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Psilynut2 said: There’s no real hand to hand defense against a knife attack dude . It’s extremely difficult to stop the stabbing motion without being stabbed .
I've been in a few fights against people armed with knives, you're wrong that there's no defense (not that it's easy - or lacks risk) but you're right in that you should expect to get cut to some degree, - I've managed to disarm without getting cut too bad each time.
A straight stabbing motion is much easier to counter more often than slashes. They're 1) making their motion predictable 2) putting their weapon furthest from their body where they have the least amount of control and strength to resist counters.
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Ovoidhunter said: Obviously it'll do no good to argue with you so I digress. Have fun getting mugged and having your corpse jerked off upon by the neighborhood hobos. All because your to good to carry a gun. Lol
Derpity derp 
You sound unreasonably afraid of the world, and way too overconfident in the self defense ability a gun gives you 
Statistics show that most attacks are launched within 3 feet. You're going to have near 0 chance that your gun is going to save you. I'm not saying that a hand to hand defense is the easiest thing to pull off. But I'm saying it's realistically either that, surrender, or running. If you're really lucky there will be some environmental weapons nearby to help you out.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead] 1
#26531428 - 03/12/20 05:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well let's meet out in an open field and I'll give you your 21 feet of space and we can test your hypothesis. 
Also your right back to square one with the your afraid so you carry a gun shit. Thanks for affirming to me that I won our spat on here. Gooday sir!
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How about instead of moving the goalposts to some goofy unrealistic situation, I hide around a corner and close distance full speed while you're just going about your day unexpecting an assault - since that was the premise of your post
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead]
#26531441 - 03/12/20 05:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ha! That's what I was about to say. Someone would come at him from 21 feet by surprise.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead]
#26531525 - 03/12/20 06:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been in a few fights against people armed with knives, you're wrong that there's no defense (not that it's easy - or lacks risk) but you're right in that you should expect to get cut to some degree, - I've managed to disarm without getting cut too bad each time.
Most likely getting cut is a pretty big risk to take for most people who aren’t good at fighting. That’s most people . Your unique situation or ability is hardly an attainable solution for people past their prime , or almost all women . I’ve known 2 who I think would have a chance but they were training to be professional fighters .
How do you think that would work out for you if your opponent was just as capable as you ?
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead]
#26531589 - 03/12/20 07:26 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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21ft is more than a safe distance. I would take the Pepsi challenge up to half of that distance.. Unless one is a token gun owner, not practing drawing or body ergonomics BEFORE shooting...I would not recommend engagement. Hopefully, it never happens.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Psilynut2] 2
#26531645 - 03/12/20 07:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've been in a few fights against people armed with knives, you're wrong that there's no defense (not that it's easy - or lacks risk) but you're right in that you should expect to get cut to some degree, - I've managed to disarm without getting cut too bad each time.
Most likely getting cut is a pretty big risk to take for most people who aren’t good at fighting. That’s most people . Your unique situation or ability is hardly an attainable solution for people past their prime , or almost all women . I’ve known 2 who I think would have a chance but they were training to be professional fighters .
How do you think that would work out for you if your opponent was just as capable as you ?
Probably not good.
But what you do have as an advantage - is that well trained/capable people aren't generally the types to be attacking people out of the blue.
Any situation in which you're being attacked seriously is pretty bad, I'm not saying having a weapon for self-defense is bad, I'm saying that if one is serious about defending yourself that one should be realistic that there's a high chance it may be inaccessible within time, and hopefully have an idea of what is a rational strategy when one isn't.
Anyway didn't mean to be part of derailing this thread about how shitty Biden is.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead]
#26531673 - 03/12/20 08:11 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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twighead said: How about instead of moving the goalposts to some goofy unrealistic situation, I hide around a corner and close distance full speed while you're just going about your day unexpecting an assault - since that was the premise of your post 
What if you're in a bank or gas station and a couple thugs start shooting people? Are you going to use your kung fu in that situation? I've been in martial arts my whole life. I even trained at the American Russian Martial Art Institute. It's a military martial art school and they teach you how to deal with knife and gun attacks. I dont care how much fucking training you've had the chances of you winning a knife fight unarmed is extremely low. You would still be in a better situation if you had a gun! Most police officers aren't very well trained so using them as a example for anything doesn't make sense to me. Even if your odds only increased by 20% if you had a gun then it's still fucking worth it to me! Some of you are fucking out there. To think a gun isn't good for self defense makes you sound like a idiot in my opinion.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead]
#26531682 - 03/12/20 08:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not a Bernie person, but I'd vote for him over biden.
What I find stupid are.YouTube personalities saying Biden is saving the dems from socialism.
I have no respect for anyone that would choose someone that is dieing from a fatal disease over someone that is somewhat unrasonable. The people around him can reason with that.
dementia is a vascular disease. Id be more worried about that then Bernie's medical issue.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Shenmue] 3
#26531706 - 03/12/20 08:24 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're not going to get into a full blown fucking John Wick shoot-out with the group of teenagers robbing your house. Even if they are all armed, I don't really picture a scenario where they all don't start frantically running as soon as a shot pops off. Even criminals aren't typically eager to fight to the death over your wallet and the earrings your wife left on the counter.
