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Possible actives in Monterey County * 1
    #26337778 - 11/22/19 09:34 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Is this what I think it is?



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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #26337842 - 11/22/19 10:06 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Def an active psilocybe, prolly psilocybe allenii


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: Katz 206]
    #26337860 - 11/22/19 10:15 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

That's what I was thinking. Some looked wavy but as far as I know Cyans don't come this far down south.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: MachineElf1.618] * 1
    #26337978 - 11/22/19 11:21 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with Katz, those are Psilocybe allenii :thumbup:


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: ZenZone] * 1
    #26338435 - 11/22/19 03:37 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Psilocybe allenii


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #26338596 - 11/22/19 05:08 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the confirmation folks


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #26338637 - 11/22/19 05:34 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

That gives me hope for up here in Sonoma!


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: OmnipotenTurd] * 1
    #26339025 - 11/22/19 08:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

holy shit, people are killing it with the allenii in the south. Post here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26329501


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: breeg89]
    #26339062 - 11/22/19 08:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

There are tons more out there. I'm going back out tonight to pick the rest of them. Its on a main street right out in the open next to a restaurant. Going to be hard not to attract attention. I'll post pics in the actives thread.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: MachineElf1.618] * 1
    #26339464 - 11/23/19 03:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Going to be hard not to attract attention.





If you don't want to attract attention you can wear a bright yellow construction vest, they are basically cloaks of invisibility.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #26339472 - 11/23/19 04:12 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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If you don't want to attract attention you can wear a bright yellow construction vest, they are basically cloaks of invisibility.




This obviously doesn't apply to France these days.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #26340473 - 11/23/19 02:56 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Sightings have been few down in San Luis Obispo County over past years.

I invite anyone to come and visit the wineries, breweries, craft distilleries, beaches, Hearst Castle, restaurants......

Just bring along some of that aggressive P. allenii mycelium and give it a decent burial in any one of the many wood chipped yards, or botanical gardens,  you will encounter.

The world will thank you.

P.S. Trichocereus pachanoi and peruviansis are common landscaping features in this area.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: JoeShmoe]
    #26341199 - 11/23/19 08:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'm thinking of getting a little patch growing at home to propagate the mycelium. I'm only 40 minutes away from Paso Robles I might pay it a visit and spread the love.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #26341351 - 11/23/19 10:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah great call to keep spreading them south. They seem to do well there as long as they get irrigated.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: breeg89]
    #26343166 - 11/24/19 06:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Is irrigation a necessity?

I've seen Agaricus agustus(aka the prince) growing in wood chips up in Cambria.  That was a month or two ago in the midst of summer in a very dry year.  Next time I see that again I plan on cloning it to MEA on an agar plate.

If P. Allenii can survive without irrigation, I can recommend a place that is carpeted with wood chips (Monterey Pine and Coastal Live Oak) from recent understory clearing for fire prevention.

That place cries out for some allenii.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: breeg89]
    #26343193 - 11/24/19 06:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I thought I've read somewhere that P. allenii also grows on eucalyptus chips.  Thanks to CalTrans, we have mountains of eucalyptus chips.

We also have acres of eucalyptus trees that may offer habitat if the species can survive without irrigation.  Try Montana de Oro State park for a fine example. 

Hazard Creek is a fine example, upstream of the road.  The reef at the beach is a great walk on low tides, but be careful if there is a big swell running; as is happening today.

M de O is worth seeing if you have never seen undeveloped coast in California.  The walk south toward Diablo Canyon is awe inspiring.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: JoeShmoe]
    #26343289 - 11/24/19 07:28 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Irrigation is not required but it def helps when it's this dry out right now. This was my first time finding allenii in my town. Since finding these mushrooms I've gone on to look for other wood chip landscaping in my area and there's nothing. The patch I found was being shaded by the building and they were growing under roses and other flowers. The soil around the woodchips still looked pretty wet unlike the other woodchip areas I've searched. Its really warm out here and dry. Hope that helps.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #26343597 - 11/24/19 11:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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Going to be hard not to attract attention.





If you don't want to attract attention you can wear a bright yellow construction vest, they are basically cloaks of invisibility.




