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Tobacco growers thread? * 6
    #26268279 - 10/21/19 07:45 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Is there a tobacco growers thread??  I'm currently growing a full heirloom varietal from the appalachian mountains, super small leaf varietal but the best I've ever smoked when I grew it before.  Never got much bigger then the size of a business card in terms of leafage.

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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26269528 - 10/22/19 11:24 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Those are 45 days old? They look hella small! I didn't realize tobacco took so long!


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26269922 - 10/22/19 02:24 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't, only this heirloom varietal does!  It's the best most calming spiritual tobacco I've ever smoked!


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26269925 - 10/22/19 02:26 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

You have more patience than me then! How long from seed 'till harvest?


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26269957 - 10/22/19 02:42 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I have a couple varieties of tobacco seed I tagged along with some cactus seeds I ordered, but I don't plan on sowing them until I have an outdoor space to grow them-- looking forward to it though!


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: coAsTal]
    #26270890 - 10/23/19 12:32 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Ive been thinking about growing my own tobacco for a little while now. Is this your first time growing? And do you know what the name of that heirloom variety is??


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: ninja cat 09]
    #26272245 - 10/23/19 05:16 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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You have more patience than me then! How long from seed 'till harvest?




The first month they didn't have enough light - I'd say if I had light on them from the start it would be about 3 months to 4 months tops from seed to harvest.

Don't have a name, just a location:  Appalachian Heirloom Varietal is what I was told.  I've grown them once before all the way out and they barely resemble most other big leaf tobacco plants at all.


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26272344 - 10/23/19 05:48 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Most indeededly! I've been looking in to the varieties available, but with so many the choice is difficult. You've inspired me to go heirloom though, and of course I gotta breed my stock. Interesting to see where this goes.


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: koji]
    #26272787 - 10/23/19 09:08 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I'd start with nicotina rustica for a big yielder, then move towards the heirloom varietals for that esoteric stuff you just can't get anywhere online or elsewhere.

If anyone wants seeds of a cool heirloom varietal like this, I have seeds that have a 90% germination rate, go ahead and PM me!


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26275020 - 10/24/19 11:05 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I read that the rusticas a bit of a harsh smoke I was also reading about how the nicotina rustica's higher nicotine content can be used as a pesticide, but I'm more interested in the ceremonial smoking of it.


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: koji]
    #26279002 - 10/26/19 06:10 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah mapacho has a rough smoke, but is very tasty and strong and spiritual actually.  I still vastly prefer the genetics I have.

Here's the update - just took all the plants to hangtown halloween ball and they are getting the energy and well traveled!  getting there 8th leafs!





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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Typerwritermonky] * 2
    #26281727 - 10/28/19 07:53 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I have been growing this variety of tobacco for several years, it is a Turkish type called 'Bafra'.
Plants grow to four to six feet tall with tongue shaped leaves.
Leaves dry to a rusty red/brown color and smoke real smooth and light, very pleasant.


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: turtle_hermit]
    #26283315 - 10/28/19 07:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Those are beautiful.

I don't smoke although I do use the leaves in the rest of my garden as a pesticide/general compost. Just the boring tabacum var West Virginia, I did get a hold of some rustica but I suspect by the flowers that they're simply tabacum also.

During a relocation I dumped some plants into my bamboo pots and 100% neglected them yet they thrived better than any other, the taller one here is about seven feet tall.



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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Primal Matter]
    #26285073 - 10/29/19 02:24 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Nice turtle hermit!  Yeah I'm excited for my babys to keep on growing!  They'll be outside in a greenhouse in a month or so, and hopefully get nice and tall and strong and big.  This varietal I have is such a slow grower though compared to nicotina rustica I grew, like crazy slow.


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26292246 - 11/01/19 02:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Do you make cigars?


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Matius]
    #26293033 - 11/01/19 09:38 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Within the last week I got some Rustica seeds to germinate! Theyre mostly an experiment for safe handling practice since i usually avoid tobacco, but the intensity of experience reports of handling it without PPE or drug tolerance have finally made me crack and gain interest.


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Matius]
    #26296574 - 11/03/19 02:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Do you make cigars?




I would use the leaves to roll spliffs with, so tiny cigars yes.  That was a beautiful experience.


