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OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: feldman114]
    #26346708 - 11/26/19 12:54 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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wasn't arguing with you about whether he was shown in the movie.  I was arguing with koods about whether he was a producer.  He was NOT.





Yeah that wasn’t what we were arguing about. That’s where the goal posts in YOUR head were moved.

What he said in Loose Change was pure 9/11 batshit crazy. He’s espousing - straight up in his own word - the LIHOP version of the conspiracy theory

Why can’t you just admit you’re wrong?




I think I know why.

https://www.psycom.net/personality-disorders/narcissistic/
“A narcissist is never wrong because he (or she) perceives himself as perfect.“

How did he get this way?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenarcissisticlife.com/the-narcissist-is-never-wrong/
“A narcissist grew up believing from his earliest years that he is special and was most likely treated that way even as a small child. A narcissist develops a pathological sense of self entitlement very early. Truth is a foreign concept to the narcissist. His personality is built on a “false self”, believing that he is a superior, perfect being without flaws. As a child, he was not held accountable for his mistakes, lies or cruelties. His parents did not provide a sense of limits or respect for other human beings. He learned as a child to exploit and manipulate other human beings- to win at any cost. The damage to another person’s life was just collateral and necessary to his own immediate goals. “

High IQ + inflated ego = narcissism



I guessed you missed my rebuttal showing why koods was wrong.  We have a thread history showing why Loose Change was brought up.  It was an attempt to discredit Ray McGovern.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26346715 - 11/26/19 12:57 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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He said he thought Dick Cheney would be capable of allowing an airliner not to get shot down, he NEVER accused Dick Cheney of being behind 9/11.




Yep. That’s the core of LIHOP (let it happen on purpose). The government knew about the attacks but let them happen so the event could be used to invade Iraq.

This is why it’s futile to debate with you. Even when someone proves their point beyond a shadow of a doubt, you still can’t accept the truth.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26346716 - 11/26/19 12:59 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Ray McGovern IMPLIED that Cheney had prior knowledge. What's that equate to?



Prior knowledge of what?  There is 100% certainty that Dick Cheney had knowledge of the approaching plane, and didn't order it shot down.  That's what Ray McGovern was clearly talking about (unless you can show me otherwise).

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Stupid movie, I'm not playing any further, I've said what I wanted to say.



Yes, it was a very stupid movie.  I'm agreeing with you on that so you don't need to "play" further.  Hopefully you've seen it wasn't produced by Ray McGovern.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26346718 - 11/26/19 12:59 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Falcon, I’m not trying to insult you. In fact, I called you smart in my last post🤷🏻‍♂️

That said, you obviously have trouble admitting you’re wrong.

As proof, how do I know you already want to respond to the above with some version of: “prove me wrong then” or “where exactly did I make an error”..

We all have flaws. This is one of yours.
Keep on keeping on though. This thread would have died days ago if not for you. At the very least you get people’s head gears turning.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26346730 - 11/26/19 01:05 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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He said he thought Dick Cheney would be capable of allowing an airliner not to get shot down, he NEVER accused Dick Cheney of being behind 9/11.




Yep. That’s the core of LIHOP (let it happen on purpose). The government knew about the attacks but let them happen so the event could be used to invade Iraq.

This is why it’s futile to debate with you. Even when someone proves their point beyond a shadow of a doubt, you still can’t accept the truth.



Are you make believing that Ray McGovern thought Dick Cheney had prior knowledge of the attacks?  Where did he say that?

He said Dick Cheney knew about the plane approaching the Pentagon, and never ordered an evacuation nor had it shot down.  We KNOW that's true.  And Ray was questioning why.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26346733 - 11/26/19 01:05 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Good, hopefully you'll see WHY I SAID RAY SEEMED DISGRUNTLED !!

That's what I said.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26346736 - 11/26/19 01:06 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

morning yall; what are we arguing about today? :lol:


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: dreamachine]
    #26346739 - 11/26/19 01:07 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

r u in alaska or russia?

