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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Shenmue] * 7
    #26465806 - 02/02/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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half of the population are to stupid to know it.



People who live in glass houses....


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: MadMuncher] * 1
    #26523212 - 03/08/20 01:25 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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mine too :highfive: heres mine:



have kind of secretly been hoping bernie wins all along. probably the best option on the table this year. i havnt looked at the other parties too closely yet though



About the same here


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26527646 - 03/10/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

So is this a machine gun then?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26527745 - 03/10/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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  I asked you why people are so passionate about making them available considering what they are not , and what they aren’t actually capable of accomplishing . 



Why are people so passionate about banning them while ignoring every other gun that is functionally identical?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26527910 - 03/10/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Why are people so passionate about banning them while ignoring every other gun that is functionally identical?




  I own one . I used to own 2 . I have allot of guns and while I wouldn’t  use it on a home intruder , I would use it if I needed to kill as many people as I possibly could somewhere else . There’s a reason for that , saying it’s like any other gun is shocking ignorance to me . It’s not like any other gun I own .



I never said it's like every other gun, I meant semi auto magazine fed rifles of which there are many different models available and they are functionally the same but people only fixate on the ar-15.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26527929 - 03/10/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

What does an ar-15 do that the browning I posted earlier doesn't?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26530546 - 03/12/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Why would you think an AR15 is somehow worse then any other semiautomatic rifle? Because it's well designed? do linguini it adds some killing property?



 
Would the shooter in Vegas have achieved the same result using another firearm that can be as easily purchased ? 59 dead , 413  wounded .



He could have, there’s nothing special about the ar-15.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26530559 - 03/12/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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He could have, there’s nothing special about the ar-15.




  Ok so banning them shouldn’t be a problem then , you can fight govt tyranny with a 22 according  to ovoidhunter .



I don’t think they should be singled out since there’s nothing unique about them but really, I don’t give a shit either way. I’ve shot several of them and have been thoroughly unimpressed by them and it definitely wouldn’t be my first choice for home defense.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
    #26530585 - 03/12/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Why would you think an AR15 is somehow worse then any other semiautomatic rifle? Because it's well designed? do linguini it adds some killing property?




This is truly a stupid argument.  The AR-15 is superior to many semiautomatic rifles at killing human beings.  You don't really think they spend the money to make it look that way solely for aesthetics, do you?  There are plenty of things that make an AR-15 more desirable as an anti-personnel firearm.

That doesn't mean it should be banned, of course, but to rest your argument on a clearly false factual basis doesn't help your case, and it makes you look like a biased source of information.



So what makes the ar-15 unique?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
    #26530592 - 03/12/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Nothing.  It's not unique at all.  Did someone argue that it was unique?



Then why is it more effective for killing?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
    #26530641 - 03/12/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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It's not, necessarily.  It's more effective at killing humans, however, because of several design features.  For starters, the lack of a wooden stock allows one to install a folding/retractable stock, or perhaps a recoil-absorbing stock, allowing for the firearm to be more easily transported into an area where humans are without being noticed.  Further, recoil-absorbing stocks allow one to rapid fire more accurately.  The low weight and shorter overall length allow the weapon to be panned faster across a field to switch targets more readily, or for use in tighter spaces.

There are plenty of other design features that are helpful as well, many of which make it a superior firearm for use against a human target and/or multiple targets.  Deer typically do not recognize a firearm by sight and do not take defensive actions designed to stop people from using a firearm.  Humans, for whatever reason, tend to actively avoid having a firearm aimed at them.



Those things can be done to other rifles too. Sure the ar has a huge aftermarket support making it easier to modify but that doesn’t make it more effective than a similarly setup gun of a different make or model.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
    #26530782 - 03/12/20 11:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Of course, any firearm can be made/modified at any time.  The question was "Why would you think an AR15 is somehow worse then any other semiautomatic rifle?"  You have an answer.  You may not like that answer, but there are things that make the AR-15 worse than some other rifles.  That's why it's a dead-end argument.  Most whataboutisms are. 

If you want to argue that a ban isn't appropriate, there are tons of solid arguments for that without pretending that an AR-15 is somehow exactly like a browning hunting rifle.



If you wanted to argue that in stock form the ar-15 can be more effective than some other guns you might be right but as you said, any gun can be modified and since there is nothing unique about the ar that can’t be done to other rifles it’s potential to kill is no better.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
    #26530819 - 03/12/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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For starters, the lack of a wooden stock allows one to install a folding/retractable stock, or perhaps a recoil-absorbing stock, allowing for the firearm to be more easily transported into an area where humans are without being noticed.  Further, recoil-absorbing stocks allow one to rapid fire more accurately. .



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That argument is so facially absurd that it's hardly worth addressing.  A brick, if modified properly, has the potential to kill thousands of people.  You are being intellectually dishonest, and you're weakening your position.  If you want to use weak arguments, feel free.  I'm only trying to help you improve your rhetoric.



You brought modifications to the discussion.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26673616 - 05/15/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
a guy with severe cognitive decline



Source or make believe?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26673740 - 05/15/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Kwyjibo said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
a guy with severe cognitive decline



Source or make believe?



Is that a serious question?  Where have you been?

This video compares him a few years ago to today:





He may or may not have cognitive decline, I'm not a doctor and as far as I know neither are you. I didn't see any doctors that have personally examined and diagnosed him in that video clip either. So, source or make believe?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26673788 - 05/15/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

My opinion doesn't matter. You made a statement, all I'm asking for is you to prove that statement. If you had said that it was your opinion that he has cognitive decline that would be fine but you didn't. So, for the 3rd time, source or make believe?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26674761 - 05/16/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Cognitive decline isn't a medical condition, congnitive impairment is.  You don't have to be a doctor to notice it, and it's pretty obvious with Joe Biden.

After watching any recent Joe Biden videos, is that really the guy who you believe should be President of the United States?  It's a strange game democrats are playing right now.



Stop making me defend Biden. I don't like him. There are plenty of reasons to dislike him without resorting to make believe.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26958856 - 09/28/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Bernie supported Clinton after she won the nomination in 2016. What’s so different this time with him supporting Biden?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26959269 - 09/28/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Bernie supported Clinton after she won the nomination in 2016. What’s so different this time with him supporting Biden?



No one said it was.



Then why are some of the people who still supported him after 2016 no longer supporting him because of his support for Biden?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27000286 - 10/23/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

There was nothing there that said he actually got the money, just that he was offered it.


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