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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Ran-D]
    #26522295 - 03/07/20 02:12 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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Ran-D said:
God I wish HST was still around for this...



"Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity" -HST
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Who's HST?  Did he ever post to the political forum?



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:hst:



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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26522412 - 03/07/20 03:34 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

damn what was that book called. i swear its relevant. hold on. its by bob woodward

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1988/02/19/us-hunts-american-mr-x-in-pollard-espionage-for-israel/3f165e37-2f71-443f-8444-97c0b039fa74/

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  During the course of the two-year Justice Department inquiry, investigators have established that fund-raising efforts for Israel in the United States were often used to identify pro-Israelis in sensitive positions in the U.S. government. 


hold on..


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26522431 - 03/07/20 03:54 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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MadMuncher said:
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ballsalsa said:
...libertarianism is trash and Ron Paul is a dipshit.



libertarianism as a party or a political concept? why do think that?

this is a very good short article:
https://fee.org/articles/the-political-compass-test/

if i had to label myself itd be something like socialist libertarian but that probably doesnt give the right impression at all.



Be careful with those compasses.  That one only has two outcomes:  Libertarian or Authoritarian

That test said I'm left libertarian, but that's only because I believe in personal freedoms.  I don't believe in corporate freedoms nearly as much, and that's why I don't consider myself anywhere close to a libertarian.



Pretty sure if you valued corporate freedoms more than individual freedoms
it would put you in the libertarian-right quadrant.

Lib-right = tea party
Lib-left = anarchists


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26522448 - 03/07/20 04:08 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

k pretty sure i found it nobody's gonna read it anyway but here https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Veil/Bob-Woodward/9780743274036

highly recommend every single one of bob woodward's books not that anybodys gonna read them
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Bob Woodward, the best investigative reporter in the country, spent six years examining the CIA using hundreds of inside sources and secret documents to paint a picture of the world's largest espionage apparatus. 



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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26522535 - 03/07/20 05:18 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Be careful with those compasses.  That one only has two outcomes:  Libertarian or Authoritarian

That test said I'm left libertarian, but that's only because I believe in personal freedoms.  I don't believe in corporate freedoms nearly as much, and that's why I don't consider myself anywhere close to a libertarian.



Pretty sure if you valued corporate freedoms more than individual freedoms
it would put you in the libertarian-right quadrant.

Lib-right = tea party
Lib-left = anarchists



I'm definitely not libertarian though.  I'm saying the compass was designed to make everyone think they are.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #26522576 - 03/07/20 05:43 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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Who's HST?  Did he ever post to the political forum?




:jonespalm:


sorry Falcon :lol:

I think you would have liked HST



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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Stable Genius]
    #26522826 - 03/07/20 08:19 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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Quote:

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I'm definitely not libertarian though.  I'm saying the compass was designed to make everyone think they are.




ha is that right? i didnt even take the test i thought the article was pretty good though, liked the graphics with famous people examples. there are a ton of different political spectrum models out there.



i think the most accurate model would be a disc or sphere/egg shape

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But some of the other results are very bizarre. First of all, Milton Friedman magically moved. Now he’s very libertarian on social issues, but squishy on economics. Needless to say, that’s nonsense.
But not nearly as nonsensical as Benito Mussolini being on the far right for economic policy. That’s crazy. He was a strident opponent of capitalism.
Likewise, they have Hillary Clinton on the right side of the spectrum for economic policy. The person who did that must have been on some crazy drugs at the time.
And I’m not a Trump fan, but I think it’s laughable to have him ranked as more authoritarian than Mugabe, Mao, and Castro.




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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: MadMuncher] * 1
    #26522845 - 03/07/20 08:29 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Interestingly, my 'score' was right on top of Bernie's in your picture above.

:freewilly:


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26522866 - 03/07/20 08:41 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

mine too :highfive: heres mine:



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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #26522892 - 03/07/20 08:58 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Fal, I think you are a Russian agent....:smug:


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: starfire_xes] * 3
    #26522895 - 03/07/20 09:00 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Me, Tulsi, Bernie, and Trump.  :smirk:


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26522904 - 03/07/20 09:06 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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natedawgnow said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Be careful with those compasses.  That one only has two outcomes:  Libertarian or Authoritarian

That test said I'm left libertarian, but that's only because I believe in personal freedoms.  I don't believe in corporate freedoms nearly as much, and that's why I don't consider myself anywhere close to a libertarian.



Pretty sure if you valued corporate freedoms more than individual freedoms
it would put you in the libertarian-right quadrant.

Lib-right = tea party
Lib-left = anarchists



I'm definitely not libertarian though.  I'm saying the compass was designed to make everyone think they are.



Or maybe you are but the definition and true meaning of libertarianism has been
botched by US politics.

Does this not fit in with your beliefs
"Libertarians seek to maximize political freedom and autonomy, emphasizing freedom of choice, voluntary association and individual judgement."

I fall in the libertarian left quadrant as well


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: natedawgnow] * 1
    #26522920 - 03/07/20 09:18 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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Does this not fit in with your beliefs
"Libertarians seek to maximize political freedom and autonomy, emphasizing freedom of choice, voluntary association and individual judgement."

I fall in the libertarian left quadrant as well



As stated above, "I believe in personal freedoms.  I don't believe in corporate freedoms nearly as much" which is why I'm not libertarian.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26523191 - 03/08/20 01:05 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

lol mao zedong is apparently less of an authoritarian than trump on that scale? pls... dude ordered his countrymen to slaughter millions of landlords, and that's just the start :lol:


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead]
    #26523208 - 03/08/20 01:22 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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While the caricatures have been placed in the quadrants appropriate to their political views, we have not attempted to place them accurately within their quadrants. Aesthetics took priority over ideology in this instance. So before you write to us to complain that we have Sanders to the left of Mandela, or that Ayn Rand believed in libertarianism only for the élite, consider that the certificate is designed to start conversations, not to settle bets.



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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: MadMuncher] * 1
    #26523212 - 03/08/20 01:25 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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mine too :highfive: heres mine:



have kind of secretly been hoping bernie wins all along. probably the best option on the table this year. i havnt looked at the other parties too closely yet though



About the same here


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26523561 - 03/08/20 08:40 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

So Hillary is more right wing than Pinochet?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26523598 - 03/08/20 09:05 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

"We can not get reelect-- um we can not win this reelection. Excuse me. We can ONLY reelect Donald Trump."

-Joe Biden yesterday

His handlers are really gonna start keeping him out of the public eye. CNN and the DNC even changed the debate to a townhall, so he'll likely be answering "Obama" to softball questions from a stacked audience instead of actually going up against Bernie on basically anything of value


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: feevers]
    #26523639 - 03/08/20 09:33 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)



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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26523841 - 03/08/20 12:04 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

The race on the democratic side--- Marxist vs Moron  :crazybeard:


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