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GenesisCorrupted
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I’m sick of this dude. Why didn’t we get federally legalized marijuana. Why didn’t they codify abortion when they had the chance? I would take Oprah Winfrey Over Brandon right now. I want Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The fact is. We only get two choices. Third parties are mood. We need to have ranked voting So we can actually take chances. He’s a safe boring choice. I think it should be an option to get a new vice president.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Ice9] 1
#28494720 - 10/06/23 06:07 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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Why didn’t they kill the filibuster then? You’re just telling me one of the steps to doing those things we need. It was thin. But we had the house and the senate. That was the time man. I am quite literally furious when I really think about all the opportunities I thought we were going to have when I heard that happened. The only barrier was the supreme court. Instead, I’m sitting in a worse position than I was before. It doesn’t feel like anything has gotten better. I haven’t seen any of the things that were promised. Quite a lot of book burnings. I’m seeing a floating barrier of razor wire in Mexico that I think they’re trying to take down. I don’t think that we should elect moderate Democrats and expect anything to really change. I wanted to vote for Bernie Sanders. But we don’t have ranked voting. Which is just killing me the more I think about how much I want it.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Lynnch]
#28494975 - 10/06/23 10:43 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Drug tests will still include it without federal legalization. It’s legal in my state too, there is a HUGE difference. Between state and federal legalization.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
#28494991 - 10/06/23 11:13 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Enlil said: Drug tests will include it WITH federal legalization. Just because it's legal won't stop employers from testing for it.
I disagree. Several employers, I’ve asked say they only do it because it’s not federally legalized. It would still be at the discretion of companies. But companies are not going to want to spend money on something they don’t need to.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
#28494996 - 10/06/23 11:22 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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You don’t think the motivation of companies bottom line is enough? From what I can tell the only motivation companies have is money. It’s bad optics to let employees use an illicit or illegal compound. If it’s something you can buy at a grocery store like alcohol. They’re not going to drug test for that. Public perception will change. Or else those companies will be seen as old fuddy-duddy obsolete businesses.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
#28495000 - 10/06/23 11:26 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Perception changes. Smoking tobacco used to be considered totally fine. Now you can’t do that inside of a bar.
If they don’t see a need anymore. They’re not going to just waste money to test for something that people don’t give two shits about. Just don’t go to work high. It’ll be treated the same way as if you come to work drunk.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
#28495005 - 10/06/23 11:29 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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No, I’m arguing that the perception has already changed. That we haven’t gotten federally legalized marijuana yet because somebody’s making a lot of money off of it staying illegal is more of what I’m leaning into. Once it is legalized. That will cause perception to change more. But it already feels like it’s legal in more than half the country. Cops in the south are not pursuing somebody getting high anymore. (for the most part. ) They are looking for actual crimes.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
#28495008 - 10/06/23 11:32 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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I just keep hearing the same excuses. “ We just wanna make sure it’s safe.” “People will hurt themselves.” Horseshit I say.
One moron, forgot that butane was flammable. Blew up his bathroom. Now we all have to hear about his stupid ass for years. Because he’s the perfect scapegoat.
It’s the same thing with those suicidal kids. That tripped way too hard on mushrooms in Amsterdam. They both killed them selves. Because they were insanely depressed. And insanely high on mushrooms. If you’re not insanely depressed. You’re not gonna kill yourself on mushrooms. Yet to this day, I don’t think mushrooms are legal in Amsterdam. Because of those two stupid suicidal kids. 2 scapegoats to the slaughter.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
#28495012 - 10/06/23 11:39 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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I’ve been trying to be chill for the last 20 years since I was told by Obama.
 That he was going to legalize the weed. Yet, here I sit. Brokenhearted. They had House and Senate. But only farted.
How much money do you think collectively, this sites users have wasted on fake pee. Probably like hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos]
#28495068 - 10/07/23 01:24 AM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Kryptos said:
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Enlil said: That old song and dance have been playing for over a hundred years. Policy always lags behind culture. The larger the unit, the slower it changes. This isn't anything new, and the federal government will eventually abandon weed prohibition. There's no cabal of people spending money to make sure it doesn't become legal.
