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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26323059 - 11/15/19 05:37 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Oh u mean this?


Ahhh, Trump has the best quotes.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26323066 - 11/15/19 05:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I remember the night of Trump's inauguration the crowd started chanting "lock her up" and he said something to the effect of "no no, thats all over".He didnt actually care of shes crooked. Shit just got people riled up. Didnt they have an inquiry into her emails anyway??




Yeah the IG report, of which the right had been giddy in anticipation, found no criminal wrongdoing with the handling of the emails or the investigation.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26323119 - 11/15/19 06:02 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Do you really believe he would rather have been special counsel rather than Director of the FBI?




I doubt he wanted to be either. I seriously doubt he would be interested in a ten year appointment at age 73, when he’s already held the position.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26323142 - 11/15/19 06:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26323144 - 11/15/19 06:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

:takingnotes:


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26323152 - 11/15/19 06:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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You are taking the word of an administration that lies constantly, over a man under oath. Let’s see what these anonymous sources say under oath. When Sarah Huckabee was under oath she was telling a totally different story about things then when she was standing at the podium lying to the press.



Ok, sure, let's see what they say under oath.  Oh wait, they're not going to be asked to say anything under oath.  And Mueller lying us into the Iraq war which killed over 1/2 million people isn't exactly trustworthy behavior.

Anonymous sources used to be cool with you when we were talking about the Mueller investigation, but now when Fox does it, it's no longer ok.  That's the double standard Trump was talking about.





Dude you really have no clue about journalistic ethics, do you? Journalists give sources anonymity when the source has a legitimate reason to remain anonymous, such as fear of retribution, job security, legal jeopardy, etc. When a journalist is taking a statement from a White House official, especially one that makes a serious criminal accusation against the testimony of someone under oath, there is no legitimate reason to protect your source. That fox article is crap journalism. It’s he said against she said, except he said it on TV under oath, and she said it with zero accountability.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26323159 - 11/15/19 06:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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NPR didn't doubt it:

Special Counsel Robert Mueller Had Been On White House Shortlist To Run FBI



Seriously dishonest take on this. The White House said Mueller was seeking the job. The NPR article says Trump was seeking Mueller.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26323191 - 11/15/19 06:30 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I know the White House is lying because trump was constantly tweeting about muellers conflicts of
interest, saying he had a grievance over a refund for a membership at Trump golf club. This went on for months - maybe over a year - before he started saying anything about mueller wanting a job. It took them all that time to remember mueller wanted the FBI, or to think up another bullshit conflict to use against him?

I’m sorry, even if this White House didn’t  have a reputation for egregious dishonesty, this would be too far fetched to believe.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26323212 - 11/15/19 06:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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NPR didn't doubt it:

Special Counsel Robert Mueller Had Been On White House Shortlist To Run FBI



Seriously dishonest take on this. The White House said Mueller was seeking the job. The NPR article says Trump was seeking Mueller.



Actually, it's your take that's dishonest.  The article goes on to say "Mueller had gone so far as to meet with Justice Department leaders and White House officials about the FBI job".

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It took them all that time to remember mueller wanted the FBI, or to think up another bullshit conflict to use against him?



Trump had an interview with Mueller for the job which he said Vice President Mike Pence attended.


I don't know if Mueller was pursuing the job or not.  What I do know is that you don't know either, and you're lying by pretending to know.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26323270 - 11/15/19 07:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Mueller said he wasn’t, and he’s really the only person that can answer the question with total authority.

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Mueller had gone so far as to meet with Justice Department leaders and White House officials about the FBI job, which opened after President Trump fired Director James Comey on May 9. But that idea went by the wayside after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein instead reached out to Mueller to run the politically sensitive Russia probe




So you’re claiming that mueller might have wanted the job, but he didn’t pass up the mueller probe despite wanting the FBI job. Mueller wasn’t turned down. There was only one day between his interview (that TRUMP REQUESTED) and him accepting the job of special counsel

Come on dude use some common sense


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26323290 - 11/15/19 07:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Look, Mueller said under oath he wasn’t seeking the job. The White House claims he’s lying. They need to provide proof of their claim. Making anonymous accusations with no supporting evidence doesn’t cut it.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26323297 - 11/15/19 07:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Mueller said he wasn’t, and he’s really the only person that can answer the question with total authority.



