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OfflineMorel Guy
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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26333971 - 11/20/19 04:39 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

most politicians must be corrupt because that's politics.  Corruption means different things to different people.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26334005 - 11/20/19 05:02 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

i wish zelinskys goofy ass would start tweeting

and get him on JRE

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26334028 - 11/20/19 05:13 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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feldman114 said:
The official condition on which all US aid to Ukraine is predicted: take steps to stop systematic corruption.
The real condition: help Trump corrupt an election system.

I’d be confused AF if I was Zelensky...



Or possibly this:

The officialRepublican's condition on which all US aid to Ukraine is predicted: take steps to stop systematic corruption.
The realDemocrat's condition: help Trump corrupt an election system.

:shrug:



Trump wasn’t interested in systemic corruption despite what he says. He was only interested in Biden and crowdstike - the only corruption on his agenda.

Pretty much your personal agenda as well


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26334035 - 11/20/19 05:18 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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cannabinated said:
i wish zelinskys goofy ass would start tweeting

and get him on JRE




Zelensky cant say anything negative about trump because trump is still president. That’s one of the most fucked up part of this story is how trump went out of the way to fuck with the Ukraine and zelensky has no choice but to smile and ignore it.

Trump treats people based on how nice and praising they are of hkm, not based on their merits.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26334039 - 11/20/19 05:19 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

you know all hes doing right now is not ignoring it

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26334041 - 11/20/19 05:20 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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I just think I'm able to see all sides better than some, especially koods, who appears to be an all out establishment shill.




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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26334044 - 11/20/19 05:22 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Lol ok boomer


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26334067 - 11/20/19 05:31 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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I personally think Trump and Biden are both corrupt.




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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26334072 - 11/20/19 05:34 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I love how you guys talk as if you know all the details of everything and how everyone involved in this thinks.

You guys are materializing a storyline that fits your narrative.

None of you guys were there.
None of you guys know what happened behind closed doors
None of you guys knows what was said behind closed doors.

And yet.  You post in this thread as if you know what you're talking about.

It's very entertaining. Keep going.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Patlal]
    #26334092 - 11/20/19 05:40 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: koods]
    #26334094 - 11/20/19 05:40 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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cannabinated said:
i wish zelinskys goofy ass would start tweeting

and get him on JRE




Zelensky cant say anything negative about trump because trump is still president. That’s one of the most fucked up part of this story is how trump went out of the way to fuck with the Ukraine and zelensky has no choice but to smile and ignore it.

Trump treats people based on how nice and praising they are of hkm, not based on their merits.





Exactly!
Not enough people are talking about this super important point.
President Zelensky had NO choice but to lie to the public about pressure from Trump because otherwise he would look extremely weak.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #26334105 - 11/20/19 05:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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I love how you guys talk as if you know all the details of everything...




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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Morel Guy]
    #26334108 - 11/20/19 05:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I love conspiracy theories where most of the population are the conspirators lol. The government, media, Hollywood, Jews, black people, mainstream people - who ISN’T out to get you man?
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most politicians must be corrupt because that's politics.  Corruption means different things to different people.



This mindset is at the core of Ukrainian corruption. Until the Honor Revolution, 99% of Ukrainians would agree that all politicians cheat in elections and all cops take bribes.

That’s not the case though.
Think back to the 70’s police departments and how dirty they were. All it took was an independent Internal Affairs, a pay increase, and some ethics training - try bribing a cop today...
We just need to overhaul the electoral system in the same ways - trash the electoral college, make all political donations transparent & the info accessible,  and maybe get rid of the 2-party ultimatum.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #26334115 - 11/20/19 05:46 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Patlal said:
I love how you guys talk as if you know all the details of everything and how everyone involved in this thinks.

You guys are materializing a storyline that fits your narrative.

None of you guys were there.
None of you guys know what happened behind closed doors
None of you guys knows what was said behind closed doors.

And yet.  You post in this thread as if you know what you're talking about.

It's very entertaining. Keep going.




But...I mean people did hear it...same people now testifying about what they heard...under oath.

I wasn’t at the Watergate, but I’m pretty sure Nixon bugged it🤷🏻‍♂️

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: feldman114]
    #26334126 - 11/20/19 05:52 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

LMAO  its so blatant

trump said it himself and then hides behind guiliani

why is guiliani even there if not only to serve as a buffer of hazardous information

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: cannabinated] * 2
    #26334139 - 11/20/19 05:56 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

This is my absolute favorite photo from the Impeachment Inquiry. Ambassador Gordon Sondland's expression looking like "Hey America, You like that shit? You enjoying the show?":


Too fuckin classic! :awebig:

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #26334147 - 11/20/19 05:59 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

cannabinated said:
i wish zelinskys goofy ass would start tweeting

and get him on JRE




Zelensky cant say anything negative about trump because trump is still president. That’s one of the most fucked up part of this story is how trump went out of the way to fuck with the Ukraine and zelensky has no choice but to smile and ignore it.

Trump treats people based on how nice and praising they are of hkm, not based on their merits.





Exactly!
Not enough people are talking about this super important point.
President Zelensky had NO choice but to lie to the public about pressure from Trump because otherwise he would look extremely weak.




The incumbent he pushed out of office ran as the “strong” candidate. He ran as the anti-corruption crusader.
He also has a full majority - the equivalent of one US party controlling Congress, Senate, WH and Supreme Court - which makes him anything but weak. Not to mention the highest approval rating of any of his predecessors.

He had a choice. He chose to play shady politics. THEN the shit started hitting the fan.

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26334149 - 11/20/19 06:01 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

he loves the attention

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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: Patlal]
    #26334151 - 11/20/19 06:01 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
I love how you guys talk as if you know all the details of everything and how everyone involved in this thinks.

You guys are materializing a storyline that fits your narrative.

None of you guys were there.
None of you guys know what happened behind closed doors
None of you guys knows what was said behind closed doors.

And yet.  You post in this thread as if you know what you're talking about.

It's very entertaining. Keep going.




Enjoy talking shit?

This doesn't involve maple syrup nor hockey.


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Re: Impeachment Hearings Chat [Re: feldman114]
    #26334217 - 11/20/19 06:21 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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feldman114 said:
The incumbent he pushed out of office ran as the “strong” candidate. He ran as the anti-corruption crusader.
He also has a full majority - the equivalent of one US party controlling Congress, Senate, WH and Supreme Court - which makes him anything but weak. Not to mention the highest approval rating of any of his predecessors.

He had a choice. He chose to play shady politics. THEN the shit started hitting the fan.




Zelensky had no choice because if he didn't play ball, he'd lose US support. Not just materially, but symbolically. This would end very badly for Ukraine, which is at this point basically in a war.

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