I don't really know where I stand on guns to be honest. But I think it's fair to say that the chances of ever reasonably having to use an AR-15 are way too slim to justify having them be produced on a mass scale for civilian use.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Shenmue]
#26531849 - 03/12/20 10:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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twighead said: How about instead of moving the goalposts to some goofy unrealistic situation, I hide around a corner and close distance full speed while you're just going about your day unexpecting an assault - since that was the premise of your post 
What if you're in a bank or gas station and a couple thugs start shooting people? Are you going to use your kung fu in that situation? I've been in martial arts my whole life. I even trained at the American Russian Martial Art Institute. It's a military martial art school and they teach you how to deal with knife and gun attacks. I dont care how much fucking training you've had the chances of you winning a knife fight unarmed is extremely low. You would still be in a better situation if you had a gun! Most police officers aren't very well trained so using them as a example for anything doesn't make sense to me. Even if your odds only increased by 20% if you had a gun then it's still fucking worth it to me! Some of you are fucking out there. To think a gun isn't good for self defense makes you sound like a idiot in my opinion.
Well you already quoted me about moving goal posts, so I don't have to reiterate that.
And I also just said:
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Any situation in which you're being attacked seriously is pretty bad, I'm not saying having a weapon for self-defense is bad, I'm saying that if one is serious about defending yourself that one should be realistic that there's a high chance it may be inaccessible within time, and hopefully have an idea of what is a rational strategy when one isn't.
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specialpeopleclub said: I'm not a Bernie person, but I'd vote for him over biden.
What I find stupid are.YouTube personalities saying Biden is saving the dems from socialism.
I have no respect for anyone that would choose someone that is dieing from a fatal disease over someone that is somewhat unrasonable. The people around him can reason with that.
dementia is a vascular disease. Id be more worried about that then Bernie's medical issue.
Vascular...?
You mean cognitive?
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead]
#26531857 - 03/12/20 10:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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The cognitive decline is related to vascular damage and plaque accumulation.
People with vascular problems such as what happens when you have chronic elevated LDL, or diabetes, increase your risk.
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In some cases, it's vascular - it's not a specific disease other than being cognitive. It could be caused by numerous things.
And yes, I know both of those things - I'd probably hunt with an AR-15, SCAR or whatever scoped M-14 clones they have if I hunted. I don't have much of an opinion on gun control, I'm just saying that the gun is both built for, and good at - killing people - as are others.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead]
#26533389 - 03/13/20 07:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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feldman114 said:
Not like people hunt with it, right? [An AR-15]
Eh, some do. I know a handful that use their AR variants to hunt coyote
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Psilynut2 said: There’s no real hand to hand defense against a knife attack dude . It’s extremely difficult to stop the stabbing motion without being stabbed .
I've been in a few fights against people armed with knives, you're wrong that there's no defense (not that it's easy - or lacks risk) but you're right in that you should expect to get cut to some degree, - I've managed to disarm without getting cut too bad each time.
Yup. I got cut up pretty badly on both forearms even through a heavy leather jacket, the kind one wears to prevent road rash in a motorcycle accident. But I managed to keep my hands uncut...and, in the end, it was the ole 'but you should see the other guy' scenario. (I DID have a buddy who jumped in when he saw me getting sliced and diced, though, so I had that going for me)
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Ovoidhunter said: Obviously it'll do no good to argue with you so I digress. Have fun getting mugged and having your corpse jerked off upon by the neighborhood hobos. All because your to good to carry a gun. Lol
Derpity derp 
That's a weak argument style, man. Super weak.
And it doesnt really fly in this forum, FYI.
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twighead said: You sound unreasonably afraid of the world, and way too overconfident in the self defense ability a gun gives you 
Statistics show that most attacks are launched within 3 feet. You're going to have near 0 chance that your gun is going to save you. I'm not saying that a hand to hand
Yup, again.
I was carrying, illegally concealed, turned a corner and basically walked into the business end of a 38 held by an approx 12 year old kid. The kind of 12 year old kid that has been practicing that move for probably almost half his life.
I had exactly zero chance to do anything about it, much less reach behind me and pull my own 38 from my waist.
The kid got my money but nothing else except a little sweat. Before he got my dough there was a short 10-ish second period where I wondered if I could snatch that revolver from his hand quicker than he could pull the trigger...but then i woke up and handed over the ~ 150$ in my pocket and lived to wonder about the possibilities of snatching his gun a thousand more times since then.
Point is, I had no chance of doing anything meaningful when confronted at less than about 5 feet.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: relic]
#26533431 - 03/13/20 08:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Isn't this thread about joe Biden? I killed this thread.
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No one likes the guy who is kicking Bernie’s ass , they don’t want to talk about him right now .
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specialpeopleclub said: No, most conservatives don't think that. Misinformed lefties think that is how others think.
Why would you think an AR15 is somehow worse then any other semiautomatic rifle? Because it's well designed? do linguini it adds some killing property?
And I've seen the stupid videos claiming it somehow cultures organs in a special way. It's obvious propaganda.
I assure you most conservatives in Canada give zero fucks about owning an ar-15

You think stephen harper types care about assault rifles? 
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Ovoidhunter said: Isn't this thread about joe Biden? I killed this thread.
I think me calling an ar-15 a machine gun stirred the pot a bit
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26537498 - 03/15/20 09:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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this is the dude they think will beat trump
can you guys imagine the commercials like this the trump campaign will air if biden is the guy
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