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Offlinekillingravensun
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Morning News
    #26229060 - 10/04/19 07:59 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Ben Davidson, suspicious0bservers, is the best daily microdose of relevant science on the web, each morning he reviews solar conditions and how they may affect earth, he also gives a run down of recently released related science papers, there is much for the layman to learn from watching and investigating the topics he brings up.

http://spaceweathernews.com/



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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26231214 - 10/05/19 08:42 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun] * 1
    #26231388 - 10/05/19 10:19 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)


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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun] * 1
    #26231771 - 10/05/19 02:24 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Now I understand what happened in the other thread.  You aren't getting the science wrong, you just don't believe in established science.  At all.

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Re: Morning News [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26231829 - 10/05/19 02:45 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Not only that, he's quite certain of it, too. Certainty is never the mark of a serious mind.


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Re: Morning News [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #26233097 - 10/06/19 08:28 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26234825 - 10/07/19 07:57 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26237023 - 10/08/19 06:52 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26239631 - 10/09/19 07:40 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26241206 - 10/09/19 08:12 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

That channel might make someone catch attention deficit disorder.

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Re: Morning News [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26241264 - 10/09/19 08:41 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

well thanks for sharing your stunning insight, or was that a half assed attempt at perjorative humor?


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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26241944 - 10/10/19 07:00 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Morning News [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26242689 - 10/10/19 12:54 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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JohnRainy said:
That channel might make someone catch attention deficit disorder.



ONE BILLION MONTHS!  :snoopyes:

You ever see that guy who claimed that he could predict earthquakes based on the phases of the Moon?  Dude would "predict" something like "There will be an earthquake in between magnitudes 1.0 and 5.0 within 100 miles of **place that's basically just a clusterfuck of faults**" and then claim that he had a solid theory, in spite of the fact that earthquakes on the weak end of that specturm literally happen every day in California in enough abundance that it's statistically impossible for there to not be an earthquake within that corridor on any given day.  It was like watching somebody base a prediction that water will be wet on the motion of Jupiter's moons.

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Re: Morning News [Re: chibiabos]
    #26242831 - 10/10/19 01:50 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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Earthquake lights and luminous phenomena are spectacular features, which have been often observed and reported. It has been known that the crust deformation activates and releases gases/charges which generate the atmospheric electric field and currents possibly resulting in luminous phenomena before and during large earthquakes. The lightning activity has been known to be one of key parameters understanding the atmospheric electric field near the Earth's surface. However, lightning activities during large earthquakes have not yet been studied and reported. It is found that lightning activities significantly increase 3-8 and 20-30 days before the 21 September 1999 Mw7.6 earthquake. A statistical analysis has been conducted to study lightning activities over the epicenter 30 days before and after 78 land and 230 sea M≥5.0 earthquakes in Taiwan during 1994-2003. We find that lightning activities over the epicenter occur more frequently few days before the land earthquakes which is termed pre-earthquake lightning anomaly (PELA). For earthquakes with larger magnitudes, the PELA appears more frequent and expands a larger area from the epicenter. Our results confirm that the PELA associated with the M≥6.5 land earthquakes with the depth less than 20 km and 18 cumulative days meet the significant level 0.05. These suggest that for the PELA, the Earth's surface deformation plays an important role during the earthquake preparation period. We anticipate our study to be a starting point for developing lithosphere-atmosphere coupling model of earth system sciences.




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Lightning activities near the fault zone significantly enhanced 2-7 days prior to the Chi-Chi earthquake (Mw7.7, 1747 UT, 20 September 1999). A statistical investigation of lightning activities 15 days before and after 279 M>=5.0 earthquake days occurred in Taiwan during 1993-2002 are carried out. We isolate lightning occurrences within 50km x 50km area of each epicenter 15 days before and after the earthquakes and stack for the overall 279 earthquakes, the 206 sea earthquakes, and the 73 land earthquakes. Results shows for the overall, sea, and land earthquakes that the ratios of the stack sum of the 1-15 days before to the after are 56%/44%, 50%/50%, and 65%/35%, respectively. We further examine lightning activities associated with the overall 35, the 26 sea earthquakes, and the 9 land M>=6.0 earthquakes during the same period. The ratios of the overall, the sea and the land earthquakes are 59%/41%, 48%/52%, and 77%/23%, respectively. The larger values of the ratios indicate that lightning activities before the land earthquakes are enhanced.




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The Kobe earthquake of January 17, 1995, which had a magnitude of 7.2, was accompanied by earthquake lightning (EQL). The fault gouge near ground level at the Nojima fault, near where the EQL was witnessed, was highly lithified and anomalously mag‐netized. The characterization of the fault gouge and the mudstone near the fault suggests that the anomalies might have been induced by an intense EQL current which passed through the fault plane.




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People reported similar strange lights in the sky during the 2011 Christchurch earthquake.

In 1888, before a large quake around the Hanmer region, a strange glow in the sky was reported by observers.

One recent study documented hundreds of sightings of strange light, glowing, and aurora-like reports, from 1600 to the 19th century.





the earthquake event has an energy signature, observations are helping build a clear picture of the process

only non science types would dismiss a theory without investigating it first



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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26242840 - 10/10/19 01:55 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Stay scientific, Jerry.


