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Tripping on Cannabis from only 1½ Joints
    #26335289 - 11/21/19 08:25 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I've tried Cannabis on a few occasions and every time its produced a different result, with psychedelic-like results several times.

A few months ago, I smoked pot for the first time in about a year - and holy mother of Mary-Jane did it hard like a motherfucker. I had 1+½ joints and it was completely psychedelic.

My house has a shed next to it (not quite a shed, it's essentially a second, smaller house), which I was in, with my (old school stoner) Uncle watching Netflix whom I had delegated as my trip sitter. It was night time. This was about a few minutes after I had smoked and the effects were only just starting to come on. I decided to walk back to the house to get some snacks - and this is where shit really began. It's almost as if my Uncle was grounding me and the moment I walked away from that anchor, the cannabis had complete free reign to take me where it wanted. I leave the shed and begin walking to the house. At the door, I kinda just paddle the wall for several seconds until I realize what I'm doing and consciously search for a handle (it's pitch black). At this point I start seeing visuals - quite weird visuals. While dreaming a while before this time, I dreamt that I had taken psychedelics. The visuals I saw was a web of Google's deep-dream filter across my vision. The same thing happened here, oddly. I enter the house (turning a faint light on because I don't like the dark), walk to the kitchen, do the same half-paddle thing until I realize what I'm doing, get my snacks, then begin to walk back. As I walk back, the turbo on the effects was engaged. As I walk back, everything just gets dialed up a notch. As I walk towards the door, space and time lose their rigidity. Space is expanding and time is slowing down. Dear lord, looks like we're in for a ride this time... "OK," I tell myself, "you can get through this. You can do this." It takes a while, but I finally get to the door of the shed, and

wake up on the couch... That had all simply been a dream. THAT WAS A DREAM!? It made sense. Space and time warping, the visuals which had only appeared previously in a dream - and most importantly, it felt like it was a dream. The exact same way a dream feels to try remember a dream when you wake up.

"How long was I asleep!?" I ask.
"About thirty seconds."

What..?

"Did I go up to get snacks?"
"Yeeah."

I looked, and they were on the floor. Did they... get the snacks for me?

"So I left the room?"
"Yeah."

"And got snacks."

"And came back..?"

"Yeah."

"What did I do when I got back?"

"You put the snacks on the floor then lied down."

What. The. Fuck. That was all a dream. I'm certain of it. "You're not fucking with me right?"

"No. Why?"

"You promise?"

"Of course."

It seems that all actually happened, and I was somehow fooled into thinking it was all a dream. After that, the effects began to slowly wind down. I wanted to finish off the remaining half of the second joint to explore the effects even deeper, but my trip sitter strictly recommended that I didn't and I reluctantly followed his instructions.

Has anyone else experienced something similar to this from cannabis? Is this an exception to how cannabis usually affects people or fairly normal here? I'm a total newbie, so I'm interested to hear your responses.


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Re: Tripping on Cannabis from only 1½ Joints [Re: faoneus]
    #26335330 - 11/21/19 08:46 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Very unusual but does happen with inexperience.  Addiction is also a form of conditioning.  Some people not conditioned from routine cannabis use do report some sort of hallucinations.  It's rare.


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Re: Tripping on Cannabis from only 1½ Joints [Re: faoneus]
    #26335333 - 11/21/19 08:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Cannabis can be very intense and the effects can vary wildly, especially between strains.

I smoked for over a decade (no longer do) but there were times where it made me extremely paranoid, and other times where I felt complete bliss.

I've had psychedelic-like experiences on cannabis (smoked) a handful of times, although they weren't prevalent. Some came with intense body sensations (once in bed I felt each atom in my body as it interacted with each other atom, a vibratory electrical like feeling enveloped me. Other times had very powerful closed eye visuals (CEVs) similar to those that the classic psychedelics can give).

Set and setting are just as important with Cannabis as they are with psychedelics. It was often my setting that caused me paranoia or made my heart race and, when I moved to a more comfortable and safe feeling place, I always managed to come down.

It's important to remember that cannabis, like psychedelics, can be very disorienting in high doses and/or to newbies/people who haven't done it in a while, etc. The classic notion of cannabis deeply affecting your short term memory is very true (although with time and experience that effect seems to diminish and/or be less noticeable).

