Snake Church
Last seen: 1 day, 5 hours
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage] * 1
    #26339456 - 11/23/19 03:51 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

You joined this website about ten minutes ago, so I'll try to explain this as simply as I can. Trump loves Israel. Trump hates Jews. That has been the Republican paradox since Reagan. Reagan and Trump had/have no religious views whatsoever. Both as atheistic as I am. But they pandered to the fundamentalist Christians because they are the easiest voting bloc to bullshit.


--------------------
"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

The worst thing about corruption is that it works so well,

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinekoods
Ribbit
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/26/11
Posts: 106,724
Loc: Maryland/DC Burbs
Last seen: 59 minutes, 17 seconds
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26339919 - 11/23/19 10:57 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

We know what Donald thinks Jews are good for: finding tax loopholes for Donald J. Trump

Debating the merits of Trumps trade policy is like taking your five year old’s budget plan for the family seriously. Trump is a moron. He doesn’t know what he’s doing. Everything he says about our trade situation is a lie. He makes up numbers. He pretends he’s negotiating. Exports are falling. Imports are rising. He’s destroying foreign markets for American business for a generation. It’s a complete farce.


--------------------
NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMorel Guy
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/23/13
Posts: 15,577
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: koods]
    #26339935 - 11/23/19 11:06 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

It's ok.  According to Trump America can write it off.


--------------------
"in sterquiliniis invenitur in stercore invenitur"

In filth it will be found in dung it will be found

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OnlineKryptos
Stranger
 User Gallery
Registered: 11/01/14
Posts: 12,573
Last seen: 4 minutes, 52 seconds
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26339938 - 11/23/19 11:09 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CornboySavage said:
If its a dog whistle and you're not an anti-semite, how could you hear it? Wouldn't the point of a "dog whistle" mean only a dog could understand.

Or is dog whistle a term used to disregard contrary opinions like, the term "(PARTY) Talking point"  ? 



By definition, your own logic makes you a modern anti-semite. Unless you too are trying to feed the OP propaganda  like the media

I dunno im just a here,  I like mushrooms




Dog whistles are meant to be heard by the people that are "in the loop". Being someone that occasionally browses neo-nazi websites for entertainment and to stay current on the next verbal diarrhea they come up with, I am "in the loop".

None of that makes me an anti-semite. It just makes me informed on the comings and goings of anti-semites.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinekoods
Ribbit
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/26/11
Posts: 106,724
Loc: Maryland/DC Burbs
Last seen: 59 minutes, 17 seconds
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: Kryptos]
    #26339984 - 11/23/19 11:32 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

A dog whistle is a term that means something to the targeted group, but can be dismissed at the same time as being meaningless or innocuous. It’s implied language. You don’t say what you really mean but everyone knows what your saying.


--------------------
NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/23/19 11:33 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSulfurshelfsean
Defender of Cubes
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/29/10
Posts: 4,076
Last seen: 17 hours, 19 minutes
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage] * 1
    #26341763 - 11/24/19 06:20 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CornboySavage said:
No globalism for me thanks.

Pls dont put george soros in my tap water



Without globalism Trump's maga hats would cost an arm and a leg!


--------------------


Everything is better when it is done ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCornboySavage
Stranger
Registered: 10/22/19
Posts: 232
Last seen: 4 years, 3 months
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26341900 - 11/24/19 08:17 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
A dog whistle is a term that means something to the targeted group, but can be dismissed at the same time as being meaningless or innocuous. It’s implied language. You don’t say what you really mean but everyone knows what your saying.




You seem paranoid

Quote:

JohnRainy said:
Globalism? 

What does that mean?  I don't know.




Maybe do research before you talk of 2 types of globalism.

They are two perceived/assumed outcomes of the same sytem

globalism
[ gloh-buh-liz-uh m ]
noun
the attitude or policy of placing the interests of the entire world above those of individual nations.

This is what I disagree with^

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJohnRainy
Stranger

Registered: 07/09/19
Posts: 1,244
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26342414 - 11/24/19 12:47 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

When I type in 'globalism', I get this

glob·al·ism
/ˈɡlōbəlizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: globalism
the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis.
"millions have lost jobs to the new globalism"

This implies the 'globalization' sense of the word.  The de-coupling of capital from democratic control, as the example sentence illustrates.

What do you mean by the word?  When the interests of the globe supersede the interests of a particular nation.  I find it hard to imagine there is much of an issue there unless the nation in question is imperialistic.  How could the interests of the globe contradict the interests of one of the nations which make it up unless that nation is dominating others somehow?

And where did you get your definition?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCornboySavage
Stranger
Registered: 10/22/19
Posts: 232
Last seen: 4 years, 3 months
Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26342502 - 11/24/19 01:24 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

That is an issue because it is a fantasy ideology like pure communism and pure socialism so that useful idiots subscribe to it, give up sovereignty to a international power that then persues capitalistic gains to the benefit of the elite not the many.



The problem is that, globalsm isnt about all being under one flag, its about being under one world order that can control the population as a herd of cattle

And to assume the outcome would be good implies that you trust the architects of the global system to be benevolent.

We ahve seen what happens with central planning throughout history

Failures

A global centralization would be a global failure

Edited by CornboySavage (11/24/19 01:25 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Global Trade is...... Psilocybeingzz 1,616 14 01/25/03 02:18 AM
by Evolving
* Activists find tracking systems on their cars
( 1 2 3 all )
LearyfanS 3,742 43 02/23/08 01:08 PM
by Luddite
* Corporate Globalization Fact Sheet Psilocybeingzz 991 7 11/07/03 10:30 AM
by z@z.com
* free, fair, protectionist, nationalist trade.
( 1 2 3 all )
Malachi 3,494 46 01/28/04 10:17 PM
by Evolving
* More on Unfair trade
( 1 2 3 all )
GazzBut 3,330 55 09/20/03 05:12 PM
by GazzBut
* A look at global warming.
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )
luvdemshrooms 13,995 119 02/27/04 01:07 AM
by EchoVortex
* Globalization Serves the World's Poor z@z.com 746 5 11/04/03 09:40 PM
by Evolving
* What is Globalization? Psilocybeingzz 533 3 11/05/03 08:26 AM
by Annapurna1

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Enlil, ballsalsa
573 topic views. 6 members, 9 guests and 39 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.03 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 16 queries.