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PocketLady



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The Esoteric Bible 1
#26227093 - 10/03/19 10:51 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Join my teacher Daishi for the first episode of Drukama Live, today Thursday, October 3rd @ 4:00 pm PST.
Daishi will be reading KJV Bible John 3, revealing the esoteric Teachings behind being born again, baptism by fire and water, and more. This is #1 in a short series on John 3. Drukama Live explores scripture from diverse traditions to help revive awareness of the universal living Teachings.
Head over to YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ10inNGBb4 for the live stream and discussion.
I am sure this will be extremely interesting for anyone interested in the hidden interpretations of the Bible (and other scripture) 
Edit: The recording is now available if you missed it.
-------------------- Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity. The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death. Tomorrow, when resurrection comes, The heart that is not in love will fail the test. ~ Rumi The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny. ~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir
Edited by PocketLady (10/03/19 06:31 PM)
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Re: The Esoteric Bible - Live at 4pm PST today [Re: PocketLady]
#26227848 - 10/03/19 05:07 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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The livestream is about to start right now
-------------------- Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity. The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death. Tomorrow, when resurrection comes, The heart that is not in love will fail the test. ~ Rumi The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny. ~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir
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Re: The Esoteric Bible - Live at 4pm PST today [Re: PocketLady] 1
#26227860 - 10/03/19 05:16 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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went to the website and got the impression you have to pay for the wisdom, is that right?
im no guru but i receive much more in return for what i give away, this is the first law
-------------------- evil always wins, good can only do good, evil will lie and cheat until it fools good into doing evil freedom is the ability to take wrong action, right actions are constrained by nature
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Re: The Esoteric Bible - Live at 4pm PST today [Re: killingravensun] 1
#26227871 - 10/03/19 05:21 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Doubtlessly you will want to support your community.
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Re: The Esoteric Bible - Live at 4pm PST today [Re: killingravensun]
#26227882 - 10/03/19 05:28 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26186182#26186182
Read this post where I already addressed this. There is no 'payment', but there is a contribution asked for (12 dollars a months for a whole practical program and personalised guidance). Not sure about you, but if I am receiving something, I will want to give back, otherwise I am just taking. If anyone is unable to give, the teachings are always given freely.
-------------------- Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity. The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death. Tomorrow, when resurrection comes, The heart that is not in love will fail the test. ~ Rumi The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny. ~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir
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Re: The Esoteric Bible - Live at 4pm PST today [Re: PocketLady] 1
#26228050 - 10/03/19 06:33 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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PocketLady said: How much did you pay them over the years? I have never been asked for a single penny, quite honestly, and I have been a member for 6 years. I currently live near my teacher and some other members of the group in CA. I gave up my job 12 months ago to come out here, and have had basically no income ever since. My teacher has paid my rent (renting privately, not in some commune), given me money for gas and food, and more besides. I'm even currently borrowing his car at the moment. Since the public website opened earlier this year, there has been a small monthly contribution to join (think price of a couple of cups of coffee per month), and that is because there are costs involved, a whole host of people working on the website, my teacher gave up his very lucrative and successful business to dedicate his whole life to this (and he has a family and young children to support.) However, even then, if you really can't afford 12 bucks a month, the teachings are given freely. Eventually, the idea is that we are able to completely support spiritual aspirants, so that, like me, they can dedicate their whole lives to spiritual practice and/or teaching, and don't need to try and hold down separate jobs etc.
Did you become Enlightened? Not that I am currently aware of. Have I had incredible, life-changing experiences? Yes. Am I a better person? Yes. Am I happier? Yes. Do I have more love? Yes.
Do you have Drukama friends who are truly enlightened? I have multiple friends who have 'broken through' into the Realized state, although none of them have 'sealed it', meaning that they keep dropping in and out of it. It takes a while to make it permanent. I have witnessed (and even looked after) people in this state, some of them I consider to be very close friends who I have lived with. My teacher is without a doubt (in my mind) fully Realized.
But what good does any of me telling you this do? Either the teachings call to you, or they don't. Judge the teachings, not the teacher. "You will know them by their fruits."
Until someone has been in and had a look at what's actually on offer, I'm not sure they really have enough information to pass judgement, except to say that it's not for them, which is totally fair enough. 
there is a problem here...
