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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
    #26459873 - 01/30/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If biden is the nominee, I'll vote for him then leave the polling location and vomit.

The GOP doesnt share my interests when they're filling supreme court seats and placing judges in lower courts.  The age of lifetime supremes and other bench seats is past, IMO.  If there was a term limit at the highest court, I might feel differently and would probably write in Bernie or stay home.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead]
    #26533389 - 03/13/20 07:44 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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feldman114 said:

Not like people hunt with it, right? [An AR-15]





Eh, some do.  I know a handful that use their AR variants to hunt coyote


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Psilynut2 said:
There’s no real hand to hand  defense against a knife attack dude . It’s extremely difficult to stop the stabbing motion without being stabbed .



I've been in a few fights against people armed with knives, you're wrong that there's no defense (not that it's easy - or lacks risk) but you're right in that you should expect to get cut to some degree, - I've managed to disarm without getting cut too bad each time.




Yup.  I got cut up pretty badly on both forearms even through a heavy leather jacket, the kind one wears to prevent road rash in a motorcycle accident. But I managed to keep my hands uncut...and, in the end, it was the ole 'but you should see the other guy' scenario.  (I DID have a buddy who jumped in when he saw me getting sliced and diced, though, so I had that going for me)



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Ovoidhunter said:
Obviously it'll do no good to argue with you so I digress. Have fun getting mugged and having your corpse jerked off upon by the neighborhood hobos. All because your to good to carry a gun. Lol

Derpity derp  :cheers:




That's a weak argument style, man.  Super weak.

And it doesnt really fly in this forum, FYI.

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You sound unreasonably afraid of the world, and way too overconfident in the self defense ability a gun gives you :lolsy:

Statistics show that most attacks are launched within 3 feet. You're going to have near 0 chance that your gun is going to save you. I'm not saying that a hand to hand




Yup, again. 

I was carrying, illegally concealed, turned a corner and basically walked into the business end of a 38 held by an approx 12 year old kid.  The kind of 12 year old kid that has been practicing that move for probably almost half his life.

I had exactly zero chance to do anything about it, much less reach behind me and pull my own 38 from my waist.

The kid got my money but nothing else except a little sweat.  Before he got my dough there was a short 10-ish second period where I wondered if I could snatch that revolver from his hand quicker than he could pull the trigger...but then i woke up and handed over the ~ 150$ in my pocket and lived to wonder about the possibilities of snatching his gun a thousand more times since then.

Point is, I had no chance of doing anything meaningful when confronted at less than about 5 feet.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Brian Jones] * 4
    #26545628 - 03/19/20 10:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I said not too too long ago I'd vote for who ever was running against trump, but I'll probably write in for president at this point.

Fucking DNC; to hell with the lot of em.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26554149 - 03/23/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Trump is the worst president in the history of the republic, but any standard. GWB is now second, which is sad.




I'd give that dishonor to Ronald Reagan, EASILY.





+ eleventymillion, Fal.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #26554162 - 03/23/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm just wondering. I think Bernie is the best candidate, and I would give my vote to him well before Biden. But, let's say Biden is the one on the ticket. Would you all rather be able to say that you didn't vote for Biden, or vote Trump out of office? Should the perfect be the enemy of the good?




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perfect should not be the enemy of good but neither should that argument be used as often as it is to justify not rising to meet the moment.  If we always fall for it, we'll continue our downward slide.





You've summed it up very well IMO, ballz.

Plus, while donnie has been a terrible president, he's been terrible in an embarrassing way for the most part (I said for the most part).  But, to be sure, donnie hasn't nearly been terrible in a ronnie (raygun) sort of way.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #26554253 - 03/24/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

One can hope, eh?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Ran-D] * 3
    #26560689 - 03/27/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Or the old 'if you dont like it, why dont you move [out of the US]?' as if citizens of the US dont have a storied history of change by protest.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Ran-D]
    #26561116 - 03/27/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Indeed.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #26572065 - 04/01/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

IDK how I found this, or why, but it's been in an open window for a few days and I've meant to post it here.

I forgot all about this thing Joe has with the truth, an aversion to telling it that is, specifically in reference to his dead wife's car accident, his plagiarism, his academic prowess, etc.  Oh, and that dust up with a New Hampshire voter when he challenged the dude to an IQ matchup.

