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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: JohnRainy]
#26437570 - 01/16/20 09:52 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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If Republicans turned on Trump, Id be really surprized.
I could only see that happening if there was a ton of new evidence released during the Senate trial demostrating Trump's secret scheme. Only time will tell.
I believe the trial officially starts next Tuesday?
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: JohnRainy] 1
#26437572 - 01/16/20 09:53 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don’t know. Pence is now involved too, so dumping trump to get pence isn’t as appealing as it could have been.
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Seriously_trippin said: The source is absolute garbage and what makes conspiracies conspiracies is that anything can be put out as fact and not proving it doesn't exist doesn't make it any less ridiculous. Can you prove that the government isn't putting microchips in people's head to make them hear voices but that's obviously crazy.
You didn't watch the video either. It's not conspiracy nonsense as everyone who didn't watch it keeps make believing, it's video footage of how bad a prosecutor Biden's replacement (Lutsenko) was compared to Shokin, who Biden withheld $1 billion to get fired.
Burisma was found to have not paid $40 million in taxes, but Lutsenko let them off with with only a $7 million fine, and no other punishment. Hunter Biden turned out to be worth every penny!!!
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Seriously_trippin said: The source is absolute garbage and what makes conspiracies conspiracies is that anything can be put out as fact and not proving it doesn't exist doesn't make it any less ridiculous. Can you prove that the government isn't putting microchips in people's head to make them hear voices but that's obviously crazy.
You didn't watch the video either. It's not conspiracy nonsense as everyone who didn't watch it keeps make believing, it's video footage of how bad a prosecutor Biden's replacement (Lutsenko) was compared to Shokin, who Biden withheld $1 billion to get fired.
Burisma was found to have not paid $40 million in taxes, but Lutsenko let them off with with only a $7 million fine, and no other punishment. Hunter Biden turned out to be worth every penny!!!
Ok well Biden didn’t withhold $1 billion. It was a $1 billion loan guarantee. In other words, the US was co-signing a loan for Ukraine. Biden isn’t responsible for Lutsenkos poor performance. The US wasn’t demanding Lutsenko be hired, only Sholkin be fired.
What does Hunter Biden have to do with back taxes? He was on the board. He wasn’t responsible for operations. A board of directors is responsible for making strategic decisions, and manages the executives who actually run the company. The board only comes together for meetings. The members usually have other jobs.
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
#26437729 - 01/17/20 01:11 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Ok well Biden didn’t withhold $1 billion. It was a $1 billion loan guarantee.
Ok.
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koods said: Biden isn’t responsible for Lutsenkos poor performance. The US wasn’t demanding Lutsenko be hired, only Sholkin be fired.
Biden had some pretty excellent words when Lutsenko was hired, even though he was a convicted felon with no legal degree.
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koods said: What does Hunter Biden have to do with back taxes? He was on the board. He wasn’t responsible for operations. A board of directors is responsible for making strategic decisions, and manages the executives who actually run the company. The board only comes together for meetings. The members usually have other jobs.
You seem to understand business ok, but not politics. Lutsenko had no interest in going after Burisma with Biden on the board (and Adam Schiff an investor).
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You seem to understand business ok, but not politics. Lutsenko had no interest in going after Burisma with Biden on the board (and Adam Schiff an investor).
Well I watched the video. It could have been ten minutes long. What I learned is Shokin didn’t prosecute Burisma, but Lutsenko did. Your claim here is refuted by your own video.
According to the video, Burisma owed $40 million in back taxes. Lutsenko got them to pay $7 million. That sounds like a fairly standard deal even by American standards. We have an entire legal system based upon prosecutors trying to get the most punishment or restitution and the defendant vying for neither, and almost always a deal is made in beteeen
But, again. What did Hunter Biden have to do with that? He wasn’t the accountant. He wasn’t involved in the domestic business at all.
And while giving Lutsenko undeserved praise, Joe Biden actually had nothing to do with Lutsenko getting hired. The Obama administration and the IMF wanted Shokin gone before they would guarantee a loan, and Biden was the messenger. I’ve never heard any claim that Biden demanded Lutsenko get the job .
