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Ape vs PE - the trips? * 1
    #26336567 - 11/21/19 05:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, how similar or different are the trip experiences between APE and PE?  Not done APE (yet) just asking.


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26336615 - 11/21/19 06:08 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Ouuu, this is gonna be good! :popcorn:


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26336633 - 11/21/19 06:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

A Cube Is A Cube. People Say PE Are Stronger Than Regular Psilocybe Cubensis, But I Think It All Depends On Genetics.

I Recently Ate .2 Of Some Colombian Rust, Expecting A Microdose & It Was Comparable To A 2 Gram Trip Of The Wild Psilocybe Cubensis I Find.

I Think Each & Every Mushroom Is Different & Can Widely Range In Potency. Unless It's A Different Psilocybe Species, Such As Azures Or Others, I Think We Shouldn't Label Different Looking Cubes As More Potent Than Others.

Just My Opinion


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: MpSeph] * 2
    #26336651 - 11/21/19 06:24 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Never really tried APE despite growing them before. All i know is that PE is fucking strong. like double a regular cube, strong. Its so powerful i would almost prefer a regular cube because PE is very chaotic. i assume APE is the same way, but i am not sure.


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: MpSeph]
    #26336906 - 11/21/19 08:23 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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MpSeph said:
A Cube Is A Cube. People Say PE Are Stronger Than Regular Psilocybe Cubensis, But I Think It All Depends On Genetics.

I Recently Ate .2 Of Some Colombian Rust, Expecting A Microdose & It Was Comparable To A 2 Gram Trip Of The Wild Psilocybe Cubensis I Find.

I Think Each & Every Mushroom Is Different & Can Widely Range In Potency. Unless It's A Different Psilocybe Species, Such As Azures Or Others, I Think We Shouldn't Label Different Looking Cubes As More Potent Than Others.

Just My Opinion




This is so true.  What complicates things unless you're sharing isolated cultures is that everytime anybody grows out any strain, they get their own unique set of genetics.  And if you spend the time to explore different varieties within the strain itself it can be very interesting what you can find.

OTOH for a given popular strain that's been in circulation for awhile there are differences between that and other strains that people tend to report, of course that rabbit hole is equally deep.


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: PrimalSoup] * 1
    #26336985 - 11/21/19 08:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

More experienced with APE than PE but they have both been similar in potency. 2-3g alone sends me to mars.

I love APE :hamletmonkey:


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Psicomb] * 1
    #26337309 - 11/22/19 12:21 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Primal, I can't believe you haven't done APE. What are you waiting for? :laugh:

Can anyone comment on if PE have the same body feel that APE does?
It's been about 5 years since I did PE and I really don't remember
it being as good as APE. APE is like what I remember ecstasy feeling
like with extreme open eye visions. 4.5g and you are walking around
in a waking dream. It's fun.


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Asura] * 1
    #26337310 - 11/22/19 12:23 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I cant even imagine dosing 4.5grams of APE. Thats nutz! :eek:


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #26337314 - 11/22/19 12:27 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It was an accident to be honest :lol:


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Asura]
    #26337327 - 11/22/19 01:07 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Whoops! :lol:


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26337552 - 11/22/19 07:28 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I've never tried neither! I tried to grow some PE.. but I got lazy cleaning it up because I had so many other projects going on.

But I guess I'm fine with standard cubes. They never disappoint me lol. 4.5g of APE. Dear lawd...

I've read that both those are like 2.5x more potent that standard cubes. Those are the real aliens right there.

Imagine getting mushrooms for your first time and it  being PE/APE but you're familiar with what other people have said "take a gram or two for your first time":lol:



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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26337563 - 11/22/19 07:42 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I don't understand the people who say PE is the same as a regular cube. I find PE to be pretty much double the strength if you have a batch with good genetics.

And if you have a PE with poor genetics it will still be as potent as a regular cube so you save yourself from the chance of growing bunk mushrooms


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26337596 - 11/22/19 08:10 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I Once Got Some PE From A Guy, Took 1 Gram On An Empty Stomach & Didn't Feel Anything. Nothing.

Now It Could've Been Just How He Stored Them & The Potency Levels Could Have Declined From Light Or Being Left Out In Open Air, Because I Don't Know Where He Kept Them.

But I Know What PE Looks Like & They Were Definitely PE

If I Took 1 Gram Of Those Colombian Rust I Recently Tried, No Doubt I'd Get A 5 Gram Trip, & If I Took 1 Gram Of The Wild Cubes I Find, I'd Get A 1 Gram Trip.

My Point Is, It Is Very Possible To Get Weak PE. Not Every Batch Of PE Are Going To Be Super Strong, Because Of Genetics.

So If You Label PE As Stronger Than Regular Cubes, You Are Saying No Matter What PE Will Be Stronger Than A Regular Cube & That's Not True. Potency Levels Can Vary Widely.

I Believe That The People Who Say PE Are Stronger Than Regular Cubes Have Just Been Lucky To Get Strong PE. They Just Haven't Got Any Weak PE Genetics Yet.


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26337635 - 11/22/19 08:28 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Reading this thread has me pretty stoked. I should have some PEs and PEUs coming soon. I hope they are ready by Christmas. I can’t wait to try them!


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Antigov] * 1
    #26338063 - 11/22/19 12:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I used to think PE was overrated until I got a dehydrator. Drying them 100% makes all the difference in the world.


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


Edited by Bill_Oreilly (11/22/19 12:41 PM)


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26338398 - 11/22/19 03:24 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I used to think PE was overrated until I got a dehydrator. Drying them 100% makes all the difference in the world.





So your opinion is to dry them first opposed to having them fresh?


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26338506 - 11/22/19 04:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Did u have to slice them in half before drying?


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26338760 - 11/22/19 06:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Did u have to slice them in half before drying?



good idea.


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Antigov]
    #26338807 - 11/22/19 06:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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I used to think PE was overrated until I got a dehydrator. Drying them 100% makes all the difference in the world.





So your opinion is to dry them first opposed to having them fresh?





No I'm just saying that it's easy to not dry them correctly which would make a real 3.5 actually a 2.2 or something (depending how poorly you dried them)

When I got a dehydrator I could get them cracker dry so a 3.5 is a real 3.5

Does that make sense?


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26338812 - 11/22/19 06:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Did u have to slice them in half before drying?





Only the really really big ones. But I do like to cut them in half because they dry quicker.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
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Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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