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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26438218 - 01/17/20 09:52 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

They should take back the power of the word like the Bahamas did.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26438294 - 01/17/20 10:33 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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I was curious and looked it up and we're not supposed to say the Yukon either.



Yukoner here - it's definitely 'The Yukon'. Don't go with what some suits in Whitehorse and Ottawa decided - they've never even been up here.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26438371 - 01/17/20 11:23 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Holy shit. Whitehorse, population 25085, is the only city up there, and the 10th largest municipality has 24 people. I guess not even minor league hockey in The Yukon.

What's the industry there, mining and logging?


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26438375 - 01/17/20 11:24 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Why does the word THE change the nature of the country?


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26438379 - 01/17/20 11:25 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Holy shit. Whitehorse, population 25085, is the only city up there, and the 10th largest municipality has 24 people. I guess not even minor league hockey in The Yukon.

What's the industry there, mining and logging?




Ice road trucking and little house building


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods] * 3
    #26438530 - 01/17/20 12:47 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Holy shit. Whitehorse, population 25085, is the only city up there, and the 10th largest municipality has 24 people. I guess not even minor league hockey in The Yukon.

What's the industry there, mining and logging?



Mining, tourism, and government are the top three employers in descending order. Apart from local firewood supplies, the logging industry is almost nonexistent up here - long cold winters lead to stunted tree growth. Most of our forests have never been logged but a hundred year old tree up here is often smaller than a twenty year old one further south. Check out drunken forests for an extreme example.

As for hockey, no minors no juniors but we definitely have local community leagues in winter and my town has a street hockey tournament outside the local dive bar in summer. We get our fix. Although, in 1905 the (now defunct) Dawson City Nuggets challenged Ottawa for the Stanley Cup.





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Why does the word THE change the nature of the country?



It denotes a uniqueness to the region. The Amazon... the Himalayas... the Pacific... the Yukon... but not the Washington because that name is over used and played out.

used as a function word before nouns that designate natural phenomena or points of the compass
I'm going to the Yukon.

used as a function word to indicate that a following noun or noun equivalent is a unique or a particular member of its class
Welcome to the Yukon.




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Ice road trucking and little house building



The ice roads are out in the northern Prairie provinces and NWT - our bread and butter is gold mining 'reality' tv. They tried to get my friends to fake a show about trapping in the bush a few years back too but just ended up paying my crusty friend to get drunk in the forest for a couple weeks before they realized none of the footage was useable.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26438638 - 01/17/20 01:53 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Why does the word THE change the nature of the country?




Changes the reference point. Adding "The" makes it less personal. "Yukon" has personality of its own that you get to know, "The Yukon" is a place/region/mythical person that you only get to learn about and understand.

Ukraine is also technically "The Ukraine" for historic reasons.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26438850 - 01/17/20 04:15 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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This new Parnas story is getting juicy: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-says-he-doesnt-know-lev-parnas-parnas-says-he-has-pictures-with-trump/ar-BBZ27Gq?ocid=spartanntp

Trump is at it again with the "No I don't know him" game. It never gets old :popcorn:



He doesn't know him except he had pictures with him and to his credit he takes a lot of pictures right well also he happened to be at trumps fundraisers donatimg large amounts of money to his campaign as well as getting a one way ticket to flee the country but it didn't work so well.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26438862 - 01/17/20 04:26 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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You seem to understand business ok, but not politics.  Lutsenko had no interest in going after Burisma with Biden on the board (and Adam Schiff an investor).



Well I watched the video. What I learned is Shokin didn’t prosecute Burisma, but Lutsenko did. Your claim here is refuted by your own video.



Shokin wanted to prosecute (against Poroshenko's wishes), and that's likely why he got fired.

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According to the video, Burisma owed $40 million in back taxes. Lutsenko got them to pay $7 million. That sounds like a fairly standard deal even by American standards.



I take back "You seem to understand business ok".  The penalty HAS to be more than the crime, or someone HAS to got to jail.  Otherwise, every single business would dodge their taxes.

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But, again. What did Hunter Biden have to do with that? He wasn’t the accountant. He wasn’t involved in the domestic business at all.



But again, "Lutsenko had no interest in going after Burisma with Biden on the board (and Adam Schiff an investor)."

