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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #26459134 - 01/29/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I don't like Biden, Buttigege and Warren with a passion.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #26594782 - 04/12/20 01:08 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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He talked his way into the presidancy and people have written about why he is persuasive.



That's not a hallmark of leadership, every terrible leader in history that rose to power was also persuasive. He doesn't seem persuasive when he said Mexico was going to pay for our border wall. He didn't seem persuasive when he failed negotitiations rushed for publicity with North Korea as far as saying things that feeds into their propaganda saying Kim "loved his people" "Kim Didn't know about Otto Warmbiers torture" " saying Kim "just inherited a big mess" he even went as far as to suggest nuclear defense drills between South Korea and the US were a waste of time. He hasn't "won over" many people except his supporters really and even a lot of them have felt like he broke promises especially to people like farmers,steel workers,coal miners etc

The way I see it with pandemic he waited a couple of weeks longer then he should've which would've saved a lot of lives if we had weeks more to prepare. He didn't ban travel to and from Europe until it was a hot zone (which is how it came to NY not from China) He confused the living shit out of his constituents and affected governors choices to issue stay at home orders by first saying this was "another Russia hoax"  then saying we have it contained it's nothing to worry about.

Then as even democrats noted he appointed Fauci which was a good choice, changed his tone a little but still tried to weasel out of taking a firm stand on continuing to have people stay at home while the stock market plunged and people lost their jobs he eventually did do some good things like envoking the defense production act which he at first thought GM and 3M would just be speedy because giant corporations said they would. But he did it. He freed up 500m in the national emergency fund. The military is deploying field hospitals and taking pressure off N.Y. again late but better late then never. The real question for me if he had made those important decisions that would've given us a few weeks he'd be An amazing president in that area all of the sudden but there was mixed messages, delaying us because he didn't believe it'd come to us. Those things are obviously important too.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods]
    #26594912 - 04/12/20 02:52 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Like I said in my posts im critical of what he should be done but what he did do was needed even if the stimulus package had to be rewritten to actually help individuals. There's some good things he's done in this with direction from experts but again that's better then those things not happening ever. I expected worse.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26618252 - 04/21/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Recently I got to talk to someone at the RNC and there's a special election in our area and I told him I voted for the candidate he was calling about and I was able to establish a human connection with this person. During this Exchange I outlined that over 50% of all PTSD patients can only be treated with anxiety medication and due to the National opioid crisis being a federal executive order it's made it so I was inactive student in college before with aspirations of getting a job and now I am barely making it staying at home because the doctors can't give the dose they recommend for me. Also my father served in the Vietnam era on the cold war front and was LAPD for years after that sustaining permanent debilitating spine injuries and they made him choose between his pain meds and his anxiety meds.

Because he is bed-bound and I only get to be with him four days a week his anxiety, depression and PTSD attacks he had to choose the anxiety medication. Ever since every day he is an agonizing pain and it absolutely kills me to see him that way because of our own government. After talking to them for a while he said he had a specific way that he could get the message to the RNC because I'm technically a registered Republican and that's absolutely going to change if doctors don't get the right to treat patients Case by case and use their medical knowledge that the government does not have.  Also while I had him on the phone I emphasized that while leaving cannabis legislation up to the states is good the way it falls through the cracks is local governments are then able to override the vote of the state especially because it's the schedule one.

Who knows if they give a shit I doubt it but at least I said my piece.

That being said that's also not the only direct consequence that's happened in my life because of this administration's actions. And if you go back in some of these posts I was praising Trump for doing things like freeing up five hundred billion dollars in a real pandemic,(not the horseshit opiate one), invoking the defense production Act and after he got fooled he required them to do it and the most important in best decision Trump maybe he's ever made is having Anthony falchi as are leading expert leaving us through this and trying to tell people in layman's terms what we need to do he's received bipartisan support because he knows what needs to be done so through all of this I have some sense of hope that the dumb shit that Trump says isn't what he ultimately does.

But those small business loans dried up because they have not to big business, when he introduced the plan Enphase has to get back to normal I pretty much supported all that. Then he dangerously undercut his own efforts by encouraging protesters with no masks that weren't social distancing meaning of the word spreading more disinformation that coronavirus is a lie and these people only are saying what they're saying because they're not seeing the immense death toll that could be even though we have New York and Italy does the model and now many states.

