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Do I have HPPD?
    #26333448 - 11/20/19 12:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I tripped pretty hard last friday (450μg), and it lasted a long time (14+ hrs). Great, I thought. So for a few days after I still had mild visuals, like flat surfaces warping a little bit and distortions in my peripheral vision, but they were almost completely gone yesterday.

Yesterday afternoon, I smoked a good amount (not a monstrous amount) of weed, and I got some acid visuals back (more vivid color distortions). Cool, I thought.

So today I woke up seeing distortions just like I saw the day after my trip. As I'm typing this, the text is moving ever so slightly, and If I look at the shades in my room or the corners of walls, they move a bit too.

I looked it up and my symptoms seem to match HPPD. I'm a bit worried that this could be something serious. I'm also enjoying music more than usual today, something that also happened on acid. Idk though, that could just be placebo.

My mind feels pretty sharp, I've been studying for a test and I haven't noticed any lack of intelligence. Then again, on acid I never felt like my intelligence went out the window, although I definitely couldn't focus on HW.

Is there something for me to be worried about? I tripped twice before and visuals always went away pretty quickly.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26333454 - 11/20/19 12:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like you twisted your gourd and gonna be a fried mental patient for eternity.

No worries.  I think a lot of these things are people being paranoid and imagining things.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26333462 - 11/20/19 12:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It happens.
May be psychosomatic, may not. But it's there.
Just ignore it. If you can't, then lay off of it for a while.
Treat yourself well - eat well, engage in bodily activity, and get adequate rest.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: footpath]
    #26333469 - 11/20/19 12:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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footpath said:
It happens.
May be psychosomatic, may not. But it's there.
Just ignore it. If you can't, then lay off of it for a while.
Treat yourself well - eat well, engage in bodily activity, and get adequate rest.



I can definitely ignore it. It's not annoying at all, it's a little interesting to be honest.

I'm just scared it could progress or that I would have experiences like I'm actually tripping in the middle of something important?


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: footpath]
    #26333470 - 11/20/19 12:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

HPPD can be duplicated without drugs and one of the methods in Buddhism.  Optical illusions, such as starring at a Mandala then closing eyes and holding that vision.

HPPD is excited nerves.  Such as starring too much things get weird.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26333488 - 11/20/19 12:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

That wouldn't denote a disorder, just a reaction.

OP, you'll be fine.
Staring at screens or shit like the that in your signature won't help the pesky optic activity, but you won't just start hallucinating for no reason.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: footpath]
    #26333497 - 11/20/19 12:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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That wouldn't denote a disorder, just a reaction.

OP, you'll be fine.
Staring at screens or shit like the that in your signature won't help the pesky optic activity, but you won't just start hallucinating for no reason.



Alright, thanks.

Would it be dangerous for me to keep tripping (the visuals after will become more severe)?


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26333504 - 11/20/19 12:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

First time I took acid I was very young and dumb.  In class some time well after, I thought I had a flashback.  It wasn't, I thought my vision got worse or something.

Don't make yourself sick over worrying.  You just woke up some nerves that that were sleeping.

With acid it could get 'worse' if you keep activating those neurons.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26333519 - 11/20/19 12:56 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I mean, it depends on your intake frequency. That static can become more pervasive and harder to ignore, but I've never had it be so bad that I can't concentrate.
When I would dose 3 or more times a week, I couldn't ignore shadows, reflections, certain textures, etc. and it was chronically distracting. That, I would consider more of an adverse side effect.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: footpath]
    #26333531 - 11/20/19 01:02 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I mean, it depends on your intake frequency. That static can become more pervasive and harder to ignore, but I've never had it be so bad that I can't concentrate.
When I would dose 3 or more times a week, I couldn't ignore shadows, reflections, certain textures, etc. and it was chronically distracting. That, I would consider more of an adverse side effect.



Yeah, I’m not planning on dosing that frequently. And as long as the effects would eventually go away, I’m fine.

Do you still get trippy visuals?


