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Re: Fruiting at spawn in a 6 hole monotub discussion [Re: tripdawg420]
#26338942 - 11/22/19 07:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said: myc grows under ground where there is no fae once it reaches the top and finds conditions right it fruits no different than a tub u have to recreate nature in doors
Weird I have never seen a cow bury it's turds Fruiting at spawn works great for monotubs I've tried other ways like trays in a Martha or sgfc ECT but lost too much moisture by the time colonization was reached. Monotubs always have a higher co2 environment because they are wall to wall substrate. Cubes are weeds though the real test should be done outside of cubensis
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Re: Fruiting at spawn in a 6 hole monotub discussion [Re: cronicr]
#26338986 - 11/22/19 08:07 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Psilo_citizen said: Chill out man, it's a public forum
Go harass someone else. I dont give two shits what you have to say.
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Re: Fruiting at spawn in a 6 hole monotub discussion [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26338993 - 11/22/19 08:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well I hate to boot you from your own thread but you are heated for nothing right now so taking your posting ability away from this thread. It's either that or take other actions but I know we all have bad days so I'm gonna let you chill on it
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Re: Fruiting at spawn in a 6 hole monotub discussion [Re: cronicr]
#26339118 - 11/22/19 09:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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tripdawg420 said: myc grows under ground where there is no fae once it reaches the top and finds conditions right it fruits no different than a tub u have to recreate nature in doors
Weird I have never seen a cow bury it's turds Fruiting at spawn works great for monotubs I've tried other ways like trays in a Martha or sgfc ECT but lost too much moisture by the time colonization was reached. Monotubs always have a higher co2 environment because they are wall to wall substrate. Cubes are weeds though the real test should be done outside of cubensis
how what the benifits of it cuz it works what the reasoning behind it
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Re: Fruiting at spawn in a 6 hole monotub discussion [Re: tripdawg420]
#26339122 - 11/22/19 09:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Way too high to understand that statement
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Re: Fruiting at spawn in a 6 hole monotub discussion [Re: BigSurMoon]
#26339572 - 11/23/19 07:22 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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The reason for preventing fresh air exchange during colonization is the higher co2 promotes colonization over pinning. It's not something that is actually needed, at least not with Cubes, but depending on the bulk substrate and spawn ratio being used pinning may occur before full colonization which can affect your pinset.
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Re: Fruiting at spawn in a 6 hole monotub discussion [Re: Kizzle]
#26339621 - 11/23/19 08:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Kizzle said: The reason for preventing fresh air exchange during colonization is the higher co2 promotes colonization over pinning. It's not something that is actually needed, at least not with Cubes, but depending on the bulk substrate and spawn ratio being used pinning may occur before full colonization which can affect your pinset.
Im a little confused by this. I thought as far as cubes went, the general consensus was that the formation of tertiary mycelium will not occur until full colonization has occurred unless a competitor is present.
How was the conclusion came to that it's elevated CO2 levels that promotes colonization? I guess it's a logical enough assumption that the myc is going to grow out until it senses it's in a hospitable environment to fruit, but it seems to me that other factors(such as lack of evaporation from a sealed environment) are likely at play here.
What bulk substrates and spawn ratios are known to induce premature pinning?
Final pain the the ass question; is much known about the(biochemical?) mechanism that cubes use to sense CO2 levels? Are they actually measuring CO2 or is it more likely that they gauge it through O2 levels or lack thereof?
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Re: Fruiting at spawn in a 6 hole monotub discussion [Re: Psilo_citizen]
#26344916 - 11/25/19 03:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bulk substrates are low nutrient so it's not quite the same as say bag of spawn that fuels rapid growth. It's the reduction in growth that triggers pinning, the mycelium doesn't know if the entire substrate is colonized or not. CO2 inhibits pinning. You can do a google search to find particular levels online, but you're not going to find any for Cubes. We're talking like 10,000 ppm so presumably the amount oxygen isn't changing much.
Do some experiments. I've mostly run into early pinning from overly wet or poorly mixed substrate which takes longer to colonize.
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