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: cannabinated]
    #26346742 - 11/26/19 01:07 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Hawaii


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: feldman114]
    #26346745 - 11/26/19 01:08 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Falcon, I’m not trying to insult you. In fact, I called you smart in my last post🤷🏻‍♂️

That said, you obviously have trouble admitting you’re wrong.

As proof, how do I know you already want to respond to the above with some version of: “prove me wrong then” or “where exactly did I make an error”..

We all have flaws. This is one of yours.
Keep on keeping on though. This thread would have died days ago if not for you. At the very least you get people’s head gears turning.



Thanks for the compliment.  So my "flaw" is that that I ask for proof when I'm told I'm wrong?  :wtf:


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26346751 - 11/26/19 01:11 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Good, hopefully you'll see WHY I SAID RAY SEEMED DISGRUNTLED !!

That's what I said.



Actually you said "an obviously disgruntled ex CIA spook", and my response simply was "I noticed instead of you showing he's been wrong about things, you call him "disgruntled" as if that means anything." And that led to the current discussion.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #26346758 - 11/26/19 01:15 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Falcon, "The blind have been made blind and they will not see"


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: dreamachine]
    #26346767 - 11/26/19 01:18 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I've found Stable Genius to generally be very smart, so I'm a little confused by the current discussion.  I don't know feldman114 very well though.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26346769 - 11/26/19 01:19 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Koods rule number one. If you push 9/11 conspiracy theories you are forever disqualified from any benefit of the doubt or from being given credibility.



Asking questions is NOT the same as pushing a conspiracy theory.  :facepalm:

Maybe you can provide an actual conspiracy theory you believe Ray is pushing?  I am looking (so far unsuccessfully) for that.




I have.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26346773 - 11/26/19 01:21 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Ah, the make believe one that we discussed here.  I don't play make believe, as I'm sure you know.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26346781 - 11/26/19 01:26 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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I've found Stable Genius to generally be very smart, so I'm a little confused by the current discussion.  I don't know feldman114 very well though.



Even smart and intelligent people who have been victim to the team mentality propaganda will prevent one from seeing the truth if it goes against their team.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26346788 - 11/26/19 01:29 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

“What does he do when he does make a mistake?

The narcissist is never, ever wrong, and he likes to present “proof” that he is correct. The narcissist cannot accept responsibility for making a mistake and he is expert at diverting the blame to others – (“It’s not my fault. I lost that promotion because my team let me down”, “You were acting so stupid-you made me hit you.”, “If you weren’t so cold, I wouldn’t have had that affair”). A narcissist will never admit even horrendous mistakes and when confronted, he will deflect, delay and tell more lies. He believes he is invincible and perfect.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenarcissisticlife.com/the-narcissist-is-never-wrong/

It’s eirie

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: feldman114]
    #26346804 - 11/26/19 01:38 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I feel America and the world at large is severely suffering from narcissism from all fronts.

I wobble back and forth from narcissism and total uncertainty about the reality of all things. :lol:


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: feldman114]
    #26346812 - 11/26/19 01:40 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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“What does he do when he does make a mistake?

The narcissist is never, ever wrong, and he likes to present “proof” that he is correct. The narcissist cannot accept responsibility for making a mistake and he is expert at diverting the blame to others – (“It’s not my fault. I lost that promotion because my team let me down”, “You were acting so stupid-you made me hit you.”, “If you weren’t so cold, I wouldn’t have had that affair”). A narcissist will never admit even horrendous mistakes and when confronted, he will deflect, delay and tell more lies. He believes he is invincible and perfect.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenarcissisticlife.com/the-narcissist-is-never-wrong/

It’s eirie




Again, the clip we all watched showed Ray McGovern asking why Dick Cheney didn't issue a warning nor order the airliner shot down that was heading towards the Pentagon.

Koods is make believing Ray said Dick Cheney already knew about the attacks beforehand.  If Ray said that, can you please show me where and I'll concede the discussion?


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: dreamachine]
    #26346814 - 11/26/19 01:40 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

lack of narcissism is bad for our rulers economy

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