This guy has had so many do-overs, but the American electorate has a short memory--says the guy who forgot half this stuff--and is seemingly a bunch of gluttons who just love some fuckin liars.

Anyway, from.this post.

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IT AIN'T SO, JOE

By Celia Cohen
Grapevine Political Writer

If ever there was a crash that tugged at the heart of the entire state, it was the one that took the lives of Joe Biden’s wife and baby daughter and hospitalized his two toddler sons 35 years ago, just weeks after his precocious election to the U.S. Senate.

It was an unbearable turn of events, from one of the most daring political breakthroughs in Delaware political history to unspeakable grief, and there is no reason to make the accident appear worse than it was.

While campaigning in Iowa for the Democratic presidential nomination, however, Biden did.

“Let me tell you a little story,” he was quoted as saying last Friday in the New York Times.

“I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on December 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly – and I never pursued it – drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries.”

Except there was no drinking. There was not even speeding. The truck’s brakes checked out, as well. It was not the driver’s fault.

Biden insisted Wednesday in a brief telephone interview from Iowa he told the story as he knew it.

“All I said was what I heard at the time. What I heard from folks at the time is he’d been drinking,” Biden said, sounding agitated. “I don’t want to talk about it. . . . She must have pulled out. . . . It’s still painful to talk about 35 years later.”

The embellishment is reminiscent of one of the problems that undid Biden the last time he ran for president 20 years ago. He was swallowed up mostly by plagiarism charges, but there was also an incident, taped by C-SPAN, in which Biden became irritated with a New Hampshire voter and belittled him by inflating his own uneven academic credentials.

Among Biden’s claims, he said he was named the outstanding student in political science at the University of Delaware and was in the top half of his law school class at Syracuse University, both untrue, and won an international moot court competition, which was true. He also gibed, “I’d be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours.”

In Biden’s memoir, Promises to Keep, his explanation for that blowup was along the lines of his account of the accident – lack of knowledge.

“I lost my temper in New Hampshire. What I’d said about my academic achievements was just faulty memory or lack of knowledge. I hadn’t remembered where I finished in my law school class. I hadn’t cared. But to say, ‘Wanna compare IQs?’ was so stupid,” Biden wrote.

The crash involving the Biden family station wagon and the tractor-trailer driven by Curtis C. Dunn, 43, of Kaolin, Pa., occurred on Monday afternoon, Dec. 18, 1972, a week before Christmas, at the intersection of Valley and Limestone Roads in Hockessin.

Joe Biden, who turned 30 in late November, was in Washington to set up his Senate office. Neilia Biden, 30, was at the wheel with their three young children – three-year-old Beau Biden, now the state’s Democratic attorney general, two-year-old Hunter Biden, now a lawyer in Washington, and 13-month-old Amy Biden.

The tractor-trailer was heading toward Pennsylvania on Limestone Road when it broadsided the station wagon, sending it spinning for 150 feet, breaking the windshield and crushing in a rear door, while the truck itself skidded for 20 feet and landed on its side, according to The News Journal, which was printed in two editions in those days as The Morning News and the Evening Journal.

Old campaign literature littered the road, along with the truck’s load of corncobs. Dunn, the truck driver, heaved himself out of the wreckage and was the first to get to the station wagon, the newspaper said.

Neilia and Amy Biden died from the crash. Hunter Biden sustained head injuries. Beau Biden had a broken leg that kept him in the hospital beyond the start of the Senate’s new term, leading their broken-hearted father to decide to take his oath of office in the hospital chapel and to vacillate about whether he should be sworn in at all.

“We can always get another senator, but they can’t get another father,” he said.

The state police investigated the accident. The concern then was not that Dunn would get away with anything as serious as drunken driving, but that he could get railroaded. He had plowed into the family of a United States senator, after all.

As the chief deputy attorney general, Jerome Herlihy was assigned to the incident. Two days later, he issued his report, clearing Dunn.

A story headlined, “No Charges Due for Trucker in Biden Deaths,” in the Evening Journal read: “[Herlihy] said there was no evidence that [Dunn] was speeding, drinking or driving a truck with faulty brakes. In addition, Herlihy said, witnesses to the crash near Hockessin provided no basis for a prosecution.”

