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possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog?
    #26335224 - 11/21/19 08:01 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry guys I don't know habitat or substrate friend of mine picked them. I really have to download the manual to my camera this is embarrassing.

I think the white one is a shrimp of the woods and cream colored one is a hedgehog, the underside is spikes. If these are correct guesses the white one is a bit soft it gives when you press, you guys think its still good  to eat? Appreciate the help im downloading camera manual while I wait for responses.



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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26335297 - 11/21/19 08:30 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'd never even heard of a 'shrimp of the woods' before seeing this, so nothing to say there...

as far as the reported hedgehog goes.... your gill shot, which would positively ID this is sooooooo out of focus that it's impossible to tell. I mean it looks like it probably is, if it's got teeth on there it is... but I really can't see them.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Magic Badger]
    #26335324 - 11/21/19 08:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I'd never even heard of a 'shrimp of the woods' before seeing this, so nothing to say there...




He refers to Entoloma abortivum, which I guess is possible here but we'll need way better pictures and more details.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26335332 - 11/21/19 08:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26335343 - 11/21/19 08:51 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like a hedgehog to me, but you really need to work on getting better pics


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26335347 - 11/21/19 08:52 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch] * 1
    #26335362 - 11/21/19 08:56 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hydnum sp. and Entoloma abortivum, respectively.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26335365 - 11/21/19 08:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, that's a hedgehog. I'd say, as it seems to have no signs of an umbilicus, it's likely a fairly small Hydnum repandum


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26335366 - 11/21/19 08:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

cheers Anglerfish


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26336696 - 11/21/19 06:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Can confirm Entoloma abortivum are out in the eastern US.  I ate a pound plus of them tonight with a venison tenderloin :solidnod:


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: relic]
    #26336771 - 11/21/19 07:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Fancy.Cool ill keep eye open for them


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26337614 - 11/22/19 08:17 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Browned/caramelized in salted butter with a lil onion and garlic, they're delightful.  Top six fungus edible ime

Edit:  go light on the onion and garlic, tho.  They're just to round out the flavor, not overpower the fungus.  Browning the E. abortivum really develops the flavor.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: relic]
    #26337634 - 11/22/19 08:27 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Cool going hunting today maybe ill find some. Do they like a particular tree or area?


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26338119 - 11/22/19 12:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Find areas infected by honey mushrooms: 15 to 50 year old hardwood forests with intermittent dead trees which give no outward appearance of why they should be dead; they're likely infected by armillaria.

I find them most often in the leaf litter from 6 inches to 15 feet from the base of living (or at least still standing) trees.  When you find one, stop and look carefully because chances are there are more hiding in the fall leaves. 

If you find any Armillaria or Entoloma, you should also slow down and look harder at that point because, again, the aborted version may be hiding nearby. 

If you find a patch, there's a good chance they'll grow again in that same vici city next year.  I've been dipping into the same ~2 acre area for five years now, each autumn.

Best of luck!


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: relic]
    #26338290 - 11/22/19 02:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome thanks a lot for the info


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26338293 - 11/22/19 02:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

:hatsoff:


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: relic]
    #26338323 - 11/22/19 02:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Found these ones in central New York, early October. The rest of the pictures are blurry, and I didn't pick any because I realized my hands were in the poison ivy that surrounded them. I think I've built up some tolerance to it, but I'm still not interested in eating it.

Also, I don't know exactly what species hedgehog mushrooms are, but maybe this is one?

IDK if it's even close to be honest, I don't feel like looking it up right now.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Uzidaisies]
    #26338340 - 11/22/19 02:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Cool. Didn't find anything today we really need rain should get some this weekend and ill check areas I've seen honey mushrooms.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Uzidaisies]
    #26338402 - 11/22/19 03:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

The timing makes sense, uzi. Central NY in early OCT, central VA in early to mid NOV, and just starting in GA.  You likely could've just washed them off and been good to go, but I hear you on not liking the possibility of eating urushiol.  Fuck that. 

Have you had em before?  If so, ever eat the Entoloma parent?


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26338405 - 11/22/19 03:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Cool. Didn't find anything today we really need rain should get some this weekend and ill check areas I've seen honey mushrooms.




