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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#28554675 - 11/24/23 06:27 AM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Negative points balls.
We're shipping you off to Japan.
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Apparently you haven't seen the clips of Biden talking about the man on the moon and shit. He literally just starts incoherently rambling about shit that is totally unrelated to the questions asked him. I mean... I know you probably won't watch it, because it's hard to watch, but I could show you clips of Biden that make it incontrovertibly clear that he is much further down the road of cognitive decline than Trump.
Biden wouldn't be able to sit and do an hour and a half long interview, like the ones Trump is doing, and answer every question in a coherent manner. Now, I'm not saying Trump isn't slipping, but I haven't seen anything remotely close to Biden. The fact that anyone is comparing these two blows my mind. They are not comparable.
Trump has always been a bloviating retard. He always will be.
If you disagree with me, lets wait til the presidential debates. It's going to be a straight shit show, if Biden has to debate anyone. Period. That's why they changed the rules of the primary, to prevent anyone from running against him. Democrats would rather have Trump in office than have a Democrat who is committed to real change.
Post the videos dude. With context please, not some super cut nonsense that is designed to make it appear a certain way. I am interested in watching them.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Ice9]
#28554827 - 11/24/23 09:58 AM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Ice9 said: Post the videos dude. With context please, not some super cut nonsense that is designed to make it appear a certain way. I am interested in watching them.
Alright. If you're legit interested, I will do that. Just give me a little bit, I'm working on an unexpected project right now that's quite a bit over my head...
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#28554830 - 11/24/23 10:03 AM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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ballsalsa said: Gotta nuke something 

Of course... And the obvious answer is:
Nuke Washington... Duuuh!
    
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Kryptos said: People keep saying Biden is in serious mental decline, but he really doesn't seem like it. Seems pretty slight, actually. His opponent for the presidency, on the other hand, seems like he's in serious mental decline. That dude's raving about shit that never happened.
Apparently you haven't seen the clips of Biden talking about the man on the moon and shit. He literally just starts incoherently rambling about shit that is totally unrelated to the questions asked him. I mean... I know you probably won't watch it, because it's hard to watch, but I could show you clips of Biden that make it incontrovertibly clear that he is much further down the road of cognitive decline than Trump.
Biden wouldn't be able to sit and do an hour and a half long interview, like the ones Trump is doing, and answer every question in a coherent manner. Now, I'm not saying Trump isn't slipping, but I haven't seen anything remotely close to Biden. The fact that anyone is comparing these two blows my mind. They are not comparable.
Trump has always been a bloviating retard. He always will be.
If you disagree with me, lets wait til the presidential debates. It's going to be a straight shit show, if Biden has to debate anyone. Period. That's why they changed the rules of the primary, to prevent anyone from running against him. Democrats would rather have Trump in office than have a Democrat who is committed to real change.
I watched some of his testimony in the trial. Trump bloviates off topic and never actually answers the question.
Biden goes on weird old-timey analogies. Trump just starts ranting about democrats and Obama and how we should kill anyone that doesn't support him.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos]
#28555055 - 11/24/23 02:09 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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I'm still waiting on the videos woooof promised. Glad I wasn't holding my breath in anticipation.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Ice9] 1
#28555091 - 11/24/23 02:40 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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I've watched Biden speeches. He's absolutely not the equivalent of a 30 year old, but he's in better shape, mentally and physically, than the vast majority of 80 year olds. By a fairly significant margin. He is not a demented old fool.
I will also say that Trump is in better shape than some 80 year olds. But if I had to compare the two, he's in much worse mental and physical shape than Biden.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Ice9]
#28555096 - 11/24/23 02:48 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Ice9 said: I'm still waiting on the videos woooof promised. Glad I wasn't holding my breath in anticipation.
This is the man on the moon gaffe,
There are countless gaffes he's done. Mitch McConnell had his 2 stroke like appearances and Diane Feinstein is clearly senile.
A lot of senior politicians have shown signs of mental decline, Biden isn't immune from that.
Biden and trump are both senile in their own respects. Can't attack one or defend one without doing the same to the other.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: sudly]
#28555121 - 11/24/23 03:14 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Isn't Feinstein dead?
Edit: that's not really a gaffe. That's the old timey analogies that I was talking about in my previous post.
"If your kids want to find out about the man on the moon, or..." That was definitely on of those 80s-isms, referring to a half moon appearing to have a face. Like how the moon is made of cheese, or whatever.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos]
#28555124 - 11/24/23 03:15 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Finkle is Feinstein?
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos]
#28555126 - 11/24/23 03:17 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Yeah she is, but before then some were still attempting to deny her senile decline.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: sudly] 1
#28555128 - 11/24/23 03:19 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Ice9 said: I'm still waiting on the videos woooof promised. Glad I wasn't holding my breath in anticipation.
This is the man on the moon gaffe,
There are countless gaffes he's done. Mitch McConnell had his 2 stroke like appearances and Diane Feinstein is clearly senile.
A lot of senior politicians have shown signs of mental decline, Biden isn't immune from that.