Whenever someone asks a question nowadays that doesn't end in some ass kissing, the response is" your ratings are low, you're pathetic oh, what a horrible question, you're just being nasty, fake news, terrible reporters. Imagine if Obama would have done that Republicans would have been calling for an immediate impeachment over mental sanity. The reason being is the leader of the free world is supposed to be able to have a composure that sets an example for all Americans in public discourse. When you are the president of the United States of America you need to be able to keep your calm in eloquently answer even the hardest and sometimes very critical questions. Recently he said that "he doesn't mind criticism but they shouldn't be able to criticize him if there are wrong" That's the exact definition of criticism is they say you're wrong when you think you're right. Do you really want the government deciding who's wrong and who's right when it comes to the debate over what should we should do with our country? Do you want a free press which is a cornerstone of freedom or do you want a president that can pick and choose which questions he answers if he doesn't like the question?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: mandrin13] * 1
    #26825712 - 07/15/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm voting for Biden, first time voting Democrat, I gotta register Democrat because I've been a registered Republican and voted Republican. It saddens me to vote for him but put country cannot take 4 more years of Trump.

Trump has completely given up fighting covid and never fought hard to begin with, utterly incapable of uniting anyone, incapable of easing racial tensions, has ruined countless lives by making the opioid national emergency a blanket ban without any discretion for the people that truly suffer and medically can't live a life of quality without it including veterans with ptsd and physical injuries, when he deported people initially when he took office a friend in my friend group had lived here all his life 21 years old,hard worker loved america,deported 2 weeks later murdered at random, I can go on and on but in short I don't think America can take 4 more years of this assclown. Has fucked up America more in 3 years then I've seen 8 year presidencies fuck things up.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: qman] * 1
    #26826798 - 07/16/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
I'm voting for Biden, first time voting Democrat, I gotta register Democrat because I've been a registered Republican and voted Republican. It saddens me to vote for him but put country cannot take 4 more years of Trump.

Trump has completely given up fighting covid and never fought hard to begin with, utterly incapable of uniting anyone, incapable of easing racial tensions, has ruined countless lives by making the opioid national emergency a blanket ban without any discretion for the people that truly suffer and medically can't live a life of quality without it including veterans with ptsd and physical injuries, when he deported people initially when he took office a friend in my friend group had lived here all his life 21 years old,hard worker loved america,deported 2 weeks later murdered at random, I can go on and on but in short I don't think America can take 4 more years of this assclown. Has fucked up America more in 3 years then I've seen 8 year presidencies fuck things up.




You're going to be real disappointed when nothing changes under Biden. In fact, he'll likely cut social spending since he will have the perfect excuse to do so. Tax revenue is down significantly and deficits are exploding higher. Fiscal austerity is coming and Biden will deliver the bad news.



Yeah I will be disappointed in a lot of ways but Trump has ruined many people's lives including mine so I'm already as disappointed as I can possibly be with him. Trump has ballooned our deficit also for much stupider things then healthcare.
However I'm tired of not knowing when I can start my life again,stop worrying bout my parents and friends dying simply because people don't want to wear masks and Biden would do that. I don't think Biden will be some golden age president he's just not dumb enough to urge states to reopen before it's safe killing people and grinding over 40 states back to a halt.

Also I disagree that Biden will be worse then Trump on social programs. It's pretty obvious that democrats are much more in favor of funding social aid. The Trump Administration cut Social Security Disability funds by almost 80% in the last 3 years this has led to my best friends 2 y/o Son, who has 40% brain function and they were told that due to budget cuts his son "wasn't disabled enough" due directly to trumps budget cuts. Basically I'm saying that I don't I think Joe Biden will be an amazing president but I do think he will reverse some of the most damaging policies Trump has instated that is destroying lives. It's a fucked up choice and I wasn't going to vote for Biden until I saw how horrible of a response Trump has had to covid. Just yesterday Florida official was interviewed and he said that Florida was "doing just fine" and was arguing about their rights to not wear masks but he added that if Trump word to tell everyone to wear masks he would do it and that's a big problem that WILL kill more people then need be. We are talking about life and death stakes now.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #26875706 - 08/11/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Of the many hundreds of decisions the Reagan administration made - all of them were bad?

I notice many people hate Trump so deeply they can not admit to any of the good he's done.

That's always a symptom of hatred blindness.



Reagan has more presidential competence in his left ass check then Trump does. Reagan ramped up the war on drugs which has led to catasrophy but Reagan would want no part in the kind of action and inaction Trump has brought us. He's almost single handedly destroyed everything America should stand for. Trump hasn't tried to calm the nation down, he hasn't tried to ease people's worries bout covid,keeps pretending it'll go away. Pretending the massive dead count isn't serious and 99.9% harmless with no evidence. His idea of unifying people during protest is to use armed forces to beat their way through to take a picture with a bible, he's so incompetent our enemies want him reelected.

