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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26342587 - 11/24/19 02:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It's not just a fantasy issue like pure socialism or pure capitalism, it's a fantasy issue like pure capitalism or pure democracy. Every economic system has elements of capitalism and socialism and every political system has elements of democracy and government control. They vary in the what proportions of each.

Increasing globalism is just reality, period, and no one can stop it. The worlds economy is an interlocking interdependent web, and to try to completely opt out of it would be disasterous. People need to reign it in and retain acceptable levels of national autonomy.

Notions of a new world order are flights of fantasy like significant colonization of other planets. Those things would take hundreds of time longer to develop than our environmental demise.


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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26343001 - 11/24/19 04:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Globalization is whats happening to the economy\


Globalism extends to the governmental and social sytems and programs that govern our rights


I would rather have a thousand small countries each with a rich and diverse culture than one homogenous golbalism sheepthink


Globalism diminishes the value of the individual because the scope of public good becomes much larger, it becomes justifiable to cause suffering to few to benefit the larger body.

That is the problem, this is what leads to the unethical shit we have seen under communist and socialist regimes.


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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26343009 - 11/24/19 04:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I don't agree.  How it creates the individual crosses all govt types.

Globalism is faster than fads.  How govt will interject itself to sustain dominate influence is the question.  As well as how individuals will react.


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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26343026 - 11/24/19 05:05 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Cant you see how neo-imperialism will be implemented under the guise of globalism.

You have to look at who the players on the board are. Who will be making decisions here?

You got USA, CHINA, maybe russia who are gonna duke it out to distribute the benefits as they see fit.

I dont know about you but the problem we are seeing today is that sometimes you just cannot integrate people into another culture if they choose to.

Look at Sweden they are facing problems with an unprecendted  bomb attacks in thier cities like its a country in war.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/04/sweden-bomb-attacks-reach-unprecedented-level-as-gangs-feud

The refugees did not have proper programs to integrate them into mainstream society and they were just kinda placed grouped with similar people and it created ghettos, we now see violence as there is fracture between the culture in these ghettos and regular Swedish people. It is a failure of centrally planned  pro-globalism olive branch policy failing on such a small scale.

I cant imagine implementing more policy along these lines on a global scale will be good


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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26343045 - 11/24/19 05:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Sweden has no problems

Take a chill pill dude.


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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #26343064 - 11/24/19 05:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26343068 - 11/24/19 05:23 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

So?


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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26343069 - 11/24/19 05:24 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Sweden has no problems






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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26343076 - 11/24/19 05:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Well shit every country has "problems".


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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #26343086 - 11/24/19 05:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Sweden Imported these problems and exacerbated the problem by failing to plan adequately because they had a positivity bias

Thinking that these refugees would voluntarily integrate over time but instead they turned inward into ghettos and now the problem is gangs because they do not feel integrated into the mainstream culture, whe growing up the kids feel they do not have a place, they arent at home so they join gangs and its leading to ethnic violence.

Its a situation where in trying to be super global and hand holdy and one love Sweden ended up creating racial tension and class warfare.


Globalism can go wrong fast even under the best intentions


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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26343149 - 11/24/19 06:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Oh because the invasion of Iraq had a plan and didn't displace anyone?

Sometimes I wish people would us their racist analysis to cover the facts.


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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26343258 - 11/24/19 07:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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That is an issue because it is a fantasy ideology like pure communism and pure socialism so that useful idiots subscribe to it, give up sovereignty to a international power that then persues capitalistic gains to the benefit of the elite not the many.



The problem is that, globalsm isnt about all being under one flag, its about being under one world order that can control the population as a herd of cattle

And to assume the outcome would be good implies that you trust the architects of the global system to be benevolent.

We ahve seen what happens with central planning throughout history

Failures

A global centralization would be a global failure






Wow now that you explain it, it seems even more irrational


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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: koods] * 1
    #26343306 - 11/24/19 07:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Call me irrational but there is a reason George Soros is banned from 6 countries


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Re: Trump may let global trade system become dysfunctional [Re: CornboySavage]
    #26343552 - 11/24/19 10:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I’m sure that’s a well sourced claim lol


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