Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   North Spore Injection Grain Bag   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   OlympusMyco.com Olympus Myco Polypropylene Grow Bags   Bridgetown Botanicals Bridgetown Botanicals

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Offlinejaydeezy817
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/15/17
Posts: 91
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Agar sterilization with no pc?
    #26308790 - 11/09/19 08:40 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Can i sterilize my lme agar with no pc? Cant i let the water boil under the jar n a closed pot for 2 hours?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTormatoMFacebookDiscordReddit
The Goddess Kali Meh 😛
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 6,068
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: jaydeezy817]
    #26308817 - 11/09/19 08:58 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

jaydeezy817 said:
Can i sterilize my lme agar with no pc? Cant i let the water boil under the jar n a closed pot for 2 hours?



You can steam sterilize agar without a PC, I'd say 30-45 mins should do the trick. 2 hours just seems way too long.


--------------------
Helpful Threads

The Shroomery Store

Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me!

"Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead

Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSpunkyMonkey88
Stranger
Male


Registered: 10/08/19
Posts: 1,331
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: Tormato] * 1
    #26308879 - 11/09/19 09:38 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Just get a PC bro, like everyone says just go find a cheap one at the thrift store... I always just let that go in one ear and out the other and I bought a new huge 22qt anyways but then this last weekend I was out shopping at the thrift store and i looked out of curiosity and they seriously had maybe 10 different PCs they were smaller but still doable just would have to do a few more batches...

Anyways the big ass PC I got was still damn well worth it! I love it!

Ok so say you get away with out PCing your agar, then u get a clean culture... then what ate your gonna do with it? U plan on using grains dont u? Those NEED to be PCed... just my 2 cents

PCers are game changers...

Edited by SpunkyMonkey88 (11/09/19 09:40 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAntigov
Male


Registered: 03/17/19
Posts: 792
Loc: Deep within the BibleBelt Flag
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26308881 - 11/09/19 09:41 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

SpunkyMonkey88 said:
Just get a PC bro, like everyone says just go find a cheap one at the thrift store... I always just let that go in one ear and out the other and I bought a huge 22qt and this last weekend I was at the thrift store and they seriously had maybe 10 different PCs they were smaller but still doable just would have to do a few more batches...

Anyways the big ass PC I got was still damn well worth it! I love it!

Ok so say you get away with out PCing your agar, then u get a clean culture... then what ate your gonna do with it? U plan on using grains dont u? Those NEED to be PCed... just my 2 cent

PCers are game changers...




:whathesaid:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTormatoMFacebookDiscordReddit
The Goddess Kali Meh 😛
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 6,068
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26308968 - 11/09/19 10:31 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

SpunkyMonkey88 said:
U plan on using grains dont u? Those NEED to be PCed... just my 2 cents




Not true....people steam sterilize grains all the time.

A PC is certainly preferred, but to answer OP's question directly it can all be done without a PC  :2cents:


--------------------
Helpful Threads

The Shroomery Store

Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me!

"Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead

Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejaydeezy817
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/15/17
Posts: 91
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: Tormato]
    #26308970 - 11/09/19 10:31 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the reassurance

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejaydeezy817
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 11/15/17
Posts: 91
Last seen: 3 years, 1 month
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26308971 - 11/09/19 10:34 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

SpunkyMonkey88 said:
Just get a PC bro, like everyone says just go find a cheap one at the thrift store... I always just let that go in one ear and out the other and I bought a new huge 22qt anyways but then this last weekend I was out shopping at the thrift store and i looked out of curiosity and they seriously had maybe 10 different PCs they were smaller but still doable just would have to do a few more batches...

Anyways the big ass PC I got was still damn well worth it! I love it!

Ok so say you get away with out PCing your agar, then u get a clean culture... then what ate your gonna do with it? U plan on using grains dont u? Those NEED to be PCed... just my 2 cents

PCers are game changers...




You are absolutely right bro. I just cant find any at the thrift stores around me. The ones i find online are either too small or way too expensive. But you are 100% correct. I do need one if i want to step up my mycology.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTormatoMFacebookDiscordReddit
The Goddess Kali Meh 😛
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 6,068
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: jaydeezy817]
    #26308974 - 11/09/19 10:35 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

jaydeezy817 said:
You are absolutely right bro. I just cant find any at the thrift stores around me. The ones i find online are either too small or way too expensive. But you are 100% correct. I do need one if i want to step up my mycology.