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Judge the teachings, not the teacher.
true to a degree, but evil always wins, some teachers have become adept at seeking riches and fame, the difference between the charlatan and the true guru is that the charlatan is doing what is good while the guru does what is right, it seems subtle at first but there is a huge difference in the energy of the two, the individual may not even know that they serve good/evil and otherwise be pleasant and knowledgeable but they will slow you down eventually, the guru comes from a position of abundance and always interacts positively with your self, the guru truly does not suffer much, the guru is jovial but stern, and ultimately he will empower you to leave him behind
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Until someone has been in and had a look at what's actually on offer, I'm not sure they really have enough information to pass judgement
this is a great point, it is popular right now to pass judgement from a position of complete ignorance, much of what is dismissed is of great value, the traveler just starting their journey needs to make significant progress right away or risk losing the will or the path, and that means paying attention
i was lucky enough to have gone to a "heavens gate" cult induction meeting, the people involved were quite informative, i could tell they were nuts, but still they had intelligence, i learned through them more than from them, i discovered that all messages you receive were sent to you from your future perfect self, so try to pay attention
from your description it sounds like your teacher is doing right, may you prosper
-------------------- evil always wins, good can only do good, evil will lie and cheat until it fools good into doing evil freedom is the ability to take wrong action, right actions are constrained by nature
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Re: The Esoteric Bible - Live at 4pm PST today [Re: killingravensun]
#26228081 - 10/03/19 06:43 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I whole heartedly agree that discrimination is absolutely necessary when finding an authentic spiritual teacher. In this 6 years that I've known him, this is actually the first time ever that Daishi has been filmed, or had any kind of images of himself on the internet, period. It's always just been audio before, because he has never wanted it to be about him, but to be about the teachings themselves. But that level of anonymity also causes questions, so a balance has to be struck.
Unfortunately money makes the world go around and we all need it to survive and to do things of consequence. I think what matters is the intention though. Is the money going to be used for selfish purposes (beyond having our basic needs met), or used to help more people access the teachings, provide resources for other people, charitable projects etc?
Thank you so much for the well wishes
-------------------- Love is from the infinite, and will remain until eternity. The seeker of love escapes the chains of birth and death. Tomorrow, when resurrection comes, The heart that is not in love will fail the test. ~ Rumi The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny. ~ Swami Chinmayanada Saraswatir
Edited by PocketLady (10/03/19 06:49 PM)
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Re: The Esoteric Bible - Live at 4pm PST today [Re: PocketLady]
#26228279 - 10/03/19 08:02 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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PocketLady said: Unfortunately money makes the world go around and we all need it to survive and to do things of consequence.
money makes the world of man go round, i agree, but there is an underlying energy which makes everything go round, it is more valuable than money and available to everyone, it can sustain you just as well as money and even better, but it requires full time cultivation and the minds of ordinary men cannot bear its price, but this is where we are going
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PocketLady said: I think what matters is the intention though.
money is a weapon and a chain around your fellow mans neck, it should be used with purpose, with a mind for war, evil will stop you from doing what is right unless you destroy it with a killing blow
-------------------- evil always wins, good can only do good, evil will lie and cheat until it fools good into doing evil freedom is the ability to take wrong action, right actions are constrained by nature
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Re: The Esoteric Bible - Live at 4pm PST today [Re: killingravensun]
#26228341 - 10/03/19 08:24 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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But can evil be readily recognized?
For example, a community leader contracts cancer and asks the members to dig deeper into their pockets pay for the treatments, versus allowing that everyone dies and helping the leader's end of life sequence to be painless to them and the community.
Or is it evil to object to a communities desire to keep the leader around as long as possible regardless of the expense?
How may the good be served in this example, in your opinion?
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Re: The Esoteric Bible - Live at 4pm PST today [Re: Buster_Brown]
#26228376 - 10/03/19 08:37 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buster_Brown said: But can evil be readily recognized?
no. it steals in at night, a wolf in sheeps clothing
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Buster_Brown said: For example, a community leader contracts cancer and asks the members to dig deeper into their pockets pay for the treatments, versus allowing that everyone dies and helping the leader's end of life sequence to be painless to them and the community.
Or is it evil to object to a communities desire to keep the leader around as long as possible regardless of the expense?
How may the good be served in this example, in your opinion?
i do not believe in good and evil, they are personal judgements that always entail bias, instead i do what is right
doing what is right leads away from suffering, doing what is right benefits the many without harming even a few
-------------------- evil always wins, good can only do good, evil will lie and cheat until it fools good into doing evil freedom is the ability to take wrong action, right actions are constrained by nature
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Re: The Esoteric Bible - Live at 4pm PST today [Re: killingravensun]
#26228868 - 10/04/19 05:15 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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killingravensun said:
doing what is right leads away from suffering, doing what is right benefits the many without harming even a few
Putting food on the table and maintaining the vehicle (washing dishes) It's nice to have you aboard.
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