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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DcevLearn]
    #26230566 - 10/04/19 08:43 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

So a couple of "experts," who love to spread their knowledge on the shroomery, are now going around saying that food dehydrators are the only way to get shrooms cracker dry. I told them that it was not true and they asked me to post the issue here.

I say that dehydrators are convenient but certainly not the only way to get them cracker dry. I use a regular fan blowing into a box with the shrooms laid out evenly for around 12 to 24 hours and then move them to an air-tight desiccant chamber for a day or two. They get so dry that they crumble. They have zero bend to them and will snap and break in pieces if I attempt to bend them. I have noticed no potency drops at all. They also stay completely dry in air=tight jars, which also confirms they really are cracker dry. If you put shrooms in an airtight container before they are truly completely dry, they will become bendy again.

I have compared my dry ones to eating 10x the weight in fresh wet shrooms several times. I have noticed no potency drop at all.

Anyone who thinks that a good desiccant will not get fan dried shrooms cracker dry, has not tried it. I have used dried Epsom salt and silica gel packs. Both work equally as good if I use enough. I am new to growing but have dried over 7 ounces with the same methods.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: DcevLearn]
    #26230568 - 10/04/19 08:43 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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...I'm really a fan of colonizing pint masters and using them for grain to grain, they're just easier to handle in a SAB.



:excuseme:
You jst blew my damn mind with that, sir.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #26230584 - 10/04/19 08:52 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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I have probably done 10k+ plus transfers and tons of grain




And here i am feeling confident after i finish my first case :shamecube: I knew you were busy but damn boogie! That's a lot of plates.

Wonder how many some of y'all have gone through. Mushboy 50k, Caps 100k, Verum 250k... :hehehe:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Spiritualscience]
    #26230592 - 10/04/19 08:57 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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So a couple of "experts," who love to spread their knowledge on the shroomery, are now going around saying that food dehydrators are the only way to get shrooms cracker dry. I told them that it was not true and they asked me to post the issue here.

I say that dehydrators are convenient but certainly not the only way to get them cracker dry. I use a regular fan blowing into a box with the shrooms laid out evenly for around 12 to 24 hours and then move them to an air-tight desiccant chamber for a day or two. They get so dry that they crumble. They have zero bend to them and will snap and break in pieces if I attempt to bend them. I have noticed no potency drops at all. They also stay completely dry in air=tight jars, which also confirms they really are cracker dry. If you put shrooms in an airtight container before they are truly completely dry, they will become bendy again.

I have compared my dry ones to eating 10x the weight in fresh wet shrooms several times. I have noticed no potency drop at all.

Anyone who thinks that a good desiccant will not get fan dried shrooms cracker dry, has not tried it. I have used dried Epsom salt and silica gel packs. Both work equally as good if I use enough. I am new to growing but have dried over 7 ounces with the same methods.





I'm not sure what experts you're referring to but no one i know would say a thing like that. Dehydrators are fastest and some folks argue that the potency loss is reason enough to dry as quickly as possible. I haven't tested that out enough to be sure but i do know that it's not the only way to dry.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
    #26230606 - 10/04/19 09:02 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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So a couple of "experts," who love to spread their knowledge on the shroomery, are now going around saying that food dehydrators are the only way to get shrooms cracker dry. I told them that it was not true and they asked me to post the issue here.

I say that dehydrators are convenient but certainly not the only way to get them cracker dry. I use a regular fan blowing into a box with the shrooms laid out evenly for around 12 to 24 hours and then move them to an air-tight desiccant chamber for a day or two. They get so dry that they crumble. They have zero bend to them and will snap and break in pieces if I attempt to bend them. I have noticed no potency drops at all. They also stay completely dry in air=tight jars, which also confirms they really are cracker dry. If you put shrooms in an airtight container before they are truly completely dry, they will become bendy again.

I have compared my dry ones to eating 10x the weight in fresh wet shrooms several times. I have noticed no potency drop at all.

Anyone who thinks that a good desiccant will not get fan dried shrooms cracker dry, has not tried it. I have used dried Epsom salt and silica gel packs. Both work equally as good if I use enough. I am new to growing but have dried over 7 ounces with the same methods.



7 ounces isnt alot compared to lbs .. most of us dry at least a lb a day ..

It may work on small scale but it's not smart to take the chance when youre trying to dry alot . I can fit roughly 2 to 3 dry zips per rack on a dehydrator 24 hours later I'm packing bags ..
And you can buy the cabelas 160liter for 400 and do 2.5 lbs at a time .. or make your own

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I have probably done 10k+ plus transfers and tons of grain




And here i am feeling confident after i finish my first case :shamecube: I knew you were busy but damn boogie! That's a lot of plates.