To compare Trump to Reagan spits on the good things Reagan actually did and who he was. Reagan didn't talk about the democrats being against America diving us, he didn't call unfavorable press fake news, he didn't politicize life saving precautions and wouldn't have if he was president now. He would have at least attempted to have a heartful stoic speech on race relations after George Floyd if he was president now. Trump is not the same Republican Reagan was, Trump is barely Republican at all.  Trump did things you wanted that doesn't make them good in fact we are finding out that we haven't been this divided from each other,from facts,from seeing each other's viewpoints,listening to science over politics during a pandemic. All of it has caused more chaos then any modern president has.

Between July 9th and August 6th after some schools reopened in person there has been 180 thousand new cases in children with 86 kids dying already not to mention their families. Ask yourself is Trump threatening to cut funding to schools that don't open for the benefit of the children and the nation? Or is he doing it for political gain and out of ignorance? You'll find it's certainly not for the children's well being. Certainly not for the 180k kids that will have covid ravaging their bodies the rest of their lives and certainly not for the 86 dead kids. How many kids have to die to acknowledge home learning for a year or 2 wouldn't be as bad as all this carnage.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26875886 - 08/11/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah or Yosemite or United sashhhst of America lol that's the least of the reasons he needs to go though his supporters know this stuff and don't care that leader of America didn't know world war 2 didn't happen in 1918 and has no basic understanding of the history of our country.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #26914506 - 09/02/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Biden will be a middle of the road politician that isn't great but is what we need, it's what we need to protect Americans from covid, what we need to reduce violent protests ironically not having Trump in office will reduce a lot of it. He will actually make statements that at least show an attempt to unify races. Instead of being for helping to see change for African Americans OR for supporting police which Trump is saying is the only option it's not.  Biden will have much much better cabinet picks then Trump. Even if you're a Trump supporter you know he has replaced his "best people" in every position in his cabinet more then once. Betsy Davis is complete moron that pushes private schools which cost a fortune and when questioned about anything education related she NEVER knows the answer.

Then there Barr who has done many many questionably corrupt things in trumps admin, Scott Pruitt, Steve mnuchin literally all horrible choices for their jobs. Then Trump tries to rig the election by first appointing Dejoy, Dejoy removing 18 voting mail sorting machines saying we won't need them is blatant interference election. He said he reversed that but employees say nothing has changed. Russia BADLY wants Trump as president because he's a friend to autocrats and tyrants and not our allies. By withholding a DHS report that said Russia had set up several websites to put out propaganda about Joe Biden's mental health, the admin is clearly hand in hand with the Russians. If Trump is elected again we will have 4 years of unimaginable pain and possibly the total destruction of our countries.

Trump already failed horribly, it's very very obvious by now. If he would've advocated masks early, Used the time he was speaking about the new virus being a "democratic witch hunt hoax" and that 15 people died and then it'd go away just like that. He repeated the lie until major infections spread from Europe. Only then did he ban travel from Europe, it was too late. He dismissed reality and 183k people are dead.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Buckomcdoogle] * 1
    #26914741 - 09/02/20 10:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Disenfranchising and ignoring voters is the radiation that causes it.

"Lying dog faced pony soldier"



Like the citizens of america voting for Hillary winning by 3m or so votes in the primary. That ignoring voters?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Mach z 800] * 1
    #26999861 - 10/23/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Enlil said:
I still don't see it.



In other words, the Dems need to stop freaking out and lying about this.  :lol:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-biden-family-legacy-11603409528


you can have
Video evidence an the dems would go nope thats Russia or Chinese propaganda lol its all they can come up with thats not enough evidence 😂🤣. Hunter biden is a pedo an the media is protecting him lol it really shows who the real creeps really are.



Not even breitbart is retarded enough to call Hunter biden a pedophile. Have fun in your fantasy land


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 1
    #27009487 - 10/28/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Near Dylan said:
Hitler brought back the Sudetenland with no bloodshed and revolutionized transportation in Germany, so :shrug:



Abraham Lincoln ordered the largest mass execution in US history. 38 Dakota Indians hanged



Not close to the worst offender for killing Native Americans not by a margin of about 60 thousand people that were killed in the trail of tears spearheaded by Andrew Jackson in the Indian removal act of 1830 which was the largest mass executions of Native Americans. Systematic slaughter for land and resources period. To suggest Lincoln rose to that level seems ridiculous.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27012671 - 10/30/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So when Trump as a sitting president ACTUALLY DOES use another country to announce an investigation into his political opponent in a free election over funding and that's proven and documented in the same report that said he wasn't exonerated and could face charges after the presidency from a special prosecutor is not as bad as "potential crimes" Lmao.  Maybe in Russia that autocratic crap can be bought by the citizens but not America.