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26347707 - 11/26/19 11:12 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Just posting an update.  One month later, and they are doing great!  Just about ready to be transplanted into their final pots.  Still deciding whether to put them rootbound outside in a greenhouse over winter, or invest in a small grow tent inside and do them all under LEDs.  Just about two to three weeks away from that.

Theyre doing great under a super cheap 20$ led light. 





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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26348076 - 11/27/19 07:35 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

So healthy looking!

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Re: Tobacco growers thread!! [Re: coAsTal]
    #26374058 - 12/10/19 09:57 PM (4 years, 1 month ago)

those look very nice. i found some wild tobacco in the bottom of a canyon by a hot spring in the desert last summer

never got the chance to go back for seeds. maybe someday.
grew tobacco every year the last few years, tried a bunch of different species and strains. i grew some from the hopi nation, i think those are my favorite so far. maybe ill contribute some to this this year


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #26583084 - 04/07/20 12:47 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)


Just got my seeds in today!! Any tips welcomed


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Psyche delics] * 1
    #26583089 - 04/07/20 12:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

scatter on surface of moist rich soil in thin trays, cover in clear plastic and keep them warm LOTS of light

do not let them get dry.

place in a sunny window sill during the day, under a light bulb at night constant 65-80 degrees F


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: MadMuncher] * 1
    #26585317 - 04/08/20 12:05 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

transplant as soon as you see the first true leaves poking out. be careful with the roots don't pack the soil. if you can get them in the ground or raised bed as seedlings they will excel like nothing else. they take a while to get going then they take off quick. don't be shy when it comes to thinning- get rid of any stunted or abnormal looking plants early. think i might start some this week


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Shroomigan]
    #26593172 - 04/11/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Within the last week I got some Rustica seeds to germinate! Theyre mostly an experiment for safe handling practice since i usually avoid tobacco, but the intensity of experience reports of handling it without PPE or drug tolerance have finally made me crack and gain interest.




Just started my Rustica seeds. I got a decent buzz harvesting my regular Tabacum a couple years back (no gloves), so it sounds like these might be a little too much without ppe :tongue:


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Sempeur]
    #26593322 - 04/11/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Be careful with the rustica, I nearly died once form that shit!


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    #26618962 - 04/21/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)


First sprouts


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26619212 - 04/22/20 03:17 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

looking good. seen my first set starting to germinate today so i set up another tray should be perfect timing. went for a ride down to this spot it's got some like jurassic compost brought home a sled full


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    #26619980 - 04/22/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, a buddy asked if I've got any spare plants but I'm a little hesitant to give him something like Rustica without a few warnings lol


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Sempeur]
    #26640245 - 05/01/20 12:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

here's the method:

soil: ancient moss compost , coco coir, potting mix(moss, forest products, perlite, worm castings)

use the water from the sky.

sprinkled seeds atop lightly packed compostable starter pots, covered in clear plastic under lightbulb at night and in the window all day

about a week after sprouting transplant all except one from each pod (like the right hand side in above pic)

very gentle with roots


the roots grow so fast

these are hopi tobacco maybe rustica stay tuned


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    #26655749 - 05/07/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

1 week after transplanting today



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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26670738 - 05/14/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

another week along, really starting to take off now


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26670762 - 05/14/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Mine are still really small for some reason?


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26671711 - 05/15/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

some types take a lot longer. these are an n. rustica cultivar from arizona they grow a lot faster than most types ive grown. give them as much light as you can try to put them in the ground or raised bed in a few weeks or so


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Re: Tobacco growers thread? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26722444 - 06/05/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)


Put some little yellow and KY21 in the ground today but been working on a bunch of projects so I've been busy.


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    #26969241 - 10/04/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

late set coming along



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    #26970019 - 10/05/20 12:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I got some 7 footers in my backyard just having trouble properly drying and fermenting or whatever


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    #26970024 - 10/05/20 01:00 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

that's the hard part keep them real hot like 110 build a little smokehouse or something. harvest in the morning on a hot sunny day if you have any left spread them out in the sun in a mat two leaves thick and flip it every once in a while then put them somewhere hot and sealed over night and do it again the next day if you can. then a smokehouse or metal box with a heater under it or something for awhile keep it constantly too hot to mold but don't let them dry out.