Biden and trump are both senile in their own respects. Can't attack one or defend one without doing the same to the other.
Biden was notorious for verbal gaffes 40 years ago, I fail to see how this indicates decline in the way some people present it as. Based on most octogenarians I have known, Biden is quite a bit more acute them. Whether you want any 80 year old in the presidents office if different than specifically saying Biden has dementia (he doesn't, its insulting to people who have dealt with dementia to pretend this is the case to score political points)
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Ice9] 1
#28555145 - 11/24/23 03:34 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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He's clearly become more senile over time whether or not he actually has dementia.
Frankly it's one of his greatest weaknesses right now and his decline in polling is ringing alarm bells among his teams.
If you fail to see how his modern gaffes indicate mental decline then that's on you.
It isn't going away regardless of the blinders people want to wear.
I think it's dishonest or st the very least an attempt to mischaracterise his current behaviour by pointing to gaffes from 40 years ago, pull up videos or quotes of those and put them side by side with what he's doing now and your point will be mute.
He's still a smart and capable man, I'm not denying it, even Trump in his own way is, but we can't deny that at a certain point age plays a role in cognitive decline.
We can debate to what extent it will effect his future, but not that there's genuine concern over his current cognitive state.
In 4 years time do you think he will become sharper and have less gaffes? If not, you've already acknowledged the problem.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: sudly] 1
#28555152 - 11/24/23 03:42 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Again, people here have been claiming he has dementia, and using his verbal gaffes as evidence. Not me, but that is what is being pushed. If we want to have a discussion of a maximum age for a president, well that is not what is happening here. As such, I was hoping to see videos of a dementia patient Biden, instead I see normal 80 year old Biden, and think to myself, oh that seems kind of bad in isolation, but in the context of a larger discussion with that one incident, meh. I have seen Biden talk for 30 minutes continuously with no obvious rambling, stuttering, etc. Instead what you present was precisely what I asked not be presented, a single clip with no context. I can snip single quotes from your posts that would make you look like a dementia patient in isolation as well, just saying.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Ice9] 1
#28555163 - 11/24/23 03:55 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Dementia is the extreme example and only known by Biden's close medical support.
His mental decline is apparent to anyone who listens to him. He has a lot of stress and pressure as president, but I don't see his cognitive behaviour as normal, it clearly indicates some degree of mental decline to me.
With that one incident? The moon thing was from years ago, in context of the speeches he has given, there are dozens if not hundreds of gaffes by now.
From his current term as president, there are plenty of examples. Unless you want to hear each speech in its entirety, then one minute clips showcasing his cognitive decline are all you'll get.
His gaffes are out of context to the speeches he's presenting.
I'm not giving speeches as president, and would love to see you try to quote anything I've said as indicative of continual cognitive decline.
The moon clip was the context, the context showing his cognitive decline as far back as 2021.
If he gives a 10 minute speech and only has one minute of non contextual gaffes, that's a low standard for president.
To talk about his gaffes as a single incident is incredibly dishonest.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Ice9]
#28555280 - 11/24/23 05:23 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Ice9 said: Again, people here have been claiming he has dementia, and using his verbal gaffes as evidence. Not me, but that is what is being pushed. If we want to have a discussion of a maximum age for a president, well that is not what is happening here. As such, I was hoping to see videos of a dementia patient Biden, instead I see normal 80 year old Biden, and think to myself, oh that seems kind of bad in isolation, but in the context of a larger discussion with that one incident, meh. I have seen Biden talk for 30 minutes continuously with no obvious rambling, stuttering, etc. Instead what you present was precisely what I asked not be presented, a single clip with no context. I can snip single quotes from your posts that would make you look like a dementia patient in isolation as well, just saying.
That clip was pulled from an interview with Don Lemon at the beginning of his presidency. You should watch the Q and A at the end of that interview, where Biden is continuously rambling in his answers, and Don Lemon has to keep reminding him what the question is. This is 3 years ago, mind you.
It's actually harder than you think to find clips that give the full context, without watching the entire thing. I do intend to compile some of the best clips I can find, and compare them to Biden even 10 years ago... There's a clear difference.
As I said though, I've been busy today. You know, when I watch these clips, I remember the full context, because with many of them, I've watched the whole interview, or speech, or whatever. But as I've said, it's not necessarily easy to find clips that show all of that.
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I do agree it is harder to find full clips than it is to find a 30 second sound bite. I think that says a lot about us lol. That said, I still fail to see this "decline" that is anything beyond what we would expect from an 80yo. I've watched whole speeches and he's fine.
My point here, Biden is not unique for an octogenarian, if anything he is higher functioning than the average. Given that fact, and the fact that there is no maximum age to be president, I just do not see these clips as showing what everyone else thinks they show, which is presumably someone who has such severe cognitive decline as to be a danger as president. seems like politics as usual and that has always been very effective on some people.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Ice9]
#28555748 - 11/25/23 07:43 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Biden is controllable at his current cognitive level, and probably would be after further decline for a few years. That's the only encouraging thing I can think of, other than running against Trump.
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