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OfflineFalcon91Wolvrn03
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26344435 - 11/25/19 11:20 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok I found the actual one I think. It’s got your buddy in it. He suggests Cheney allowed the pentagon to be hit. 54:00 mark. His basis for this: it’s something Cheney would do.





Your new video says the executive producer was Alex Jones at 3:50, and never mentions Ray McGovern.

The IMDB site also mentions Alex Jones as a producer, but not Ray McGovern.

It looks like you've been snookered.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26344703 - 11/25/19 01:31 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

"1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN IF YOU ATTEMPT TO TAKE OUR FIREARMS!" - Alex Jones


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: dreamachine] * 2
    #26344725 - 11/25/19 01:45 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

So, Alex Jones is going to commit treason and lead a bunch of seditious idiots against the US?

They tried that against Lincoln. They got second place. That's why there are a bunch of participation trophies for "confederate heroes" littering the shittier parts of the US.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Kryptos]
    #26344728 - 11/25/19 01:47 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

commit treason? lol you just say words without thinking huh? XP


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: dreamachine]
    #26344730 - 11/25/19 01:48 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Taking up arms against the United States government is literally treason, yes.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Kryptos]
    #26344752 - 11/25/19 01:55 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Is that a fact?

So if the US Government started marking houses and then started taking people to FEMA camps (hypothetically speaking) it would be treason to stand up against that?


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: dreamachine]
    #26344758 - 11/25/19 01:57 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Treason: the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.

Taking up arms against the legitimate legal processes of the US is treason, yes.

Laws change in congress, not in the streets.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Kryptos] * 1
    #26344772 - 11/25/19 02:07 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." - The Declaration of Indepence


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: dreamachine]
    #26344774 - 11/25/19 02:08 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: dreamachine]
    #26344777 - 11/25/19 02:09 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." - The Second Amendment


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: dreamachine]
    #26345044 - 11/25/19 04:32 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)



Scroll to 53.45

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26345201 - 11/25/19 05:51 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I am having trouble finding any one who still supports the current administration in real life.  I do live in a city, which is probably why, but I don't know.
Any one know people who are still supporting the current administration as of today?    What is their thought process?  Did the recent live impeachment hearings sway them at all?

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #26345249 - 11/25/19 06:18 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Purpose of the 2nd amendment: protect yourself from government tyranny.

2019 America

- Tyrant as President
- Congress is bought and paid for by corporations and billionaires
- Rampant poverty caused by horrible tax laws.
- Police state

Nobody is using the 2nd amendment


1773 America:

- 3 pennies per pound of tea tax

Revolution. War. 50000 American dead. close to 150000 casualties.


So.... Progress  I guess...

Also, America doesn't even drink tea anymore...


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #26345280 - 11/25/19 06:33 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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I am having trouble finding any one who still supports the current administration in real life.  I do live in a city, which is probably why, but I don't know.
Any one know people who are still supporting the current administration as of today?    What is their thought process?  Did the recent live impeachment hearings sway them at all?




Most people hate the hearings and think it's a complete waste of time, just like the Russia ruined the 2016 election narrative that turned out to be pure BS.

So it's not so much an endorsement of Trump, but a very cynical attitude towards The Establishment and MSM today.

You can't bring up 20,000 nothing burgers and expect to gain public support.  Nobody buys into the CNN and NYT's bullshit anymore.

People don't want to defend Trump, but they can recognize a baseless witch hunt when they see it.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: qman] * 1
    #26345287 - 11/25/19 06:36 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

patty lulz i usually disagree with u

but u r right

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: qman]
    #26345295 - 11/25/19 06:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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You can't bring up 20,000 nothing burgers and expect to gain public support.  Nobody buys into the CNN and NYT's bullshit anymore.

People don't want to defend Trump, but they can recognize a baseless witch hunt when they see it.






What burgers are you talking about? 
There is soo much evidence right now in this impeachment inquiry that implicates mostly Republicans.  More to come for sure.  It's not just CNN and NYT.  Countless news organizations are reporting it.

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    #26345340 - 11/25/19 07:11 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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You can't bring up 20,000 nothing burgers and expect to gain public support.  Nobody buys into the CNN and NYT's bullshit anymore.

People don't want to defend Trump, but they can recognize a baseless witch hunt when they see it.






What burgers are you talking about? 
There is soo much evidence right now in this impeachment inquiry that implicates mostly Republicans.  More to come for sure.  It's not just CNN and NYT.  Countless news organizations are reporting it.




All I can say is that nobody finds it very compelling unless they're major haters of Trump to begin with in the first place.

I'm no fan of Trump today, but there's absolutely nothing there to get even slightly excited about. 

Maybe that will change at some time down the road, but after 3 long years of this nonsense the public doesn't care anymore. :shrug:

You do realize IF the witch hunt didn't start on day one of Trump's victory, they could have legitimately busted him on something?  They NEVER gave Trump the chance to fuck up, they had to jump on him on day one and that was a massive error on their part.

"implicates mostly Republicans"

Your bias is apparent there.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: qman]
    #26345409 - 11/25/19 07:41 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

The DNC and the RNC emails were hacked, but only the DNC emails were released.

Probably some seriously nasty shit in the RNC closets, more useful as blackmail.

And what democrats have been implicated?

In the last 50ish years, one democrat has been removed for felony abuse of office, and 80 something republicans have been removed for the same reason.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: dreamachine]
    #26345428 - 11/25/19 07:49 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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dreamachine said:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." - The Declaration of Indepence




The revolution was treason against Britain. They just won.

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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson




Feel free to use your blood, leave mine out of it.

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dreamachine said:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." - The Second Amendment




Yeah, go use that on the tyrant that won election with a minority of the vote.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26345483 - 11/25/19 08:06 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Scroll to 53.45



You're link doesn't work, but I'm pretty sure you're it's the same as 53:45 of the link koods posted.

I think we should start at 51:25 to get a little context.  Mineta testified that Cheney knew about the flight approaching when it was 50 miles from the Pentagon, and not a single alarm went off.  When the flight was within 10 miles from the Pentagon, a young man asked Cheney "Does the order still stand?"  And Cheney responded "Of course the order still stands, have you heard anything to the contrary?"  That testimony was not reported by the 9/11 commission.

At 53:45 Ray McGovern said "Norman Mineta was in the bunker with Cheney and the fact that that wasn't in the 9/11 Commission Report was rather odd, don't you think?  And who was that young man?  Did anybody ask who that young man was?"  Then McGovern said "Am I prepared to believe that Dick Cheney would be capable of knowing about this kind of attack on the Pentagon, for example, and allowing it to happen?  Well, from what I know about Dick Cheney, Yeah"

Was there anything conspiratorial about anything Ray McGovern said?

I wished there was more context for what Mineta said and for what McGovern said (why did McGovern say "for example"?)


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