Wonder how many some of y'all have gone through. Mushboy 50k, Caps 100k, Verum 250k... :hehehe:





Well you figure people running tests are doing a minimum of 100 to 200 plates a week if not more depending on how many varieties they have .. you will get there Haha


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26230609 - 10/04/19 09:03 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

cant argue with 7oz of total shrooms dried:stoned:

you can dry those shrooms over 3days with a box fan and extra shit or just grab a purpose built device..  :dealwithit2:

:crackerdry:
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26230614 - 10/04/19 09:05 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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cant argue with 7oz of total shrooms dried:stoned:

you can dry those shrooms over 3days with a box fan and extra shit or just grab a purpose built device..  :dealwithit2:

:crackerdry:
24hrs




He didn't get 7oz, he's full of shit :facepalm3:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26230616 - 10/04/19 09:07 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Anything other than a dehydrator is just extra work and far from optimal, especially for bigger harvests. But yeah, obviously there are alternatives. A dehydrator is literally just a fan with heat.

I'm also curious if he meant 7 oz at once or total. That would be kind of a big "desiccant chamber" for 7 at once. Either way, whatever.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #26230618 - 10/04/19 09:08 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Absolutely, I am drying less than 500 wet grams per dry session. I just use one single mini-tub. I would never argue that it would not be faster and more convenient to use a dehydrator.

I was just shocked that guys are so naive that they think you can't get them cracker dry with a fan and desiccant. Some people around here are so caught up in the latest methods that they think nothing else works. I get them so dry that they literally fall apart and they are not exposed to air for more than 24 hours max, usually around 12 to 14. I have tried eating 10 times the weight wet several times and noticed no potency difference in my dry ones.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #26230620 - 10/04/19 09:09 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

This guy has been claiming he got 7oz dry out of a bacterial spawn bag. The flushes were pretty meh. His ego is insane


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #26230629 - 10/04/19 09:14 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

No, the most I dried at once was 450 wet grams. I ended up drying 2200 wet grams down to 205 dry grams from all seven flushes of my first monotub. It was only a 27 quart mini.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #26230630 - 10/04/19 09:15 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I think he meant total ..

It's just like people who do open air transfers and get away with it then call everyone a liar ..


A person can get away with murder doesnt mean we all can...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #26230639 - 10/04/19 09:20 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

regardless of amount. go forage for a dehydrator. it takes X amount of time until you get fruits so a first time noob has like a month to figure it out beyond a method that takes days. we are mad scientist growing drugs i want them dry fast not 3days from now:crankey:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26230645 - 10/04/19 09:22 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I mean an oven set on low with a fan blowing on it is better then desiccant in my opinion


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ChardRich] * 1
    #26230646 - 10/04/19 09:23 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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This guy has been claiming he got 7oz dry out of a bacterial spawn bag. The flushes were pretty meh. His ego is insane




Obviously we have found one of the dweebs spreading false information. He was agreeing with the other guy who said you can't get them cracker dry with desiccant. 

The most I have dried at once was under 500 wet grams. I have only dried 7.25 ounces altogether. If I was drying larger amounts I would definitely get dehydrators to speed up the process. It takes me two days to them cracker dry using fan and then desiccant.

I documented my entire grow. I got seven flushes with no contamination. I got 2200 wet grams and 205 dry. Here is a pic of my first flush coming in and a pic of what I have left weighed today. Chardrich is just being a dick because he told me my bag was shit and he was wrong. I don't want to get in a back and forth with him here. He is following me around talking shit, because he is a dweeb.



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #26230648 - 10/04/19 09:24 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

ive done it:cool: also the old crtv monitor trick but that was radiant heat so sorta like a dehydrator:lol:

dried my fruits in 24hrs

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26230652 - 10/04/19 09:28 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I did use my small space heater on the third flush and they were dry in about 8 hours, but my closet was as hot as Hell.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #26230654 - 10/04/19 09:31 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Nobody debates you can dry mushrooms with things that aren't dehydrators. Dehydrators don't predate dried fruit, I'm sure. It's just not a debate any of us give a fuck about because we all spent $20 on a dehydrator to avoid fan drying for 3 days.

Congrats on your successful grow, though. That's solid.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #26230665 - 10/04/19 09:36 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Here's the most important part of the debate we been having. He's trying to tell me fan for 24hrs and desiccant is "JUST AS GOOD" as a dehydrator. I'm saying, fan drying is a crappy drying method and crumbling shrooms does not sound totally dry ime(sounds like my old fan dried shrooms that weren't cracker dry in retrospect) I'm saying, dehydrator is the best way to make sure they are actually dry and potency is definitely not degrading.

I think there's something to be said about how this question is phrased and the paraphrase of the advice repeated here. I still stand by saying they are not equal, fan drying sucks and is unreliable. Possible? Sure. But not necessarily a good method, and definitely not "AS GOOD" as a dehydrator.

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    #26230673 - 10/04/19 09:41 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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