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    #27042322 - 11/16/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

so i put 2 layers of leaves, washed in cold water and still wet in between some foil trays with a bit of weight on it in front of the heater at night and on the oven vent when cooking nice and hot for like a week and they are sweating very nicely lots if juice coming out. smells amazing starting to look like tobacco smells very potent and sweet
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    #27053002 - 11/22/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

fuck they smell so good

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Re: the tobako thread! [Re: MadMuncher] * 1
    #27346061 - 06/12/21 09:17 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Got some "potent" ceremonial tobacco seeds in a trade here on Shroomery and this is my first time growing tobacco. I'm probably transplanting them way too early but annuals don't tend to like my usual DIY potting mix. I don't use tobacco but it's a very good bartering item to have and I know a few people who do smoke and they are very interested. :smile: This first year it just for seed production and a few leaves for someone to try. I'm surprised I didn't notice this thread sooner.

Pardon the gimped zinnas, they were in 2.25" pots far too long.



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    #27408466 - 07/30/21 01:14 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

what species is that?






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Re: the tobak o' thread! [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27408771 - 07/30/21 06:36 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I see all the poppies and calendula.
The tobacco plants in the background?
Did you plant them?
Best guess would be Nicotiana tabacum.


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Re: the tobak o' thread! [Re: turtle_hermit]
    #27409586 - 07/31/21 01:13 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

1 fava beans, indian and sweet corns, coos giant white poppy, athabaska pink poppy, hopi rustica, shoshone wild sunflower

2 marigolds, clackamath mentha arvensis, wild peppermints, wild lemon balm, wild horehound, domesticated ficus species, tenino datura wrightii, hopi rustica, local wild purple "clover", domesticated salvia sp. cultivar

3 melons and squashes

4 shoshone palouse cayuse wild sunflowers about 11 ft tall so far
santee dakota and hidatsa corns with some other indian corns of uncertain origin/lineage in various sizes. watermelon, squashes, oregano and local daisies and thistles and wild carrot
various kales. kales are wild in the garden now as self seeding biennials






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Re: the tobak o' thread! [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27409596 - 07/31/21 01:21 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

missing all my old collections that have been lost. it is never complete and my images are consistently terrible. should take a few years off of life and go seed collecting


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Re: the tobak o' thread! [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27428181 - 08/14/21 03:43 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)





Nicotiana Rustica progress. :smile: The plants seem to have more of a "blank" smell and seem somewhat calming but other than that there is no smell to them? Very fuzzy and sticky. Hornworms have been chewing holes in the leaves and I've killed dozens of them now.

I smoked one of the cured leaves from my barn and all it gave me was a scratchy throat. I don't smoke so maybe I'm doing it wrong? In hind sight my head feels like it's trying to float upward but it may just be placebo.


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Re: the tobak o' thread! [Re: DancingWolf] * 1
    #27428277 - 08/14/21 05:30 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

interested to see what the flowers look like on those they look like n. tobacum to me

they don't smell much until they're cured. the green plants have a unique sweet/sour smell



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Re: the tobako thread! [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27433810 - 08/19/21 12:12 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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    #27449494 - 08/30/21 12:55 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

seedlings showing up been throwing seeds all summer



rustica and/or this one





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    #27452872 - 09/01/21 10:57 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

last call for 2021 wild tobakos and rabid coyote

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    #27480797 - 09/24/21 12:54 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)

Gunna harvest my this N. Rustica today. Not doing cigarette leaves yet but going to try my hand on curing some wraps. I've never done it before and since this summer wasn't as smokey I actually got some nice 3'-4' tall plants and big canoe paddle base leaves. Here's some pics of the plants. I'll drop a link to my journal if I find the energy to log that cure.


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    #27482995 - 09/26/21 04:59 PM (2 years, 4 months ago)



Indeed. I was going to wait until the leaves started to turn yellow but some black gnats were really sucking on the leaves and leaving specks everywhere so I also harvested everything today. Not sure what I'll do for a fermentation chamber but that can wait; the leaves won't suffer damage just sitting in the barn. :smile:

5-6 leaves per bundle w/ rubber band, split the bundle over the string. :smile:


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Re: the tobako thread! [Re: DancingWolf]
    #27483636 - 09/27/21 09:54 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Aw I did the same! For my fermantaion chamber I'll use a paper bag on its side since I dont have enough to make a "brick" to ferment in. Also going to add some real licorice flavoring for a good sweet flavor.

Im going to cut and cure my cigarette tobacco this weekend or the following.


