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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26553907 - 03/23/20 08:12 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm just wondering. I think Bernie is the best candidate, and I would give my vote to him well before Biden. But, let's say Biden is the one on the ticket. Would you all rather be able to say that you didn't vote for Biden, or vote Trump out of office? Should the perfect be the enemy of the good?




get the privilege of looking at this as a Canadian not casting a vote
but Biden red flags my triggers when he gets around kids
and think my disgust with potentially discovering to have voted in support of a child abuser would weigh more heavily on my conscience
than abstaining from voting and then having to fight as a guerilla rebel against a Hitler-esque democratically elected totalitarian reign

the gross part is that of the two, Biden being discovered as a child abuser is more likely than Trump getting around the apparatuses of split government power designed to mitigate such a grab for control
as most recently demonstrated by the low likelihood of the department of justice receiving authorization to void citizen rights

sure, it is entirely possible that Trump or even Bernie are child abusers who are good at hiding their transgressions
and Biden is just innocent and weird
but, again, it comes to the vehement red flagging that exists for me -- to ignore it and be wrong would weigh more on my conscience
than having no indications and then finding out something terrible about a candidate

:shrug:



Trump was one of those guys who used to hang out woth Epstein. They all run in the same circles. Joes is just too old and senile to cover up his creepiness at this point.




Yeah, but Trump has always struck me as having been too caught up in Ivanka to have fiddled with others through her age range
like he had an illusion of love causing a fixation

would still be totally grossed out if Ivanka came out with a tell-all after his death
but kind of figuring Melania kept him in line -- or, rather, kept her isolated from him in vulnerable circumstances

but yeah just speaking as a victim of abuse
to suffer reprecussions after knowingly ignoring red flags
is experientially different, and has more of a haunting and self-blaming psychological effect,
than not having flags develop in the first place

plus, am not saying my vote would go to Trump,
just that such a scenario would result in me doing a write-in or not being motivated to vote
whereas actually support Bernie as a candidate

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Tantrika]
    #26553927 - 03/23/20 08:24 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Here comes the Joepedo!!


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26554106 - 03/23/20 09:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Do you think it would do more harm than another four years of Trump? Forget TDS; he's not exactly been great for the country. Look at our preparedness for a pandemic.



I wonder what Joe would have done differently?  It's a HUGE deal to ask the entire country to shelter in place, especially before shit hits the fan.  :shrug:

Sure, it's possible Biden would have asked private companies to ramp up respirator and test production sooner, but Presidents can't really dictate what private companies do unless they take drastic measures, like invoke the Defense Production Act, which Trump has already done.

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Trump is the worst president in the history of the republic, but any standard. GWB is now second, which is sad.



I'd give that dishonor to Ronald Reagan, EASILY.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26554149 - 03/23/20 10:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Trump is the worst president in the history of the republic, but any standard. GWB is now second, which is sad.




I'd give that dishonor to Ronald Reagan, EASILY.





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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #26554162 - 03/23/20 10:31 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm just wondering. I think Bernie is the best candidate, and I would give my vote to him well before Biden. But, let's say Biden is the one on the ticket. Would you all rather be able to say that you didn't vote for Biden, or vote Trump out of office? Should the perfect be the enemy of the good?




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perfect should not be the enemy of good but neither should that argument be used as often as it is to justify not rising to meet the moment.  If we always fall for it, we'll continue our downward slide.





You've summed it up very well IMO, ballz.

Plus, while donnie has been a terrible president, he's been terrible in an embarrassing way for the most part (I said for the most part).  But, to be sure, donnie hasn't nearly been terrible in a ronnie (raygun) sort of way.

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: relic] * 4
    #26554202 - 03/23/20 11:20 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Reagan has been President for 40 years.  It has to stop sometime.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #26554253 - 03/24/20 12:30 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

One can hope, eh?

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #26554491 - 03/24/20 06:13 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Reagan has been President for 40 years.  It has to stop sometime.



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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26554525 - 03/24/20 06:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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Do you think it would do more harm than another four years of Trump? Forget TDS; he's not exactly been great for the country. Look at our preparedness for a pandemic.