There are absolutely organizations that could arguably be described as a cabal spending money to ensure weed does not become legal. They usually have "Tavern league of _____" in the name.
Those people are called lobbyists. Those are the same people that Adrian had assassinated in watchmen.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Lynnch]
#28495307 - 10/07/23 10:13 AM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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As we’ve been discussing. Federal legalization would look like every insurance company at every job that tests for it, dropping it from their test. As Enil has said, it is up to the companies to decide if they want to keep pursuing something they don’t have to anymore. But I and several others believe that with the cost being the major factor in 99% of companies decisions. With weed no longer being necessary by the federal government to qualify for money and insurance. Why on earth would they want to spend $300 to test for something that everyone treats as legal now. It will be treated the same way as alcohol. You just can’t come to work high on it. Also, after federal legalization. Everyone will be able to just grow this in their backyard. To a point where there will be so much of it. That marijuana will cost almost nothing. And people won’t even care about it growing in public anymore. Also because they can just grow their own someone won’t try and steal it… This would also dramatically reduce the amount of money being sent into the cartel. As I consider this to be one of the big three crops that they export to us.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos]
#28495375 - 10/07/23 11:28 AM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Do you really want to pay $300 just to no one meaningless thing about your bagger? Because I bet that people that want to make money don’t.
Yes, they do test for all the compounds that leave your system within six hours. Because if somebody came to a drug test and they tested positive for something that leave their system within four hours. Obviously they’re not appropriate for the job. Marijuana stays in your system for months. I doubt they’re gonna care. It’ll get to a point where people will just be able to smoke a joint next to you and you would fail your pointless test.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos]
#28495382 - 10/07/23 11:32 AM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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They probably get a premium on their insurance for doing it.
Like I said, if it leaves your system that quickly. But you still tested for it. That is an instant no go on your employment. But marijuana stays in fat. Somebody could do something two months ago, and they would still fail the test. It’s just different. I don’t think it’s worth it. I doubt any employer would.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
#28495402 - 10/07/23 11:50 AM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Oh Enil, you’re such a sobering bucket of ice cold honesty. I appreciate you keeping this conversation realistic. But I feel you side more on the air of pessimism than optimism. Yes at first I’m sure people won’t be able to grow marijuana in Mississippi, Alabama, or Kentucky. Because those places are the last places on earth to ever change. They still think that slavery should’nt have ended. It doesn’t matter. After federalized legalization. Everyone will be able to eventually. It will take time though.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
#28495440 - 10/07/23 12:41 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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 As a lawyer, you’ve seen the worst case scenarios. But progress marches forward.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
#28495508 - 10/07/23 01:45 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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We agree on regulation of commercial production for harm reduction.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: budmanman]
#28498019 - 10/09/23 06:26 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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budmanman said: Carl Marx loved the stock market
That’s a bold claim, sir. I would love to see a quote. Proof.
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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
#28498352 - 10/09/23 11:44 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Enlil said: That's the wrong dude. That article is about Karl Marx.
You got the wrong Carl!
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Bigbadwooof said:
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Ice9 said: Killing the filibuster is an idea that has been tossed around. That is also not a presidential ability though. I agree that democrats lack the necessary balls to get what they want.
You're wrong. Democrats have the balls to do whatever they want. They just don't want anything you think they want.
You're a sucker.
 Whoa there guy. If this is about Menendez we don’t like him either.😂 Every party can be corrupt at least in principle Democrats are trying to help. Have you just dismissed every democratic concept. Or is it a “lesser of two evils” thing?
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I don’t think he ran just for fun. He ran because of ABS. Always be scamming. He never relinquished any of his private holdings or companies. He made a lot of money off of idiots, giving them campaign donations. He thought he could use it to entrench himself as some sort of political demagogue. Well, I guess just scammin. Without actually trying to run the country that you got elected to manage. Isn’t going to actually convince most of the people most of the time. So now because of the ABS system. If he doesn’t get reelected, he is guaranteed going to jail. So he’s never gonna give up this run until he is sent to jail or forced to no longer run for office.IMO He’s left him self no other choice. Truly, a rock and a hard place.
Château dif
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