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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: JoeShmoe] * 1
    #26349060 - 11/27/19 05:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm still a bit confused on the irrigation issue.

Can P. allenii survive a dry summer into our fall rains W/O irrigation? Will the mycelium dry up and die?




No, dries up and stays dormant until moisture and colder temps wakes it up.
You can break up the mycelium fused chips/patch while they are in this dry, dormant state, and once conditions become favorable, the patch literally "reassembles". It's crazy :sunny:


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: ZenZone]
    #26352906 - 11/29/19 10:18 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

They can certainly survive throughout the summer without irrigation. The more moisture they have, the better they will grow and fruit. They are helped by irrigation but survive and fruit without it in your climate which is pretty similar to the bay area which seems to be their primary habitat....


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: Hamra]
    #26356162 - 12/01/19 07:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Good news that is (in my best yoda voice)!

Our coast has dry summers, but typically significant fog; the June gloom.

Monterey pines,  with their resident lichens, harvest that fog and drip it on the roots. Eucalyptus, with their long curved leaves, appear to do similar.

Recent fire prevention practices have resulted in many, many areas of chipped Monterey pine, coastal live oak, and eucalyptus spread on the forest floor and in landscaping. 

I'm inclined to believe that our Mediterranean climate here (SLO CO.) isn't too different from that of New Zealand and Australia., where they have  a P. eucalyltii.

I'd hope to see flushes like I've seen from the bay area, but, as I've  heard.. "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride."

If I do manage to hit the "mother lode" (gold rush legacy language), I plan on salting the mine wherever I can.

Joe


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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: JoeShmoe]
    #26356522 - 12/02/19 12:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Comparing Southeast Australia with Central California, in terms of climate and habitat for P. cyanescens group/subaeruginosa is interesting. Both areas have vast Eucalypti forest habitat, however, the mushrooms only co-habitate with the Eucalypti in Australia, not in California. Why is that? I believe the difference is the annual rainfall pattern. While both have Mediterranean climates, Southeast Australia gets significant summer rainfall, not as much as winter months, but around 1-2 inches/month, which is fundamentally different (wetter) than California. The Eucalyptus don’t seem to mind this difference, probably due to their deep root systems, but mycelium/mushrooms would be more sensitive. I don’t doubt that species such as P. allenii can survive very dry summer conditions, perhaps without any irrigation, but I doubt they could thrive enough to become truly naturalized in eucalyptus infested areas of Central CA.

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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: JoeShmoe]
    #26369501 - 12/08/19 05:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Soon these will make their way down there





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Re: Possible actives in Monterey County [Re: Doug295]
    #26369774 - 12/08/19 08:16 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Comparing Southeast Australia with Central California, in terms of climate and habitat for P. cyanescens group/subaeruginosa is interesting. Both areas have vast Eucalypti forest habitat, however, the mushrooms only co-habitate with the Eucalypti in Australia, not in California. Why is that? I believe the difference is the annual rainfall pattern. While both have Mediterranean climates, Southeast Australia gets significant summer rainfall, not as much as winter months, but around 1-2 inches/month, which is fundamentally different (wetter) than California. The Eucalyptus don’t seem to mind this difference, probably due to their deep root systems, but mycelium/mushrooms would be more sensitive. I don’t doubt that species such as P. allenii can survive very dry summer conditions, perhaps without any irrigation, but I doubt they could thrive enough to become truly naturalized in eucalyptus infested areas of Central CA.

D



Eucalyptus have only been in California for 150 years.


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