I wonder what Joe would have done differently?  It's a HUGE deal to ask the entire country to shelter in place, especially before shit hits the fan.  :shrug:

Sure, it's possible Biden would have asked private companies to ramp up respirator and test production sooner, but Presidents can't really dictate what private companies do unless they take drastic measures, like invoke the Defense Production Act, which Trump has already done.

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Trump is the worst president in the history of the republic, but any standard. GWB is now second, which is sad.



I'd give that dishonor to Ronald Reagan, EASILY.




It is a huge deal to ask the country to shelter in place, which is why trump has completely failed to lead in a damn thing and left everything up to the governors.

I know for a fact that Biden wouldn’t have spent two months pretending that nothing bad was gong to happen. He wouldn’t have ignored testing becasue tests would just make the numbers look bad. Trump has failed over and over and now we are paying the price. We could have actually prevented Much of this economic pain with competent leadership. I know for a fact that almost anyone would have done a better job than trump.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26554536 - 03/24/20 07:04 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1239200647616004096?s=20

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The right to vote is the most sacred American right there is. State election officials are working closely with public health officials to hold safe elections. If you are feeling healthy, not showing symptoms, and not at risk of being exposed to COVID-19: please vote on Tuesday.




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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26554555 - 03/24/20 07:16 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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I know for a fact that almost anyone would have done a better job than trump.



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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26554563 - 03/24/20 07:23 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah it is actually. He’s a totally incompetent sociopath. If you think there’s no difference between him and Biden, you ain’t thinking straight.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods] * 4
    #26554592 - 03/24/20 07:37 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

If you dont think Biden is a totally incompetent sociopath, you aint thinking straight. The one and single only reason that you give a fraction of a fraction of a fuck about that dementia-ridden corporate puppet creep is because you hate Trump so much. You are at the forefront of the 'bend over and take it' culture that has permeated American society and left us 'settling' at best for every fucking president since this bullshit system was shat out. It is no less than unethical to even participate in American politics anymore because we are all complacent in its boot-to-neck structure. We're fucked from day one. The best thing that could happen to humanity would be a time warp that sends us back to being neanderthaals and try to start from scratch again.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26554594 - 03/24/20 07:41 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah that’s a completely unhinged analysis. No point in arguing with people in such an irrational state. Good luck with the Biden Derangement Syndrome.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Tantrika]
    #26554601 - 03/24/20 07:46 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

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For real tho, has Joe Biden been running on anything other than "I'm Joe Biden" and "Let's beat Trump"?

maybe my problem is getting my information via memes
but was able to find out Bernie, Yang, and Warren's policy positions through people discussing them in popular forums
but the only thing people discuss about Joe is the creepy fondling of children that prevents me from ever advising anyone to vote for him
and him senile yelling strange phrases at people

is there anything in his platform to excite US citizens?  Does he have a policy for Universal Health Care?




No. That pretty well covers it. I think he will push an Obama style healthcare plan; better than nothing and better than Trump, but more backward looking than forward.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26554619 - 03/24/20 07:57 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

At least bernie would have the chance to advance legislation with a democratic president. But sanders people want it all or nothing. There’s just something about this generation I don’t get. At least they don’t have much electoral power.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods] * 2
    #26554624 - 03/24/20 07:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

I dont understand the previous generations unrivaled ability to pussy around for decades getting assfucked and not do much more than say 'owie, maybe the next guy wont ram as hard'


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Near Dylan] * 2
    #26554637 - 03/24/20 08:06 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Hey it’s more your future than mine. You’re the one that’s gonna be stuck with a conservative judiciary for a generation that has been purposely designed to benefit corporate interests. Go ahead let them rule over you until they die about the time you reach my age and you won’t be able to do shit about it cause they are there for life. All because you were too butthurt your guy didn’t get the nod. 🤦‍♂️


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods]
    #26554652 - 03/24/20 08:14 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

Corporations aren't perfect, but they do make everything we own.
What industries are the bad ones?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 2
    #26554684 - 03/24/20 08:32 AM (4 years, 1 month ago)

You dont think corporations have a larger effect than 'making what we own'?


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