A 23qt Presto is budget friendly and can be found on Amazon. Works well too! :thumbup:


--------------------
Helpful Threads

The Shroomery Store

Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me!

"Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead

Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineDoyledozo
Humble student
Male


Registered: 10/22/19
Posts: 156
Last seen: 1 year, 20 days
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: Tormato]
    #26309001 - 11/09/19 10:50 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

My 23q presto is on its way from amazon. Very affordable. Up to this point ive been stuck with a 6q instant pot. Also found a deydrarator for cheap. Its all coming together now.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSpunkyMonkey88
Stranger
Male


Registered: 10/08/19
Posts: 1,331
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: Tormato]
    #26309009 - 11/09/19 10:54 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Tormato said:
Quote:

SpunkyMonkey88 said:
U plan on using grains dont u? Those NEED to be PCed... just my 2 cents




Not true....people steam sterilize grains all the time.


A PC is certainly preferred, but to answer OP's question directly it can all be done without a PC  :2cents:





Let me refrase...  if you want consistently sterile jars of grain, you need to PC...

If you want to have a bunch of jars fail consistently (with some lucky exceptions) you should definitely steam your grains...

You could also poop in a Mason jar and injoculate with MS... it CAN be done but I probably wouldn't.... if you looking for what you "should" do, not what you can do...you should get a PC... end of story

Edited by SpunkyMonkey88 (11/09/19 11:07 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineblackout
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 5,266
Last seen: 7 months, 18 days
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26309039 - 11/09/19 11:09 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

SpunkyMonkey88 said:

If you want to have a bunch of jars fail consistently (with some lucky exceptions) you should definitely steam your grains...




RogerRabbit ran a successful mushroom farm that used steamed grains.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleTormatoMFacebookDiscordReddit
The Goddess Kali Meh 😛
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/01/17
Posts: 6,068
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: blackout]
    #26309048 - 11/09/19 11:14 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

blackout said:
Quote:

SpunkyMonkey88 said:

If you want to have a bunch of jars fail consistently (with some lucky exceptions) you should definitely steam your grains...




RogerRabbit ran a successful mushroom farm that used steamed grains.



Yep! Brian Callow at What the Fungus is another one that runs a farm on steam sterilization. :thumbup:


--------------------
Helpful Threads

The Shroomery Store

Tormato's Q&A Thread Post Questions Here or PM me!

"Lately it occurs to me what a long, strange trip it's been." ~ Grateful Dead

Before you start...Do you have a Pressure Cooker and a Dehydrator? I highly recommend getting both!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSpunkyMonkey88
Stranger
Male


Registered: 10/08/19
Posts: 1,331
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: blackout]
    #26309053 - 11/09/19 11:17 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

blackout said:
Quote:

SpunkyMonkey88 said:

If you want to have a bunch of jars fail consistently (with some lucky exceptions) you should definitely steam your grains...




RogerRabbit ran a successful mushroom farm that used steamed grains.




I admittedly am not familiar with his work... but I'm willing to bet that for that one successful story there are many more that ended in failure.

This debate will never be put to rest, but one thing that cannot be argued is that PC are more effective at killing shit....

Edited by SpunkyMonkey88 (11/09/19 11:19 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinecronicrFacebook
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 61,436
Loc: Van Isle Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26309069 - 11/09/19 11:30 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Naw a pc is how we do it as a hobby.
A steamer can be built to run 100 qts or more and steamed for 8 hours with 100% success, this would have taken over 24 hours with a pc.


--------------------

It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn

I'm tired do me a favor

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSpunkyMonkey88
Stranger
Male


Registered: 10/08/19
Posts: 1,331
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: cronicr]
    #26309106 - 11/09/19 11:46 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

cronicr said:
Naw a pc is how we do it as a hobby.
A steamer can be built to run 100 qts or more and steamed for 8 hours with 100% success, this would have taken over 24 hours with a pc.




I knew I was missing something.... ok but who the hell wants to steam grains for 8hrs? And how u gonna do that with out stopping and refilling the pot with water?