So it's not possible for Mueller to lie?  Should I repost the Iraq WMD video?

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Mueller had gone so far as to meet with Justice Department leaders and White House officials about the FBI job, which opened after President Trump fired Director James Comey on May 9. But that idea went by the wayside after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein instead reached out to Mueller to run the politically sensitive Russia probe




So you’re claiming that mueller might have wanted the job, but he didn’t pass up the mueller probe despite wanting the FBI job. Mueller wasn’t turned down. There was only one day between his interview (that TRUMP REQUESTED) and him accepting the job of special counsel

Come on dude use some common sense



No, I'm not saying that.  I'm saying it's possible that after he didn't get the Director of the FBI job, he was given the special counsel job instead.  How does that violate common sense?


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26323300 - 11/15/19 07:21 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Trump gives clemancy to war criminals

War criminals


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26323350 - 11/15/19 07:42 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Trump gives clemancy to war criminals

War criminals



What president doesn't?


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26323372 - 11/15/19 07:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

It is a first.  Prior war crimes went unreported or reduced by the military.  Never a President.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #26323380 - 11/15/19 07:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

:doublefacepalm:



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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26323387 - 11/15/19 08:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Mueller said he wasn’t, and he’s really the only person that can answer the question with total authority.



So it's not possible for Mueller to lie?  Should I repost the Iraq WMD video?

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Mueller had gone so far as to meet with Justice Department leaders and White House officials about the FBI job, which opened after President Trump fired Director James Comey on May 9. But that idea went by the wayside after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein instead reached out to Mueller to run the politically sensitive Russia probe




So you’re claiming that mueller might have wanted the job, but he didn’t pass up the mueller probe despite wanting the FBI job. Mueller wasn’t turned down. There was only one day between his interview (that TRUMP REQUESTED) and him accepting the job of special counsel

Come on dude use some common sense



No, I'm not saying that.  I'm saying it's possible that after he didn't get the Director of the FBI job, he was given the special counsel job instead.  How does that violate common sense?




Because that’s not what the article says. It says the idea of mueller being FBI Director went by the wayside when he was asked to be special counsel.

the nameless accusations from the White House were meant to cast doubt on mueller and you are once again going to bat for them by giving them exactly that.

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So it's not possible for Mueller to lie?  Should I repost the Iraq WMD video?





Of course it is, but how do we compare muellers credibility to the credibility of unnamed White House sources that have provided no evidence? Again, who is more credible, a man under oath testifying about his state of mind, or a unnamed sources who have a political motivation to discredit mueller, but no evidence?

I’m done debating this with you.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26323426 - 11/15/19 08:27 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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No, I'm not saying that.  I'm saying it's possible that after he didn't get the Director of the FBI job, he was given the special counsel job instead.  How does that violate common sense?



Because that’s not what the article says. It says the idea of mueller being FBI Director went by the wayside when he was asked to be special counsel.



Here's what it says, oh great King of make believe:
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Mueller had gone so far as to meet with Justice Department leaders and White House officials about the FBI job, which opened after President Trump fired Director James Comey on May 9. But that idea went by the wayside after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein instead reached out to Mueller to run the politically sensitive Russia probe, which is examining ties between Russians and Trump campaign aides, the sources said.



According to the article, he WAS pursuing the job until he was told he we was told they had other plans for him.

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So it's not possible for Mueller to lie?  Should I repost the Iraq WMD video?



Of course it is, but how do we compare muellers credibility to the credibility of unnamed White House sources that have provided no evidence?



You're forgetting about Trump, who is not "unnamed".

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I’m done debating this with you.



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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26323496 - 11/15/19 09:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck Trump. Nothing he says has any credibility.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26323527 - 11/15/19 09:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I'll agree that not everything he says is reliable, but much of it is.


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