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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Delirium_in_BC]
    #3226606 - 10/07/04 05:43 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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i can tell you that i personally at 3 good sized libs (approx 1/2 gram) the other night and had a level 2 trip.




Something in that statement doesn't match up. Placebo, maybe?
Liberty caps are not that potent.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Joshua]
    #3227038 - 10/07/04 08:08 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Joshua, that dosage is correct for liberty caps. There are two to three doses in a fresh ounce. Lincoff and Mitchell in their pioisonous and Hallucinogenic Mushrooms books also list this dosage as does Haard and haard in their p Hallucinogenic and Poisonous Mushroom book. Stijve has conducted clinical studies using human volunteers and one dried gram is an average dose for someone who never ate libs before. the 1-2 dried grams is the normal dosage for the liberty cap mushroom

20 to 40 fresh is average for most people.

My first trip I aaate 24 in 1973 and barely felt anything. SO the next day i collected over 400 fresh specimens of semilanceata. I told my wife we should eat about forty since3 I kinda felt a little on the 24 I ate the day before.

as I counted them out, she suggested we both eat 60 shrooms each. That weighed in at oine fresh ounce each.

After a few minutes of thought, I put ten of mine back into the bag when she wasn't looking. I figuered soneone had to be in control.

Anyway WE both saw and experienced what R. Gordon Wasson wrote about in his Life Magazine article tot he world on his experience after re-discovering the use of these mushroonms in Mexico.

mju

have a shroomy day

Haard and Haard also recommend a mixture of twenty blue ringers with twenty semilanceata shrooms.





mj

still a total of forty for a good trip.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3227522 - 10/07/04 09:42 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

What you are saying now is in line with my thoughts as well. However, this is what you posted earlier and is what I was questioning you about, "one dried ounce of liberty caps or twnety to forty fresh specimens or 1/3 fresh ounce."

I think a dried ounce of liberties is bound to accel the user to the point of no points and may explode the user.

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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Joshua]
    #3227656 - 10/07/04 10:04 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Heh, "to the point of no points and explode the user"  I love it! :wink:


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #3228014 - 10/07/04 11:00 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

if ure a first timer try 40 the good thing about libs is that they wont knock ure head off in low dosage like some other species i.e ps cyan ive been as low as 30 and as high as 300.reverse bungi jump.and still laughed my ass off every time. libs are a quality trip be brave :mushroom2:


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: ryagaric]
    #3228032 - 10/07/04 11:04 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

yea libs are great :laugh:

Hawaiians are nuts though, i took 10grams wet... and that was a fuckin crazy trip


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Joshua]
    #3228551 - 10/08/04 12:06 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the report of an error in my above post. I did not notice it. I corrected and added a thank you for letting me know note.

mj

As for a dried ounce an the effects,
Lets not forget the mother and two young just turned teenage boys of hers in Menton France who ate two fresh ounces of Copelandia cyanescens in a soup. Can you imagine what they went through.

have a shroomy day,

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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3228954 - 10/08/04 01:21 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Got a link to the article?

I ate close to three ounces of fresh cubes once. Needless to say I didn't exist anymore. I experienced being reborn into my body when I returned to conscious awareness...it was quite interesting. Not being prepared for such an event would have been horrifying.

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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3229089 - 10/08/04 01:43 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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mjshroomer said:
As for a dried ounce an the effects,
Lets not forget the mother and two young just turned teenage boys of hers in Menton France who ate two fresh ounces of Copelandia cyanescens in a soup. Can you imagine what they went through.





that would be intense!

pretty harsh ride for somebody not knowing what the fuck is goin on. ouch


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Psyclops]
    #3233037 - 10/08/04 09:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

any link to the article?????


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Psyclops]
    #3233046 - 10/08/04 09:30 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Would have been scary as fuck


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Psyclops]
    #3233293 - 10/08/04 10:39 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

The original article is in Frencch so I will post it later after my new shroom site opens in a few days. i have a lot of work so I would have to dig it out from the filing cabinet and then scan and post it. May take a wild. In the meantime a reference for those of you who have library access at a local Univ.

Heim, Roger., Hofmann, Albert., and Hans Tscherter. 1966. Sur une Intoxication Collective a Syndrome Psilocybien Causee en France par un Copelandia. Comptes Rendus Hebdomadaires des S?ances de l'Acad?mie des Sciences vol. 262:519-523. January 24.
This report of an accidental intoxication of Copelandia cyanescens by a mother and her two adolescent children occurred in Menton, France in 1962.. Over 60 grams of fresh mushrooms were consumed causing a most terrifying experience. In French.

I have a partial English translation somewhere. not sure. Let me check real fast.

Hm, cannot find it right now.

Its my B-day so have a shroomy day to all,

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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3233333 - 10/08/04 10:51 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

happy birthday MJ! :grin:


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3233471 - 10/08/04 11:50 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

hey mushroomjohn, happy birthday man!! :mushroom2:
you really have helped a lot of people, i dont think there is any way we could possibly repay you for all your info.
but if you ever need anything from us just ask.
peace and thanks again!!!
ninjazerozero :mushroom2:


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #13324427 - 10/12/10 02:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Semilanceata is more the less white  in their stems, while they are dry it can change to black/ purple kindah colour.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: micachu]
    #13324559 - 10/12/10 04:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I was thinking about doing 2g of dried libs for my first time.
Good idea or not?


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: micachu]
    #13326220 - 10/12/10 11:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

depends on so much ; )

some only need to start with half of that, its different. Ive heard 2g is a medium dosage though.

accept you as you, just be but let go, pure is only and so on..  (just some queries to go along with)

I would not reccomend anything regarding usage but some says  better before than after  :wink:

What y should do is to do some research about other who have enjoyed different species of thus and take it from there, knowledge my friend, some say its power but its actually so much more.

could the subject be moved please?, erius: I see you posted at the very wrong page :smile: I can also registrate that this post are from some few years back also :wink: :wink:

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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: micachu]
    #13326487 - 10/13/10 12:54 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you commenting on a dead thread from 6 years ago?


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Delirium_in_BC]
    #26273672 - 10/24/19 06:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I took 2 small libs but they were very purple along the edges, and I can definitely feel something.
( I'm microdosing )

( very purple along the edges I believe is a good sign for strength and activity )


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: gingershroom]
    #26273691 - 10/24/19 07:02 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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( very purple along the edges I believe is a good sign for strength and activity )




The cap margin is purplish due to spore deposits, it has nothing to do with potency.

Besides, this thread hasn't been active for over 9 years.


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