I'm assuming a steamer built for mushroom cultivation is made to constantly steam for those 8 hrs...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineChardRich
chardzard
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 04/16/19
Posts: 1,167
Loc: Upper Left USA
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: blackout]
    #26309112 - 11/09/19 11:48 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

blackout said:
Quote:

SpunkyMonkey88 said:

If you want to have a bunch of jars fail consistently (with some lucky exceptions) you should definitely steam your grains...




RogerRabbit ran a successful mushroom farm that used steamed grains.




You could write a book by hand....

Or you could type it :shrug:


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBorisTBD
Jr. Mycologists
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/02/19
Posts: 156
Last seen: 5 months, 10 days
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: cronicr]
    #26309113 - 11/09/19 11:48 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

SpunkyMonkey88 said:
Quote:

Tormato said:
Quote:

SpunkyMonkey88 said:
U plan on using grains dont u? Those NEED to be PCed... just my 2 cents




Not true....people steam sterilize grains all the time.


A PC is certainly preferred, but to answer OP's question directly it can all be done without a PC  :2cents:





Let me refrase...  if you want consistently sterile jars of grain, you need to PC...

If you want to have a bunch of jars fail consistently (with some lucky exceptions) you should definitely steam your grains...

You could also poop in a Mason jar and injoculate with MS... it CAN be done but I probably wouldn't.... if you looking for what you "should" do, not what you can do...you should get a PC... end of story




:typonese:
Quote:

cronicr said:
Naw a pc is how we do it as a hobby.
A steamer can be built to run 100 qts or more and steamed for 8 hours with 100% success, this would have taken over 24 hours with a pc.



:typingdog:  :goodshit:


--------------------
Avi: Why do they call him the bullet dodger?
Tony: Because he dodges bullets Avi!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineteladi
FUNKSOULBROTHER

Registered: 06/27/17
Posts: 1,189
Loc: South Africa Flag
Last seen: 10 months, 16 days
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: SpunkyMonkey88]
    #26309124 - 11/09/19 11:52 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

RR has a build log for a steam steriliser http://www.mushroomvideos.com/55-Gallon-Drum-Sterilizer. Also Google steam generator.

OP, yes you can, but it needs to go for a while. Pick a time to steam. Make a few controls, and leave them for a few weeks. If stuff grows on them, then you're steaming for too short.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineA2Cultures
Stranger
Registered: 03/03/24
Posts: 1
Last seen: 8 days, 9 hours
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: Tormato]
    #28684777 - 03/03/24 07:33 AM (3 months, 22 days ago)

22 qt pc amazon 80 bucks

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCosmikktraveler
Curious Psychonaut
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/26/22
Posts: 256
Re: Agar sterilization with no pc? [Re: A2Cultures]
    #28684791 - 03/03/24 08:01 AM (3 months, 22 days ago)

Nice 4 years bump just for saying nothing

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   North Spore Injection Grain Bag   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   MagicBag.co All-In-One Bags That Don't Suck   Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   OlympusMyco.com Olympus Myco Polypropylene Grow Bags   Bridgetown Botanicals Bridgetown Botanicals


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Tightening lids before sterilizing (PC) KlingonFromUranus 1,998 6 05/06/06 04:55 PM
by FeedYourBrain
* Grain-water agar plates not even growing mold? RonnyBoy 142 0 03/03/24 04:42 AM
by RonnyBoy
* sterilizing agar W/O a pc staindblue 1,742 2 07/06/02 07:36 AM
by staindblue
* agar
( 1 2 all )
mikearch 2,366 21 10/05/02 01:52 PM
by mikearch
* Who uses an Alcahol soaked rag over pc in cooldown?
( 1 2 all )
Gr0wer 3,305 20 05/07/04 12:00 AM
by Ref
* Sterilization Question Infadel 2,029 9 10/15/01 12:28 PM
by blackout
* agar/peroxide conc. iudexk 1,341 1 08/27/01 01:17 PM
by jonnyshaggs420
* Preparing Agar Indubitableness 1,322 4 11/30/03 05:40 PM
by Indubitableness

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
1,810 topic views. 21 members, 93 guests and 114 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.024 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 12 queries.