The video wasn’t as nutty as I expected, but he was clearly pushing to make Lutsenko as bad as possible, while pretty much ignoring the charges and accusations against Shokin. He has been widely criticized for slow walking or blocking prosecution of certain entities, including Burisma and it’s owner. In the end Shokin never prosecuted Burisma, but Lutsenko actually did. So, claiming that Biden wanted to protect Burisma by getting Shokin fired just doesn’t make sense. In the end, the firing of Shokin resulted in a replacement who did prosecute. 🤷♂️
As for Hunter Biden, yeah he probably got the job because his last name is Biden. But he certainly had the business qualifications to sit on the board, having previously been an bank executive as well as an executive at Amtrak. He was there for his business and legal experience. The fact that he had no experience in the energy sector isn’t relevant. No where in that video was any accusation that he exerted undue influence over prosecutions. To the contrary, the company was prosecuted while he sat on the board.
There’s just no there there. Sorry.
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
#26437987 - 01/17/20 07:48 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: I am convinced Rudy is going to be charged with crimes. He lobbied on behalf of foreign officials to get the ambassador removed and succeeded.
The new quid pro quo revelations where Trump gets the Biden story if the ambassador is removed is just as bad as the zelinsky deal. Maybe worse since both sides clearly complied with the deal.
This is some seriously dirty shit.
He should. And I don't think he would stand up to questioning. I think he would rat out Trump to save his own skin. He knows what happens to everyone closely associated to Trump; they go down. That's why I keep saying he has real mental health issues. The old Rudy would have never put himself in this position, when everyone could see it coming. If he's not senile then it's narcistic ego.
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods] 1
#26437991 - 01/17/20 07:52 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: vinsue] 1
#26438071 - 01/17/20 08:56 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lev Parnas needs to explain how the hairs on the top of his head stay permanently wet
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Brian Jones] 2
#26438079 - 01/17/20 09:01 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: I am convinced Rudy is going to be charged with crimes. He lobbied on behalf of foreign officials to get the ambassador removed and succeeded.
The new quid pro quo revelations where Trump gets the Biden story if the ambassador is removed is just as bad as the zelinsky deal. Maybe worse since both sides clearly complied with the deal.
This is some seriously dirty shit.
He should. And I don't think he would stand up to questioning. I think he would rat out Trump to save his own skin. He knows what happens to everyone closely associated to Trump; they go down. That's why I keep saying he has real mental health issues. The old Rudy would have never put himself in this position, when everyone could see it coming. If he's not senile then it's narcistic ego.
If he wrote this letter himself, then his mental state is in decline. No way a competent lawyer writes a letter like that. This is middle school English homework quality.
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
#26438084 - 01/17/20 09:05 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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That ignorant mother fucker... it’s not “THE Ukraine” you dumb fuck!! There’s no worse insult to a Ukrainian...and this is a letter to the president of Ukraine...I have no words...
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods] 1
#26438090 - 01/17/20 09:07 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Lev Parnas needs to explain how the hairs on the top of his head stay permanently wet
Haha he should be on the cover of Eastern European Stereotype Weekly
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: feldman114]
#26438096 - 01/17/20 09:08 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Calling it the Ukraine is worse than calling Katlyn Jenner a dude.
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: feldman114]
#26438106 - 01/17/20 09:11 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods said: Lev Parnas needs to explain how the hairs on the top of his head stay permanently wet
Haha he should be on the cover of Eastern European Stereotype Weekly
The annual tracksuit edition is my favorite
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
#26438110 - 01/17/20 09:12 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Adidas for life, comrade.
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: feldman114]
#26438111 - 01/17/20 09:13 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think I knew that. Obama made that mistake five years ago. I was curious and looked it up and we're not supposed to say the Yukon either.
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
#26438122 - 01/17/20 09:17 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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The first paragraph Rudy spends trying to convince him there’s nothing corrupt about what he’s doing.
Like answering a baby sitter ad with “ let me first say that the baby was already dead when I went to check on her. It’s normal for babies to just die sometimes.”
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Brian Jones]
#26438173 - 01/17/20 09:32 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: I don't think I knew that. Obama made that mistake five years ago. I was curious and looked it up and we're not supposed to say the Yukon either.
Yeah well you’re not a politician and I’m sure you’d do like 10min of research on a country if you were writing a letter to its president. I had to stop watching Jim Jefferies’ late night show cause he said it....and I fucking love that Ausie cunt.
For the record: The Ukraine was a Soviet republic. Ukraine is a country. And it’s important to know because the USSR committed genocide in THE Ukraine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
“ Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine[12] and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government.[13]”
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: feldman114]
#26438198 - 01/17/20 09:42 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jim Jeffries is my favorite.
I think I blame the Risk game for The Ukraine.
I found the same thing. Ukrainians view the phrase "The Ukraine" as a symbol of Soviet oppression.
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