However, I will say that cannabis (smoked without any other drugs), although not as "strong" as a real psychedelic dose was a lot more difficult for me. It felt foggier, gave me more paranoia consistently, and was, overall, less useful. A real mushroom dose is a-lot stronger and deeper for me but, unlike cannabis, it comes with a "mechanism" where it glues me to the floor and beats the living hell out of my ego until I can let go. Cannabis always put my ego into overdrive.

Please note, this was just MY experience with cannabis. Everyone is different and affected differently. Some will have a worse experience with it than I have and others will have much better experiences. Do not take this as a condemnation of the substance. I enjoyed it and got a lot from it when I was imbibing. I quit because I felt that, at the moment, it was not good for me and/or I was not in the right place to use it. I urge everyone to make their own decision for use or abstinence through their own experimentation.

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Re: Tripping on Cannabis from only 1½ Joints [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26335349 - 11/21/19 08:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Strain dependant as well.

There are sativa's that people say are quite like LSD.  Which I doubt, but probably have some likeness in that area.


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Re: Tripping on Cannabis from only 1½ Joints [Re: faoneus]
    #26343893 - 11/25/19 05:11 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a daily user of cannabis (1g-1.5g a day avg), and without a doubt the single-closest I've ever come to tripping was via ingestion about 10 years ago now. Semi-ego dissolution coupled with vivid colors and visuals, as well as a weird almost psychic sixth sense for events as they were unfolding in "real time" around "me". I've yet to have cannabis have that effect in me since (I also don't ingest often).

I think even :tmckenna: has gone on record saying that ingesting cannabis in the correct amounts can have LSD-like effects on users, and this is ultimately why they try to keep it out of people's hands lol.

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Re: Tripping on Cannabis from only 1½ Joints [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26345731 - 11/25/19 10:19 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

only time i've tripped off cannabis I attributed it to chemicals likely used in the growing process(brickweed). other than that I consume approx 1/2gr of concentrate or 1/8oz of Marijuana a day now with no psychedelic effects unless combined with other psychedelics. although a few weeks ago some friends and I were talking and we came to the conclusion that we all had experienced some sort of psychedelic effects from marijuana when we were inexperienced so i'd say its fairly normal despite most not really remembering.


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Re: Tripping on Cannabis from only 1½ Joints [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26346566 - 11/26/19 11:17 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Socrateshroom said:
Cannabis can be very intense and the effects can vary wildly, especially between strains.

Mush love :heart:




I second that, Socrateshroom. I’ve been using psylocibin mushrooms for three and a half years as a replacement for SSRI medication for depression. It’s working a treat. And for each trip I always prepare 4 joints beforehand; one for the come up, two for the peak, and one for the post-peak after-glow. Especially during the peak, I find that grass extends the potency, so when it starts to fade, a joint puts you right back in the peak for up to an hour. It helps the come up anxiety (though see below for a twist on this), and the last one brings me down ready for food and Pink Floyd.

I have started on a programme of fortnightly maintenance doses (3.8g P. cubensis B+) with occasional 5+g. The trips are generally the same, dependant on set and setting, and music, indoors or out. You get the picture. But last week I’d run out of grass, but wanted to maintain my two week frequency (and that is seeming to make the after glow last for two weeks - perfect). So I scraped out all my containers, and also made one joint from the powder at the base of the grinder. I smoked the first when the mushrooms were starting to kick in. It massively intensified, then stopped. For like two hours. I’m normally in the or approaching the peak at 2 to 3 hours. But then it started to come back on at two hours and continued right up to almost a level 5, but without the ego loss. The visuals were intense and scary as hell, like the external visuals you get from high dose liberty caps! The clock ticked backwards; my dragon came alive and moved towards me at which point I realised this shit was real! I’d tried smoking a second joint to calm the anxiety, which it did, but the strength just ramped up again. So bad in fact, I did NOT smoke all the joint. The other weird thing was the sense that I was tripping 5 to 10 minutes in the past; was a really strange sensation. Also got blasts of light through my skull, which briefly hurt. And the music was SPECTACULAR! (Shpongle -mAre You Sphongled?).

Totally inexplicable, same batch, same weight, same preparation method (lemon tea). It can only have been the weed that I’d scraped from my tubs. Must have been stronger than I thought.

So bottom line; weed / grass /marijuana enhances a trip. So I guess for the uninitiated, it could cause too much intensity to handle! BUT....if the weed is strong, it can ‘almost’ overpower the mushrooms.

Take care, y’all.

DJ Ed


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