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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: verum subsequentis]
#26335998 - 11/21/19 01:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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fruiting conditions play the biggest role in yields if u dont know to fruit a tub your yield will show it
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: verum subsequentis]
#26336003 - 11/21/19 01:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh yah, i meant i haven't figured out what BE even is, besides acronym for biological efficiency. footpath's last response told me more than i had come to understand of it so far 100% is 1q spawn = 1 dry oz. that is nice and simple way for me to get it tho i'd still need a scratch sheet of paper and a calculator for anything beyond that simple
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: TeaforTwo] 1
#26336014 - 11/21/19 01:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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5 quarts of spawn to the bulk. Generally same volume I’ve always used. For coir, it’s 1 brick eco earth, 3 quarts Verm, 4.5 cups water. Dung/ straw I can’t remember to be honest but it was 4-6 quarts minimum. It might have actually been 6 quarts in the near yield I had. It was also Burma variety which has arm long size fruits.
For average yield on multispore I mostly run Tex orange cap or yellow cap with those numbers. I had a rustywhyte flush give me similar yield multispore. But I did harvest early due to time restraints on the first flush. It was close to my average though but slightly under.
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: TeaforTwo] 1
#26336019 - 11/21/19 01:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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1qt spawn to 1 oz dry shrooms has nothing to do with BE. That's just a metric the shroomery uses for what is acceptable. BE is a ratio between dry sub weights (grain and sub) and harvest weights.
The equation is:(weight of wet mushrooms/weight of dry materials) * 100
If you used 1lb of dry materials and grew 1lb of wet mushrooms, you achieved 100% BE.
Proof: (1lb/1lb)*100 = 100%BE
Edit: fixed equation
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: natedawgnow]
#26336022 - 11/21/19 01:55 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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The shroomery has single handedly played a role in screwing up what BE actually means
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: natedawgnow]
#26336028 - 11/21/19 01:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I’d say 1oz from a quart of spawn is a good average number for yield IME
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: natedawgnow]
#26336042 - 11/21/19 02:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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that makes sense, thanks natedawgnow! and i imagine you want total harvest all flushes for that wet weight, correct?
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: TeaforTwo] 1
#26336043 - 11/21/19 02:07 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Correct
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: Shroomerquest]
#26336047 - 11/21/19 02:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Right, what nate said. Colloquially, BE is spawn volume to dry weight. Actual BE is weight in/weight out. Noe you see why I said, 'it hardly means anything.'
There's a lot of terminology the OMC has bastardized the definitions of.
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: footpath] 1
#26336058 - 11/21/19 02:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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how many quarts do you guys typically use for MS grows in a 66qt tub? i used to do 7 religiously but looks like most do 5 or 6.
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: PsilocyBen17]
#26336061 - 11/21/19 02:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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i do four full quarts... which is roughly 5 myco quarts.
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: verum subsequentis]
#26336149 - 11/21/19 03:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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So, 5 qts, at 1:4? I'm guessing the general idea is more about depth?
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: Kazoo_bard] 1
#26336158 - 11/21/19 03:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Depth equal available water when your sub is properly hydrated. Cubes love water. Too deep and the sub will go anaerobic. This combined with the excess heats generated by thermo genesis create the perfect environment for molds and bacteria and create an inhospitable environment for cubes. So, don't go too deep
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: verum subsequentis]
#26336172 - 11/21/19 03:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: verum subsequentis]
#26336290 - 11/21/19 04:10 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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1qt=1oz =1 flush
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: Hobbit GDF]
#26336314 - 11/21/19 04:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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More is very possible and ive gotten 1.5oz from a 1200ml tray. Can’t remember ratios but it was less than a litre of spawn i reckon
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: Shroomerquest] 1
#26336343 - 11/21/19 04:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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600 lbs per flush
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: Cybin_man]
#26336383 - 11/21/19 04:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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 (sure the pet gorilla didnt sneak a toe on that scale?
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: TeaforTwo]
#26336515 - 11/21/19 05:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm hoping that isolating some rhizomorphic Colombian rustspore, I will be able to get some really strong monotub going fast. Are there any varieties that are more conducive to massive pinsets or anything? Even if it's just a unique shape lol I know theres not a lot of difference between the varieties, I've seen the phrase "a cube is a cube" a million times on here haha
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Re: What is a truly average monotub flush weight once dried [Re: TeaforTwo]
#26336585 - 11/21/19 05:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Most of the time I don’t keep the fruits separate enough to know the exact tub amounts, although I presume on average 1.5oz a jar if everything is going well. Talking in super generalities an 8 jar tub often goes 6oz, 4oz, 2oz, 1oz.
But like it’s been said, these are all arbitrary numbers since we’re all too lazy (or don’t have the right scale) to weight the total spawn with bulk mix. So that my average measurement is a bit higher than others, doesn’t actually mean it’s any better, my unmeasured bulk could be more than others and my BE actually less than other people’s average. There’s also no time scales mentioned here, in some cases that last bit took longer than the first two whole flushes.
With lots of tubs, tossing things early instead of letting them sit can be beneficial to your overall BE because you aren’t taunting the gnat or mold gods, whereas with one or two, who cares as long as they keep producing. So even if we knew a single tub BE it doesn’t always apply to a multi tub BE over long time periods.
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