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Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking
    #26331427 - 11/19/19 03:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It was a big surprise to me that this has been going on since the late 70s or earlier

Imperium pt1
https://www.wanttoknow.info/mk/child-trafficking-documentary


Imperium pt 2
https://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/video/child-trafficking/child-trafficking-imperium-2

The people who tried to come forward during these times were killed just like what we see going on now.


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Thekd95]
    #26331444 - 11/19/19 03:27 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yep! Been looking at these things since I heard of the pizzagate conspiracy, really strange sickening stuff. My brother and I are lucky we didn't get picked up. Latchkey kids in apartment complexes, no supervision.


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26331460 - 11/19/19 03:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Are there any new docs that y’all about the Epstein scandal, as long as we don’t let this die on the Internet I think we will eventually get answers


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Thekd95]
    #26331557 - 11/19/19 04:07 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

From the Epstein topic;
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dreamachine said:
My family came into contact with a faction of mafia over a decade ago. They would go to parties and events with people like George Bush, Willie Nelson Oprah, owners of oil companies like EXXON or CHEVRON etc, and other famous and rich and powerful people/families owned property in the same area and were 'friends'. One of my close family members was being brought into the fold because of his alleged past connections with other mafia organizations, coupled with his position with the military that has significant jurisdiction over import/export routes.

He was let in on the secret that pedophilia is used as blackmail to force cooperation and to bind people to the organization and reduce chances of leaks. It was after this revelation and his refusal to take part that our family began to experience veiled threats; mafia-style; shortly after he uprooted our family and we fled thousands of miles to get away from said organization.

In short, my family has first-hand experience with this kind of shit and it's clear that the elite, the richest and most powerful individuals and families are almost all part of the same group (though there are different factions within it) that uses pedophilia and worse, to bind individuals and families to the organization.

I do not claim that any of the before-mentioned statements are true or factual and any statements made from this point forward related or unrelated to the before-mentioned statements are also void of any claim to be true or factual




Shit's fucked up. The 'good guys' with money and power need to step up to the plate asap. This shit can't be allowed to continue. The people need to reboot the Occupy movement and shoot cocaine up it's nose. lol


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Thekd95]
    #26331569 - 11/19/19 04:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Nobody wanted to molest me.

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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26331575 - 11/19/19 04:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Be thankful; you'd be a split personally agoraphobe that can barely function in reality unless they're doped up like crazy if you had. And or you'd end up perpetuating the abuse and the suffering.


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26331579 - 11/19/19 04:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Crazy horse your more of a loco burro


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Thekd95]
    #26331584 - 11/19/19 04:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I heard Venezuela opened up a fast food chain called El Burro Loco.

Dang i'm hungry. lmao


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Thekd95]
    #26331593 - 11/19/19 04:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Dreammachine I can tell your a great soul.
As for doping most people that are offenders rather a coherent host as fucked as that sounds shit makes my stomach turn and blood boil. If we could start stoning events held by the public I think there would be less offenders, since we can’t agree on castrations.
Let’s all vote to be more like Alabama and stone them in the meantime
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/591226/


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Thekd95]
    #26331604 - 11/19/19 04:19 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I already saved a lot of money on vacation to Venezuela because I already eat ass like crazy :bathtub40lol:


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Thekd95]
    #26331647 - 11/19/19 04:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know if we need stonings; I think that kind of shit is bad for the psyche of the people; turns them into blood thirsty monsters as well; I think a single bullet to the head is good enough. justice is one thing, revenge and vengeance is another, and they breed corruption and lead to the dark side.


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: dreamachine]
    #26331658 - 11/19/19 04:40 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Without darkness what is light?


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Thekd95]
    #26331681 - 11/19/19 04:47 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

True. It takes two hands to clap. Yet things grow in the light and die in darkness. So I suppose it depends on whether or not you believe and want to see life continue to grow.


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: dreamachine]
    #26331697 - 11/19/19 04:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

My philosophy is deterring unhealthy lifestyles


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Thekd95]
    #26331705 - 11/19/19 04:53 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Like discouraging childsex trafficking?


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: dreamachine]
    #26331838 - 11/19/19 05:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

"Shit's fucked up. The 'good guys' with money and power need to step up to the plate asap."

What if there are no good guys with money and power due to all the rest of them culling them out and only getting bad guys and their ilk to keep the shit going?


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dreamachine said:
Be thankful; you'd be a split personally agoraphobe that can barely function in reality unless they're doped up like crazy if you had. And or you'd end up perpetuating the abuse and the suffering.




Woah! Hold up there! I and my brother were molested by the babysitters son and some random couple (men) that lived in an apt. complex we lived in. The took a bunch of us apt. latchkey kids in thier apt one day (very vivid memory)maybe 7-10 of us and took pics of us, then they took my brother, and couple other kids in another room and gave us all penthouses and playboys to look at to keep us busy, one guy stayed with us, and I think they traded places taking turns taking pics.

I do not have ANY desire or any thoughts of molesting kids. I am not on any meds for psych issues either. I do consider myself (and my brother) very lucky there's not any of that happening. I do think/know my brother handled it worse than me, but I can't get him to go to anyone to talk about it, he is fairly well adjusted considering. I have had some therapy (self imposed) and was told I am adjusted well.

I did years of researching the subject of mental health and molestation due to me liking the same sex. Yes, there are stats that will say a certain % of molested people go on to molest, get addiction, become alcoholics, have to have med therapy, etc...I am very lucky I'm not a statistic on the bad end, and it was a small % of people that like the same sex and they attributed it to the molester being the same sex. So, this subject is extremely personal.