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26333547 - 11/20/19 01:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Not so much anymore. Maybe if I'm tired or something, some of those light distortions will queue my attention, but I'm pretty keen to what kind of optical inputs are tricking my mind.
As far as the static, that took a little while to fully go away. I only really take mushrooms and ayahuasca these days - neither of which give me it at all after I've fully come down.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26333585 - 11/20/19 01:30 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I tripped pretty hard last friday (450μg), and it lasted a long time (14+ hrs). Great, I thought. So for a few days after I still had mild visuals, like flat surfaces warping a little bit and distortions in my peripheral vision, but they were almost completely gone yesterday.

Yesterday afternoon, I smoked a good amount (not a monstrous amount) of weed, and I got some acid visuals back (more vivid color distortions). Cool, I thought.

So today I woke up seeing distortions just like I saw the day after my trip. As I'm typing this, the text is moving ever so slightly, and If I look at the shades in my room or the corners of walls, they move a bit too.

I looked it up and my symptoms seem to match HPPD. I'm a bit worried that this could be something serious. I'm also enjoying music more than usual today, something that also happened on acid. Idk though, that could just be placebo.

My mind feels pretty sharp, I've been studying for a test and I haven't noticed any lack of intelligence. Then again, on acid I never felt like my intelligence went out the window, although I definitely couldn't focus on HW.

Is there something for me to be worried about? I tripped twice before and visuals always went away pretty quickly.





You don't have HPPD.


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Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26333752 - 11/20/19 02:41 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

A long time ago I unintentionally had an extremely strong acid trip.  I only had a few prior experiences at that point.  It was overwhelming.  If you think of the common visual of breathing, swelling in and out... well.  That crossed all senses.  So all sound was sliding up and down refusing to stay constant.  The hardest part is when I looked at a stuffed animal.  Visually it was growing bigger and smaller, and I miraculously had the somewhat logical thought that although my vision was distorted, I could simply reach out and touch the object.  I believed I would feel the steady surface and hopefully get more grounded.  So I touched the fur... and I felt exactly what I was seeing.

That's when I thought I broke my mind.

Well, the acid eventually wore off and I felt much relieved as things returned to normalcy.  However, I had lingering effects just the way you described.  Weed was way too intense and would felt like it was starting a trip again.  Even sober, looking at the wrong pattern it would jitter. 

And I wondered the same as you having read way too much, is this HPPD?

Bill's right, it is not HPPD.

It took a week, maybe two to wear off.  As others said, good rest, food, water, and abstaining from intoxicants ease the journey.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #26333758 - 11/20/19 02:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Had it for a very long time after a hard trip on a high dose.

Weed definitely potentiates it.

In an analogy:

Imagine a curtain shortly ahead of you that displays your reality.

When we trip, it's like turning that curtain see-through, revealing a different reality behind it.

HPPD (subjectively as I see it) is like when you've been looking through for so long that it can be hard to only see the foreground curtain. It's basically an overawareness of what was probably always there.

If you want it to disappear, ignore it -pretend it isn't there and distract yourself with life. You'll forget about it pretty quick.

Essentially I believe it's psychosomatic. The part that makes yours different to my experience is 'My mind feels pretty sharp, I've been studying for a test and I haven't noticed any lack of intelligence.'

I was semi-tramuatised and felt (excuse the use of the term) retarded for several days after. Not myself, paranoia, genuine fear of HPPD being a possibility...

Don't worry about it and you'll be fine.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: teenagehippie]
    #26333766 - 11/20/19 02:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Mine would be like red blue and green static on the walls, building in intensity when I focus on it. Sometimes swirling, text difficult to focus on etc.

Have any of you heard of hypnogogia? I also experience that, especially when stoned and in the quiet/dark. I think it's just a by-product of the mechanism our brains use to process visual data.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26333770 - 11/20/19 02:48 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I find taking any psychedelics will cause visual effects for a while after, only mild ones though. This can take a few weeks or even months for it to go away for me. Smoking weed in the days after also definitely brig back visuals. Just wait it out, probably nothing to worry about.


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Re: Do I have HPPD? [Re: teenagehippie]
    #26333774 - 11/20/19 02:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

What is the matter with HPPD? When I used to stare at carpet it moved back in my acid days. Not anymore.


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