No further details were released, although Herlihy knew more about the accident than he let on. Years later, he elaborated.

It is hard to think of anyone better the Attorney General’s Office could have sent. Herlihy was a Republican, a good enough one that he served as the Republican state chairman in the late 1970s and early 1980s, but he also knew the Bidens and thought the world of Neilia.

In the late 1960s, Herlihy and the Bidens were neighbors with a common driveway on Marsh Road in Brandywine Hundred, when Joe Biden was a new lawyer. It was before he was elected to the Senate, even before he was elected to the New Castle County Council in 1970.

The Bidens had two German shepherds, and for better or worse, they were named “Senator” and “Governor.” When Herlihy used to pull into the driveway late at night, he would spy eyes looking at him from the bushes and call out, “Senator, is that you?”

Herlihy, now a Superior Court judge, no longer will talk about the accident because he is constrained by his judicial office from injecting himself into a political campaign. He was interviewed about it, however, in 1998 by this writer as part of the research for Only in Delaware, a history of modern state politics.

In that interview, Herlihy said Neilia Biden either accelerated or drifted through the intersection, and Dunn could not stop. The truck driver said she was not looking at him, her face turned away, and the state police thought she was distracted by one of the children in the back seat.

“She was one of the sweetest people you ever could meet. It was so tragic,” Herlihy said in 1998.

Dunn died in 1999, but Philip A. Lafferty, the truck owner he drove for, still lives in Avondale, Pa. In a telephone interview, Lafferty recalled the state police impounding the tractor-trailer and the station wagon for the investigation for a couple of days and concluding that Dunn was not at fault.

“Nothing came of it. They had people, witnesses,” Lafferty said. “He was a good truck driver, very caring. It shook him up. It was an awful thing for all of us.”

Biden’s remarks in Iowa were not his only version of the accident. He offered another description in a speech on Sept. 19, 2001, at the University of Delaware. His focus that day was the terrorist attack of Sept. 11, but he mentioned his personal tragedy to show he understood the country’s.

“I got one of those phone calls,” Biden said.

“I got a phone call saying, ‘Your wife’s dead, your daughter’s dead.’ And I’ve only said that three times in public before. But I say it here because it’s so important for you to understand. I got one of those phone calls. It was an errant driver who stopped to drink instead of drive and hit a tractor-trailer, hit my children and my wife and killed them.”

Except there was no errant drunken driver. No drinking. No speeding. Not even bad brakes.




Quoted from: http://www.delawaregrapevine.com/12-07bidencrash.asp


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos] * 3
    #26600704 - 04/14/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Kryptos said:
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tyrannicalrex said:
What if it's all an act and when he gets there he just fucks trump up?:rolleyes:




It's gonna be a matter of opinion. Like the JFK/Nixon debates. Those that watched them on TV thought JFK won, those that listened to the radio thought Nixon won.

In this case, I expect Joe to focus on policy and politics, while diaper don is just going to personally attack him over and over again.

People that think politics is about policy are going to think Joe won the debate. People that think politics is all about the best zinger are gonna think trumpy dump won. Though I expect Joe to have a few choice pokes as well. The problem with Joe bringing out the schoolyard taunts is that the people that support diaper donnie tend to view the increasingly incoherent ramblings that spew out when he gets flustered as "strength".




That's as good a prediction as anyone will see.  It follows the script from the last cycle where hillary killed him in her own way on the policy front while donnie dragged her sorry ass through the mud over and over.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26605217 - 04/16/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Bill Whittle...had to drop out, I wouldn't take my economic advice from a theater major dropout.





:lol: :congrats:


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26605742 - 04/16/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Enlil said:
I was a theatre major dropout.




Cool.  Did you drop out because your grades sucked causing you to lose financial aid?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
    #26671486 - 05/14/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Shutting down the system was clearly the correct thing to do from the viewpoint of 'normal' people; meaning people who dont want the world's population to be halved.