You seem to be a good poster/newbie, and I like the direction a lot of your posts go so far. This post needed some extra attention by me to clear some things up by your statement. :heart:


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26331883 - 11/19/19 05:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You're right I should clarify. Not everyone that is molested or raped will perpetuate the cycle, but almost every time you find a rapest or a pedophile they were raped themselves as children. I have family members very close to me that were molested/raped as children, and it seemed to have happed for a few generations... Let me just say there is a high degree of mental illness that seems to coincide. And while me and my siblings weren't molested we definitely were the victims of a ripple effect because of our parents having been (at least my mom) PTSD to a high degree that ripped our family a part (drug abuse, physical abuse, neglect; luckily no sexual abuse at least that I can remember)

Long story short, just because you were abused doesn't mean you will abuse, however, the more abuse a person experiences the more ill their mind and spirit will become; especially if experienced as a child; and especially if it occurs over years of time vs isolated events. imo

but I believe said damage can be repaired; even though it may take many years to do so.


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: dreamachine]
    #26331935 - 11/19/19 06:15 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I can agree with some of that. Seems like you had some dysfunction as well.


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26331983 - 11/19/19 06:37 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26331988 - 11/19/19 06:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Oh yeah. I could write a book on my family. I mean to one day. It's a craaazy story. Luckily my family has mostly recovered from the horror though the 'PTSD' still has a lot of us pretty fucked up compared to 'normal' people.

I'm sorry about what happened to you and you're brother. That shit's fucked up. Was it a reoccurring thing?


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: dreamachine]
    #26332865 - 11/20/19 07:49 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

WOW! A brother in arms (twisted mangled dysfunctional arms). Luckily I only remember one time with the babysitters son (his mom was real piece of, ummmm, work too, another story), and that one time with the 2 men in the apt complex. There was a couple of other times but that was with 2 sisters (named Misty and Rain, lol) they were about 15ish and my brother and I were around 7-10, some random boys through the years before I was 12, and one really wild time with about 10 boys aged 10-15 (I posted it in here somewhere). My brother said that babysitters son got him numerous times though.

I could write a novel as well. This site has been a catharsis for me in some ways, and I think a lot of others in here as well whether they post what happened to them, friends, and/or family or not. The doc I talked to also came to the conclusion that I was going to be with men anyway and I could rest easy knowing that it wasn't due to the molestation. The confirmation was very good for me, this was in 2011-2012. Growing up in the south was pretty brutal having those thoughts and feelings, but I digress.:heart:


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26333164 - 11/20/19 10:12 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

This thread is becoming amazing with every post, I have been through a lot of similar situations and so has my wife which is ironic to me because I had no idea that she had been abused as well. I’ve been told that people that have been abused can see it in each other without ever saying anything and I would have to admit that that is true I’ve had numerous gf’s growing up that we’re abused and the common denominator always surprised me. I will say it is more common for those that have been abused to continuously abuse themselves thinking that they are choosing it so it’s ok more often then someone actually becoming an abuser whether it be physically abusive significant other or just a toxic relationship. It’s really great to find more people like me and look forward to hearing more of people’s thoughts and how they are overcoming and coping with it now, whether it be anonymously or however they feel comfortable.

Mush love and light


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: Thekd95] * 1
    #26333692 - 11/20/19 02:25 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah. I'd say psychedelics and spirituality helped me a lot to get through a lot of what's happened in my life. At first I was pretty fucked up; I wouldn't be surprised if kids at school thought I was gonna be a columbine kid; lol

I use to be angry as fuck, but I found weed at 17 and almost completely switched over to love and light; living in the mountains blazing herb in the forest listening to bob can do that to you

other experiences later in life helped me to see the domino effect of causes that led to the abuse in my family and allowed me to recognize that it is a generational thing, that probably stems from some kind of conflict far in the past; seems like the ripples of war extend much further than a lot of people recognize

then when I added psychedelics to the pot a lot of what happened kind of clicked in a weird metaphysical systematic kind of a way; I started to see what happened to me and my family as not so much a personal thing, but like a forest fire or a flood; and all that really helped me to look at the hardships of people all around the world, and to not only be able to have sympathy but also empathy;

that said though, because of my outlook I often get in a lot of trouble with people, because folks (individuals and groups of people) tend to want to self-abuse as you said, and often times they find excuses for their self-abuse, and then often they try to find pity, and that pity than turns to anger, which is responsible for a lot of the division and racism that you see today.

a lot of groups today were abused in the past and or are still being abused (i'd reckon to say 99% of the population is being abused by the 1% tbh) and most of them are still in a stage of anger and hate for their abusers and yet still find themselves trapped being dependent on their abusers, and demand for others to fix their problems for them; they blame innocents just because of their skin color or their heritage.

Like an individual who won't begin to heal until they forgive their abusers and realize that they were just people who likely themselves where abused, and that they were ripples of a force much larger then themselves, and forgive themselves for being weak and allowing themselves to be abused, and then standing up and believing in themselves and believing in their ability to heal and grow; until that sentiment begins to set in across the globe we will continue to see stunted healing and growth I think.

as corny as it sounds only love can heal hate; but first one must come to love oneself; and that seems to be one of the hardest parts.

or something like that; hell what do I know; lol

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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: dreamachine] * 1
    #26333697 - 11/20/19 02:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

all that said these child traffickers need to be stopped; we can forgive someone for being the byproduct of abuse and perpetuating that abuse, but we can't allow for said abuse to continue.


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Re: Imperium documentary shows global child trafficking [Re: dreamachine]
    #26333717 - 11/20/19 02:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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