Also you keep on and keep on claiming that there's good evidence that you mysteriously can't find actual evidence that is anywhere near as bad as what Trump has done (which by the way the Hunter biden emails were Exclusively sent to fox when places like CNN requested the material and never got it)


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27013149 - 10/31/20 12:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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I guess I'm proof that Ted Cruz is wrong.  :shrug:



You didnt change your vote from biden to Trump based on this, you were never a biden supporter to begin with . So in short he's not right and neither are you.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
    #27014233 - 10/31/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

In 2016 I'd happily talk about entrenched politicians that were part of an oppressive establishment so I'd vote for a 3rd party mostly. However this isn't a scenario where being idealistic will lead to change. Every vote not casted is a vote casted for Trump, every 3rd party vote is a vote for Trump unfortunately.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27016109 - 11/01/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Ooh, even MORE name calling - "confused".  You keep going with that, I'll keep going with evidence.



That's not a name it's an adjective lol


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods]
    #27016588 - 11/01/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Nope the Russians are content witnessing chaos in American society by getting everyone on the brink of civil war and having us become the epicenter of covid in the world China and Russia need trumps fake ass to do that


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Buckomcdoogle] * 1
    #27017464 - 11/02/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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"Nope the Russians are content witnessing chaos in American society by getting everyone on the brink of civil war"

By doing what? telling the truth?
I guess the truth is dangerous sometimes.

It's much easier and safer to be ignorant.



No Trump has caused mass protests and riots by refusing to even acknowledge the pain of the protesters and going further saying communities that protest police brutatility should not get any police protection if the community doesn't support the police. He used the national guard to beat protectors back with tear gas and rubber bullets so he could take a picture with the bible (which by the way helped no one). He's been calling covid a hoax since the beginning because China convinced him hook line and sinker that everything was hunky dory, then when He did know how bad it was in early January he also did nothing because he "didn't want to scare us" he didn't watch the panic that ensued I guess.

When Kyle rittenhouse killed rioters for rioting he didn't condemn him he defended him. That's just the tip of the iceberg, all this dumb shit causes more and more hatred to one another, more then in any time in American history besides the civil war. Needless to say the more damage caused, the more anger that is festered, the biggest hit to our economy all is advantageous to our 2 only major enemies in the world. If Biden won it would jeopardize the further destruction of America as we know it. I dare you to refute how badly he's gotten people to hate each other in 3 years, much more then any president in history.

Also he has done everything in his power to discredit the only line of defense we have to covid masks, constantly saying covid is harmless has caused unimaginable horrors that if you can't see it by now, you got brainwashed too


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27017560 - 11/02/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well that's where we disagree, in 2016 leading up to the election it was clear that Russia saw this connection and started by using a network of Russian hackers and troll farms in directly edge in propaganda against Hillary Clinton. Then the Muller report detailed how they attempted to do the same thing in the 2020 election and that Trump did in fact stop all funding to Ukraine until the day AFTER the calls were leaked to the press detailing how he said they would hold that aid until Ukraine announced an investigation into Biden over burisma. That is fundamentally something you find no fault with but when Russia annexed Ukraine which I remember you saying 90%+ of Crimea wanted to be annexed by Russia, Trump protested at the G7 for taking the Russians out of the talks which just made us look like Russian puppets and literally all of the free world's leaders were laughing behind his back literally. In fact I'd love to hear the last time Trump was "tough" on Russia. He's been a doormat since he took office


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    #27017728 - 11/02/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Do you know what Biden's message that he said about the most recent riot(s) that were that he knows we need change but he outright condemns the rioting saying in part "This is not acceptable, the rioting only hurts the very cause his (the victims family tarted when George Floyd was killed and the government failed to charge everyone involved and Chauvin to get his justified punishment. When treyvon Martin was killed there wasn't a 6 month long tits for tat murder spree across the nation because they didn't use more force in response and Obama said "Treyvon could have been my son and I feel the nation's heartbreak. You may laugh ta that but IT WORKED When did all these evil cities start popping up and have the recent riots like we've never seen? Mostly in opposition to those in power right or left. Authoritarian power is being used against people who are already mad at the government and giving them a reason to fight. Real leaders don't just solved everything with the barrel of a gun.


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