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Re: Morning News [Re: chibiabos]
    #26243234 - 10/10/19 05:20 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

and you call me a troll when you post cartoon replies in a science forum, do you have any ability for self reflection?


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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26243287 - 10/10/19 05:45 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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and you call me a troll when you post cartoon replies in a science forum, do you have any ability for self reflection?



Sure do.  I'm just trying to drive home the point that I don't have any respect for you.  There's nothing wrong with believing in weird shit, but you're just stultifyingly angry at everything for some reason.

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Re: Morning News [Re: chibiabos]
    #26243434 - 10/10/19 07:11 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

so you dont have any respect for me because you think i am angry? even if that were true do you lack respect for every internet poster that you think is angry? seems more like you are angry because you dont like the content of my posts, maybe if you were better informed you wouldnt be so judgemental


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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26243657 - 10/10/19 09:31 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

What is the point of all this stuff being posted here?  It's just a bunch of chatter without really saying very much.  Is this all electric universe oriented talk?


The earlier videos do things like talk about the weather then go right to the heliopause and start talking about that for some reason.

This latest one said "earthquakes are described as lightning underground".  Like, is that supposed to be a better description than movement due to geological pressures that arise because the surface of the earth is made up of plates floating on molten rock?

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Re: Morning News [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26243668 - 10/10/19 09:39 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

those are pretty basic questions that are easily answered by carefully reviewing the thread, if that was your best attempt at trolling then i am disappointed


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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26243791 - 10/10/19 11:18 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I'm pretty sure that that was a rhetorical question.

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Re: Morning News [Re: chibiabos]
    #26243806 - 10/10/19 11:26 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

oh yeah?

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A rhetorical question is one that makes a point rather than requiring a direct answer




and what point do you think he was trying to make?


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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26243871 - 10/11/19 12:46 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

It wasn't a rhetorical question actually, it was genuine. 

I'm reading online that electric universe theory says the sun is a giant fluorescent lightbulb, that relativity is false...just all kinds of things. 

Not a lot gets said in this thread though, or those videos.  I feel like I didn't get in on the ground floor and just don't know where this is coming from.

Like, why did it keep flashing all those titles of geology papers while mentioning that electrical activity is associated with earthquakes?  What does this have to do with the concept of 'electroquake'?  What does that term even mean?  I googled it's definition and there wasn't one.

I went to his website he plugs called quakewatch and it's just gibberish and pointless babble.

It's subtitled as an earthquake prediction centre.  Are there any predictions?  I couldn't see the words "We predict an earthquake will happen at 'x' location and 'y' time." 

What is the point of all this?

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Re: Morning News [Re: JohnRainy]
    #26244209 - 10/11/19 06:46 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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JohnRainy said:
It wasn't a rhetorical question actually, it was genuine. 

I'm reading online that electric universe theory says the sun is a giant fluorescent lightbulb



you could read the Electric Sun thread and post questions there

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JohnRainy said:
that relativity is false...just all kinds of things.



the concept that gravity is more fundamental to universal mechanics than electric currents is wrong

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JohnRainy said:
Not a lot gets said in this thread though, or those videos.  I feel like I didn't get in on the ground floor and just don't know where this is coming from.



this thread was to bring attention to Ben Davidson and his work studying the sun, he has been instrumental in discovering the mechanics of how solar weather affects the earth

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JohnRainy said:
Like, why did it keep flashing all those titles of geology papers while mentioning that electrical activity is associated with earthquakes?  What does this have to do with the concept of 'electroquake'?  What does that term even mean?  I googled it's definition and there wasn't one.



not sure which "it" you refer to, electroquake is a term used to describe the electrical nature of an earthquake, the data from observations shows there is a connection between solar weather and earthquakes, in particular the coronal holes on the sun affect certain areas of the earth as both bodies rotate, the mechanism for this is known as a birkeland current which is a "rope" of rotating electrical force that connects the sun and earth, energy flows into the earth and when the conditions are right an earthquake happens, forecasting these events is a new science but so far the few people doing it have been quite successful

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I went to his website he plugs called quakewatch and it's just gibberish and pointless babble.



really? how exactly?

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JohnRainy said:
It's subtitled as an earthquake prediction centre.  Are there any predictions?  I couldn't see the words "We predict an earthquake will happen at 'x' location and 'y' time."



there is a short window in which to predict a quake, in his morning news videos he reviews the solar weather for indications one may he coming, an alert zone is created when conditions warrant, so far only larger quakes have been predicted, the science on the subject is only a few years old and still being developed, but it is an amazing start and is attracting many from the scientific community

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What is the point of all this?



its a science forum, its where people gather to discuss science


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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26244210 - 10/11/19 06:46 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Morning News [Re: killingravensun]
    #26245085 - 10/11/19 01:14 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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its a science forum, its where people gather to discuss science



There are about two, maybe three (if I'm being generous), people who actually do that and you're not one of them.  People have tried to discuss science with you and you just got pissed off and (among other things) whined about how cosmology is a conspiracy perpetrated by idiots who are idiots because they don't agree with your articles of faith.

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