But the fact that the elite were coddled and catered to--while wealth flowed heavily in their direction--and the working class regular joes and janes were thrown a tiny, marrowless bone, yet again revealed the cold, black hearts of our elected representatives.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Mach z 800] * 1
    #26994412 - 10/20/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Mach z 800 said:




You're trying to contribute; everyone can see it.
So that some people don't automatically give up on you due to your struggles with written English, here is a lightly edited example:

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t There is allways always room for improvement but doing like antifa is doing is plain dumb. your They're putting citys cities into debt with by destroying business businesses an and property properties. But hey, thats that's fine, its it's all for a good cause. its It's social justice because America is ran by racist nazis who keep everyone in slaved enslaved. An its It's totally fine for social media companies to take one side an and silence people with there their own options opinions because they are racist an and dont don't share the social justice values lol.




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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead] * 1
    #26996283 - 10/21/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Mach z 800 said:
thank you mr spell check now get back to class




That's funny stuff and super original, too.

Unfortunately I haven't been in a class in over 30 years. There are many classes I would've liked to attend, but sometimes life gets in the way when one reaches adulthood; you'll find that out some day.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27021357 - 11/04/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Ok wheres my proof? Im an election worker for king county. So when I heard voters in that area talk about it I knew they weren't bullshitting. You're saying facebook flagging people is like some thing that isn't bias in anyway?? what world are you living in kid




I think your lying . Voting machines will read sharpies .




According to the maricopa county elections department, sharpie is the preferred writing utensil due to the fast drying ink thereof. Blue or black pen is second best in a two-horse race.

ETA: and bleed through is also not an issue with the ballot tabulating machines used in AZ


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Saul Ptamets]
    #27021419 - 11/04/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Saul Ptamets said:
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Psilynut2 said:
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Ok wheres my proof? Im an election worker for king county. So when I heard voters in that area talk about it I knew they weren't bullshitting. You're saying facebook flagging people is like some thing that isn't bias in anyway?? what world are you living in kid




I think your lying . Voting machines will read sharpies .




According to the maricopa county elections department, sharpie is the preferred writing utensil due to the fast drying ink thereof. Blue or black pen is second best in a two-horse race.

ETA: and bleed through is also not an issue with the ballot tabulating machines used in AZ



 
No, they do not register sharpie lol. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/voting-machines-dont-read-ballots-filled-sharpies-/ We can only use blue or black pen.

I would have to see the ballot in parts of Arizona to confirm, it all depends if the the sharpie bleeds through close to another hole which is very common, if it does it doesn't count it. In this case in Arizona, they were forcing the workers to use sharpies, obviously pens are significantly better and more accurate. They were taking the sharpies out of the workers hands and switching them out, why do you think they would do that?




Did you mean to post a different link? The one you posted affirms what I wrote.

Also
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Maricopa Elections Department said:
Did you know we use Sharpies in the Vote Centers so the ink doesn’t smudge as ballots are counted onsite? New offset columns on the ballots means bleed through won’t impact your vote! Find a location before the polls close at 7 p.m.




http://mobile.twitter.com/MaricopaVote/status/1323728961231233025


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Saul Ptamets]
    #27021440 - 11/04/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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No, they do not register sharpie lol. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/voting-machines-dont-read-ballots-filled-sharpies-/ We can only use blue or black pen.




The link you posted directly disagrees with what you're saying.  Did you read it?




Yea I copy and pasted the wrong article, thanks for saying somethin




It proves you were wrong about both the use of sharpies and the bleed through.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: BallHairDandruf]
    #27032262 - 11/10/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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BallHairDandruf said:
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Enlil said:
...That doesn't happen, and you're being intellectually dishonest in pretending that this is somehow a sign that no evidence exists...




I never said no evidence exist. You are insinuating that it is true and i am saying do you have any evidence that it is true. No, indictments are not enough, nor is he said she said. Im not asking for the courts evidence im asking for yours.




(fixed format)

Enlil wasn't replying to you when he wrote what you quoted; he insinuated that someone else was intellectually dishonest. But that charge applies to you, too, based upon your posts ITT.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Kryptos]
    #27034776 - 11/12/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Kryptos said:
There was definitely voter fraud found in this election. For example, this guy tried to have his dead mom vote for Trump.

https://triblive.com/news/pennsylvania/lt-gov-fetterman-seeks-claim-of-1m-voter-fraud-reward-from-texas-lieutenant-governor/




Fetterman is ace. Reminds me so much of my cousins John, Richard, Jim, and Jack born and raised in Pittsburgh, Mars, and Butler, PA.  He's even Richard's doppelganger. Smartasses one and all who can and do pay up the checks their mouths cash.


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