Unless you're in the northern mountains of GA, your abortivum season should just be ramping up.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: relic]
    #26338833 - 11/22/19 07:00 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I've not tried them, I've been hunting and collecting, identifying and examining, for a quite a while. This year is pretty much the first time I've actually been interested and confident enough to start collecting mushrooms to eat. The only thing I ate this year was some bear's head tooth, Next year I'll probably try a few more. I know a spot for wine cap stropharia, and I can probably find some pear shaped puffballs again. If I see some more shrimp of the woods I will probably try those if they're not covered in poison ivy. I found some this year that I didn't know we're edible and others that were just too old or in too poor a condition to try.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Uzidaisies]
    #26338881 - 11/22/19 07:19 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

those wine caps are a pretty mushroom. Yeh I just started too if it wasnt for this forum it wouldve took me years to get to where im at.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26344891 - 11/25/19 02:56 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)



Hey guys what you think about these?

found a nice cluster but dropped it in the spring and then looking seemed too far gone anyway, bummer. Guess prime time was before this last rain. I left a lot of small ones maybe they'll grow more before it gets too cold.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26348310 - 11/27/19 10:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry about that, was away for a couple days. 

Wash em off, trim out any discolored areas, and fry em up!

As with all new-to-you edibles, try a tablespoon or so before diving in to the whole batch.  Thats what I've always read; try a small portion first to make sure you're not sensitive to them (allergic reaction, indigestion, etc)


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: relic]
    #26348314 - 11/27/19 10:55 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

When I say discolored areas, I mean truly discolored, not just a little like the one at 3 o'clock/far right in your pic.  That one is fine. 

I trim out any blackened areas or spots or divets where any soil doesn't wash out.

Best thing you can do is to make sure to harvest them carefully and brush or blow off any dirt before putting them in your collection bag or basket...that way you minimize cleanup and cross contamination.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: relic]
    #26348579 - 11/27/19 12:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Awesome thanks for the pointers. They were good nice mild taste I think I put too much onion next time try them plain.

That's a good tip thx yeh now inside my mesh bag its all funny gonna have to wash it.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: relic]
    #26353306 - 11/30/19 07:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup:

Definitely want to go very light on any added flavors and make sure to brown the mushrooms in order to bring out a slightly nutty flavor they develop when browned/carmwlized (similar to the way onion flavor develops when you brown and carmelize them as opposed to their flavor when raw)


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: relic]
    #26353368 - 11/30/19 08:17 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

cool. Might go back for the others on Monday. I left quite a bit of small ones by that spring. There's these Greyish kinda purple mushrooms very close to them. Wonder what those are. Ill pick some an make an ID request. Hard to see but there's one at the very top in my last pic.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26353395 - 11/30/19 08:39 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Googled Entoloma looks like them
.now I'm confused.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26353408 - 11/30/19 08:49 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)



That's what I saw. Cap was a little more pronounced Greyish purple. Will they turn into shrimps? I'm confused I thought they were honey mushrooms that are infected. What's your take on that?


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26353670 - 11/30/19 11:29 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Those are Entoloma abortivum mushrooms, the blobs are technically blobs of both Entoloma and Armillaria hyphae

They will not turn into shrimps. Both the E. abortivum mushrooms and the blobs are edble.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Moria841]
    #26353674 - 11/30/19 11:31 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Those are Entoloma abortivum mushrooms, the blobs are technically blobs of both Entoloma and Armillaria hyphae

They will not turn into shrimps. Both the E. abortivum mushrooms and the blobs are edble.



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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Doc9151]
    #26353923 - 11/30/19 01:42 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Sweet


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26355527 - 12/01/19 12:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



Bananner fer scale. Yall happen to know what them purple stemmed mushrooms are. Found quite a few of the normal Entoloma but they were past their prime.

The honey mushrooms were going ape near the upended trees.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26355890 - 12/01/19 04:36 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Bananner fer scale. Yall happen to know what them purple stemmed mushrooms are. Found quite a few of the normal Entoloma but they were past their prime.

The honey mushrooms were going ape near the upended trees.



The purple stemmed mushrooms are  species of Cortinarious and they are mostly like toxic as *****.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Doc9151]
    #26355955 - 12/01/19 05:29 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Ah I see. Lol face got flush and ran in kitchen make sure none made it into the dish. Cheers Doc


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26363193 - 12/05/19 03:15 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)



Found some more. I think that one dark looking one might be past its prime.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26363459 - 12/05/19 05:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Found some more. I think that one dark looking one might be past its prime.



Entoloma arbortivum and I can not see the darker one but I agree that it's past it's prime.


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Re: possible shrimp of the woods and hedgehog? [Re: Stosch]
    #26365037 - 12/06/19 01:13 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Found some more. I think that one dark looking one might be past its prime.





:congrats:

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