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    #27890071 - 08/04/22 04:56 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

late. theres more hold on

rustica and something else


derel's wild_1


coyote_1


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alexis giant_tobacum (maybe a hybrid)


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Re: ¡la tobaka thread! [Re: MadMuncher] * 1
    #27912007 - 08/21/22 02:37 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

:stircauldron: making salve with rustica tops and wormwood tonight


coyote_1 (autoflower) :takingnotes:

so late. see if itll pull through with a fall crop cuz i am not babying them through the winter again this year sorry
gotta get the porch done. then the smokehouse/sauna. wanna put a greenhouse up but i feel like that would finally draw somebody back here try an run me off. i should stop being a pussy


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man they sure like it hot once they get going i dont think you can overfeed them. wonder how easily they hybridize.


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Re: ¡la tobaka thread! [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27912138 - 08/21/22 07:57 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

:camping:

Got some rustica seeds via trade just recently, looking forward to growing this coming season. Tried to grow some N. sylvestris this year but started way to late, killed most of it due to inexperience…now I know though, next year it’s on.


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Re: ¡la tobaka thread! [Re: Soloist] * 1
    #27921977 - 08/28/22 12:38 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

ye man next year is gonna be tits for sure. we have really got to build this soil up this shit sucks the life out of it. i think tobacco is one of the most water and fertilizer intensive crops there is they are worse than corn i bet they would suck the whole creek dry if you let em
found some sylvestris the other day in a park and got a couple ripe seed pods so now i think i have 8 species among those 10 or 11 total cultivars in the seed bank. its a mess back there dont think most will even flower. theres a really special one i wanted to show you guys with long dark narrow sticky leaves that smells like sweaty feet but it hasnt shown itself yet and theres a few more that have been evading us in the desert hang tight

the yearling is from the old man bobby, they went feral behind his house for a few years. might be a good smoking strain i like that it doesnt get tall. been in the ground all summer its like 3.5 ft tall


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    #27944914 - 09/11/22 07:59 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)



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    #27962149 - 09/22/22 08:32 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)



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Re: ¡la tobaka thread! [Re: MadMuncher]
    #27989413 - 10/09/22 12:58 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

first little batch going in the jar. it smells like turkish royals



was aiming for merican sprerit went a little dark. just had a first cigarette, nice and strong but not overbearing, very sweet, slightly nutty flavor, - reminds me of some european shag ive had but not spicy or smoky
makes the commercial shit taste like chlorine. i think i can smoke this everyday

compared with mercan sprert (at bottom)


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Re: ¡la tobaka thread! [Re: MadMuncher]
    #28024494 - 10/30/22 01:35 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

wow ok i figured it out. you guys are on your own

the row of 4 at the top of this pic with the round rippled leaves, these are the ones you want for smoking


if youre trying to make cigarettes, all the other shit is garbage. the round wrinkly ones are nice and thin and they cure very easily to a sweet yellow delicious. the only problem is i fucked it all up, mixed everything they were never labelled properly and they all got hacked down before realizing so they wont go to seed now we have to cherry pick them out of the heap. i think they are darel's_wild_1 if anybody is paying attention. does anybody recognize this cultivar, is it burley?


comparison, cigarette (burley?) tobakko at right


counter clockwise from top right:
2nd cut (burley?) vs. 1st cut vs. mramrikim spitire


rustics salve with poplar buds, several artemisia and mentha species and wrightii flowers. slow cooked for a few days causing wicked thoughts the whole time. just got to find a girl who wants to rub this shit on her pussy


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Re: ¡la tobaka thread! [Re: MadMuncher]
    #28024809 - 10/30/22 05:10 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Damn dude this looks like nice baccy.
I have only ever grown Turkish varieties, dried and cured up pretty well.
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    #28028096 - 11/01/22 04:21 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I've grown a bit of rustica and tabaccum, always wanted to try some of the other native species like longiflora and attenuata.

That looks like some well cured leaf Muncher, good job on that. I've only had okay success with sun curing, though I haven't tried many other techniques. Are you keeping your jars in a kiln, and how often do you burp them?