Oh the Irony! :strokebeard:


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: JoeShmoe]
    #26343951 - 11/25/19 06:15 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Is irrigation a necessity?





It is when it is as dry as it is right now.  When the rains are good it isn't required, but it still helps a whole lot.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #26348866 - 11/27/19 03:23 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'm still a bit confused on the irrigation issue.

Can P. allenii survive a dry summer into our fall rains W/O irrigation? Will the mycelium dry up and die? We have many saprophytes around here that survive the summers, but I'm not sure if P. allenii has different habitat requirements.

If they can handle dry summers (Mediterranean climate), then we have an abundance of habitat around here.


I'm asking because I'd love to see a this species flourish around here.


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: JoeShmoe] * 1
    #26349060 - 11/27/19 05:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm still a bit confused on the irrigation issue.

Can P. allenii survive a dry summer into our fall rains W/O irrigation? Will the mycelium dry up and die?




No, dries up and stays dormant until moisture and colder temps wakes it up.
You can break up the mycelium fused chips/patch while they are in this dry, dormant state, and once conditions become favorable, the patch literally "reassembles". It's crazy :sunny:


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: ZenZone]
    #26352906 - 11/29/19 10:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

They can certainly survive throughout the summer without irrigation. The more moisture they have, the better they will grow and fruit. They are helped by irrigation but survive and fruit without it in your climate which is pretty similar to the bay area which seems to be their primary habitat....


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: Hamra]
    #26356162 - 12/01/19 07:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Good news that is (in my best yoda voice)!

Our coast has dry summers, but typically significant fog; the June gloom.

Monterey pines,  with their resident lichens, harvest that fog and drip it on the roots. Eucalyptus, with their long curved leaves, appear to do similar.

Recent fire prevention practices have resulted in many, many areas of chipped Monterey pine, coastal live oak, and eucalyptus spread on the forest floor and in landscaping. 

I'm inclined to believe that our Mediterranean climate here (SLO CO.) isn't too different from that of New Zealand and Australia., where they have  a P. eucalyltii.

I'd hope to see flushes like I've seen from the bay area, but, as I've  heard.. "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride."

If I do manage to hit the "mother lode" (gold rush legacy language), I plan on salting the mine wherever I can.

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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: JoeShmoe]
    #26356522 - 12/02/19 12:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Comparing Southeast Australia with Central California, in terms of climate and habitat for P. cyanescens group/subaeruginosa is interesting. Both areas have vast Eucalypti forest habitat, however, the mushrooms only co-habitate with the Eucalypti in Australia, not in California. Why is that? I believe the difference is the annual rainfall pattern. While both have Mediterranean climates, Southeast Australia gets significant summer rainfall, not as much as winter months, but around 1-2 inches/month, which is fundamentally different (wetter) than California. The Eucalyptus don’t seem to mind this difference, probably due to their deep root systems, but mycelium/mushrooms would be more sensitive. I don’t doubt that species such as P. allenii can survive very dry summer conditions, perhaps without any irrigation, but I doubt they could thrive enough to become truly naturalized in eucalyptus infested areas of Central CA.

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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: JoeShmoe]
    #26369501 - 12/08/19 05:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Soon these will make their way down there





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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: Doug295]
    #26369774 - 12/08/19 08:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Comparing Southeast Australia with Central California, in terms of climate and habitat for P. cyanescens group/subaeruginosa is interesting. Both areas have vast Eucalypti forest habitat, however, the mushrooms only co-habitate with the Eucalypti in Australia, not in California. Why is that? I believe the difference is the annual rainfall pattern. While both have Mediterranean climates, Southeast Australia gets significant summer rainfall, not as much as winter months, but around 1-2 inches/month, which is fundamentally different (wetter) than California. The Eucalyptus don’t seem to mind this difference, probably due to their deep root systems, but mycelium/mushrooms would be more sensitive. I don’t doubt that species such as P. allenii can survive very dry summer conditions, perhaps without any irrigation, but I doubt they could thrive enough to become truly naturalized in eucalyptus infested areas of Central CA.

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Eucalyptus have only been in California for 150 years.


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