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And while giving Lutsenko undeserved praise,  Joe Biden actually had nothing to do with Lutsenko getting hired. The Obama administration and the IMF wanted Shokin gone before they would guarantee a loan, and Biden was the messenger. I’ve never heard any claim that Biden demanded Lutsenko get the job .



That may be why the establishment is so desperately trying to stop the investigation - so we never hear about it.

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The video wasn’t as nutty as I expected, but he was clearly pushing to make Lutsenko as bad as possible, while pretty much ignoring the charges and accusations against Shokin. He has been widely criticized for slow walking or blocking prosecution of certain entities, including Burisma and it’s owner. In the end Shokin never prosecuted Burisma, but Lutsenko actually did. So, claiming that Biden wanted to protect Burisma by getting Shokin fired just doesn’t make sense. In the end, the firing of Shokin resulted in a replacement who did prosecute. 🤷‍♂️



In a sworn affidavit dated 4 September 2019, for a European court, Shokin testified that "On several occasions President Poroshenko asked me to have a look at the criminal case against Burisma and consider the possibility of winding down the investigative actions in respect of this company, but I refused to close this investigation."


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: feldman114]
    #26438873 - 01/17/20 04:33 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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That ignorant mother fucker... it’s not “THE Ukraine” you dumb fuck!! There’s no worse insult to a Ukrainian...and this is a letter to the president of Ukraine...I have no words...




I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way.
"The" isn't needed when talking about Ukraine.  However, "the" is sometimes needed when you talk about the United States of America.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26438977 - 01/17/20 05:36 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
Why does the word THE change the nature of the country?



It denotes a uniqueness to the region. The Amazon... the Himalayas... the Pacific... the Yukon... but not the Washington because that name is over used and played out.

used as a function word before nouns that designate natural phenomena or points of the compass
I'm going to the Yukon.

used as a function word to indicate that a following noun or noun equivalent is a unique or a particular member of its class
Welcome to the Yukon.
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Well shit,
thought it was because the Yukon is more fully referred to as the Yukon Territory
and the implication of calling Ukraine by similiar nomenclature would be that it is being designated as a region in a larger entity

:shrug:

prolly didn't need another endless poli discussion thread in my subscriptions tho:goodmorning:

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Tantrika] * 3
    #26439007 - 01/17/20 05:56 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

at least the rise of the far-right etc. thread finally died


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26439580 - 01/18/20 03:19 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Is the Lev Parnas thing a big deal?  Or will it amount to nothing?  It kind of just keep going.  Trump keeps saying he doesn't know him, and there's video and pictures of them together, now this.

Why was Lev Parnas wearing a ‘Presidential Service Badge’ awarded to troops who serve in the White House?

Imagine if this guy would have made his flight and got away?  Holy fuck they have to make Giuliani testify.  This could, maybe, just maybe, if the senate doesn't hold a closed door acquittal anyways, get too hot. 



Whereas before, I thought there was 0% chance of Trump being removed, now it's somewhat more than 0%.  Like, some quantum amount above 0.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26439589 - 01/18/20 03:40 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

In my opinion the Parnas this is a big deal because it shows Parnas involvement with Giuliani, who was directly involved with the Ukraine situation. Another close witness to the Trump's secret plan.

Just saw this in the news: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-may-discredit-an-impeachment-trial-designed-to-acquit-him/ar-BBZ4paP?ocid=spartanntp

This quote by Julian Zelizer about the Senate compared to Trump is real interesting:

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"They want to kill this quickly, they want to kill it quietly." he said, "whereas President Trump like to handle problems
by creating chaos and creating a circus."




Seeing the Republican-run Senate's overall "quick and quiet" style of dealing with the trial compared to Trump's intense behavior is going to be an interesting dynamic to watch.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26439951 - 01/18/20 09:55 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
    #26440038 - 01/18/20 11:09 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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at least the rise of the far-right etc. thread finally died



Thank god...that thread was a pain in the ass to moderate.


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    #26440122 - 01/18/20 11:59 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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at least the rise of the far-right etc. thread finally died




Sorry.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: qman]
    #26443713 - 01/20/20 07:09 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26445431 - 01/21/20 11:33 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

This entire process is a sham. They’re not gonna allow the house managers to subpoena documents. They’re not going to allow any witnesses to testify. They are making the trial go until 1:30 am due to limiting 24 hours of over 3 days. McConnell only cares about party. This is disgusting.


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