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    #28028186 - 11/01/22 04:54 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

thanks guys. i harvested from the bottom of the plants upward as they started to yellow, 2 or 4 leaves per plant  every week or two, spreading them out in a mat in full sun 2 or 4 leaves thick, overlapping, up off the ground as high as possible, flipping the leaves over and rotating as often as possible, rinsed and rehydrated often, keeping the oldest leaves on the bottom , and the driest leaves rotated into the middle, wettest on top.
at this point you have to be vigilant about mold and ensure as much airflow as possible.
after a month or two the weather went to shit so the whole leaves were put into the oven on lowest setting door cracked off and on about 2 days (smokehouse did not get finished in time), soaked in cold water, hung in the wind for a day, then into large glass jars and sweated in front of a space heater on and off for about a week, then it was rinsed, soaked and cut, removing stems and put back in the jars to sweat for another week. the jars were burped daily, and allowed to air out whenever water droplets started to condense on the glass.

its an ongoing project, i have been letting the last harvests dry down slow at ambient temperatures and the ones that havnt molded have seem to yellow out just fine. going with the oven tek again soon i already smoked all the good shit damnit.

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Re: ¡la tobaka thread! [Re: MadMuncher] * 1
    #28043171 - 11/10/22 05:01 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

I'm currently growing Turkish tobacco (Xanthi). But I also have seeds of Nicotiana rustica.
N. rustica is probably too potent to use as is, but lately I'v been reading up on cotinine, the primary metabolite of nicotine. Apparently it has all the beneficial effects of nicotine without the negatives, it is said to be a nootropic, and the pharma industry once considered marketing cotinine fumerate as an antidepressant.

Cotinine can be prepared by oxidising nicotine with H2O2. According to a paper on cotinine, you can take tobacco leaves with high nicotine content, treat the leaves with 3% peroxide solution and the bulk (>80%) of the nicotine will be converted to cotinine.
Maybe it would be a good idea to try this with Nicotiana rustica leaves?


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    #28063511 - 11/21/22 04:17 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

where did you get the seeds bro i was thinking of growing some in my little box


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    #28070646 - 11/26/22 07:06 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

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where did you get the seeds bro i was thinking of growing some in my little box




i stole mine from gardens, parks, high desert river banks, and hippies. if anybody wants any i would be happy to send some just send me an address


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thanks guys. i harvested from the bottom of the plants upward as they started to yellow, 2 or 4 leaves per plant  every week or two, spreading them out in a mat in full sun 2 or 4 leaves thick, overlapping, up off the ground as high as possible, flipping the leaves over and rotating as often as possible, rinsed and rehydrated often, keeping the oldest leaves on the bottom , and the driest leaves rotated into the middle, wettest on top.
at this point you have to be vigilant about mold and ensure as much airflow as possible.
after a month or two the weather went to shit so the whole leaves were put into the oven on lowest setting door cracked off and on about 2 days (smokehouse did not get finished in time), soaked in cold water, hung in the wind for a day, then into large glass jars and sweated in front of a space heater on and off for about a week, then it was rinsed, soaked and cut, removing stems and put back in the jars to sweat for another week. the jars were burped daily, and allowed to air out whenever water droplets started to condense on the glass.

its an ongoing project, i have been letting the last harvests dry down slow at ambient temperatures and the ones that havnt molded have seem to yellow out just fine. going with the oven tek again soon i already smoked all the good shit damnit.

i can send you a bunch of seeds if you want



Do you have a particular smoke you enjoy the most outside of N. tabacum and rustica?


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Re: ¡la tobaka thread! [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #28074528 - 11/29/22 01:21 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

havnt tried any of the others yet. so far just using them for reclamating poisoned land via hypervascular pollinator guerilla gardens. some of them are really potent when you handle them your fingers tingle and your lips get kinda numb makes you twitch and pee


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    #28074810 - 11/29/22 04:53 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-tobacco-plant-has-been-engineered-to-produce-cocaine-in-its-leaves

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    #28084154 - 12/05/22 12:35 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

why

what did they look like before the ice ages were they shrubby trees?


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    #28084266 - 12/05/22 05:59 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Well there is still N. glauca, tree tobacco.


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Re: ¡la tobaka thread! [Re: Soloist]
    #28084559 - 12/05/22 10:24 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

did they have names back then?


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    #28084870 - 12/05/22 03:16 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Well there is still N. glauca, tree tobacco.




thats daddy. i think all the others might be inbred and dwarfed out from learning about winter


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Nice link. Had me occupied for quite some time haha


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