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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26216038 - 09/28/19 12:33 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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I do like celltreat and eco earth stuff. These #11's are flimsy af. If im pouring plates and i have 2 blanks left i toss 'em. If i have 4 left i'll wrap them im plastic and use them nxt time i pour.
It's a good day. Fucking cold though.
Gonna get some wbs and a box of doughnuts and tell the world to suck it, go back to sleep. Prolly spy my plates, get ultra super mega loaded, drink lacroix till i piss myself, smoke more dabs. Yup...good day. In fact, imma puff right god damn now and go right back to dreamland till bout 3pm.



aye i heard that big bro, went and bought PC numero dos today and am curently sterilizing 20 jars of grain while getting smaked on some beautiful shatter


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Feasoghorm]
    #26216042 - 09/28/19 12:34 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Definitely recommend standard cling rap above Parafilm. Parafilm is great until it dries out and breaks when you're wrapping a plate. Easy to knock shit around and get pissed. A roll of Glad is like 10x cheaper and I can cut it into 10 rolls immediately. Works just the same.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #26216064 - 09/28/19 12:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Thats the scale i use to determine the worthyness of tools/methods.  The less i swear while using them the higher they rate on my scale


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26216227 - 09/28/19 01:56 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I've also been reusing the same scalpel blade for quite a while now, never worried about replacing it as it doesn't seem to be an issue

I just bought a butane torch lighter at walmart the other day & I'm loving it. I was using a little alcohol lamp & it worked fine, but the butane torch is sooooo much faster. Gets the blade glowing in seconds where the alcohol lamp never got it nearly as hot. Plus I don't have to leave it burning on the side which actually used up quite a bit of alcohol + needing new wicks.


I am still having problems with myc transfers sticking to my blade sometimes tho, resulting in botched transfers to the new plate when I can't get it off the blade easily. Any tips on this? Just need to adjust my agar mix?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26217055 - 09/28/19 08:44 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Thats the scale i use to determine the worthyness of tools/methods.  The less i swear while using them the higher they rate on my scale



Lol ahh...

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I am still having problems with myc transfers sticking to my blade sometimes tho, resulting in botched transfers to the new plate when I can't get it off the blade easily. Any tips on this? Just need to adjust my agar mix?




Thatd proly help. Actually, im immediatly curious about that.

Jst had to toss a grip of t2's i was slobbering on. Overnight that shite came outta nowhere. I get a lot of shit near the edge of the plate, right where my fingers are when im transfering.
Had a couple fat green death right near the transfer as well.

Got my white millet today. 40lbs for $14 @ the local feed was best i cud do. Getting exciting. Make t3's in about a wk, and them go to grain. Boioioioinggg!

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26217071 - 09/28/19 08:54 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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I've also been reusing the same scalpel blade for quite a while now, never worried about replacing it as it doesn't seem to be an issue


I am still having problems with myc transfers sticking to my blade sometimes tho, resulting in botched transfers to the new plate when I can't get it off the blade easily. Any tips on this? Just need to adjust my agar mix?




IME changing my blade up every now and again has helped with the wedges sticking.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: theoldclarysage]
    #26217158 - 09/28/19 09:50 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Any agar or material left on the blade carbonizes when flamed and tends to stick to xfers.  Clean that shit off when you notice it before cooking it on.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26217189 - 09/28/19 10:17 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Agar to grain bums me out at times when the whole cross cut puck flops out and dry humps my blade handle, fingers, and top rim of the jar on the way in. How yall do that shit?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #26217216 - 09/28/19 10:32 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Any agar or material left on the blade carbonizes when flamed and tends to stick to xfers.  Clean that shit off when you notice it before cooking it on.




It also helps to let the blade cool until visibly not redhot. Wait another couple seconds and then cool in the agar.  Thas how I keep my blades sharp for extended use. But any agar on there def makes em dull faster and premature cooling warps em and causes the bend


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TedsDead]
    #26217230 - 09/28/19 10:41 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Good advice guys. Replacing blades is a pain.

Note to self: Need more patience. 

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SunnyDayze]
    #26217264 - 09/28/19 11:12 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I always wipe any leftover agar off my blade between flames... I tend to be overcautious with wiping stuff down between transfers anyway. So that's def not the issue for me.

Could possibly be an issue with not replacing blade, but I doubt it. Seems to just be sticky agar. If I can get the agar to just kinda hang on the edge/tip of the blade, there's no problem getting it off but its when the agar gets up onto the side of the blade that it sticks

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #26217441 - 09/29/19 03:06 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I'm having trouble imagining what you're describing. The only issue I've had with not releasing the wedge cleanly was a new blade being so sharp that instead of slicing into the new plate and releasing, it'd just push the blade downward and the wedge would slide upward and remain too high on the blade to release easily (if that makes sense). This was a bigger problem with Pasty Plates because the rim is so high that your angle with the blade is more vertical.

What I've found to help is picking up the wedge with the absolute least amount of blade going through as possible. Like just a tiny touch at the tip of the blade to securely hold it. I cut a triangle with 3 slices and kind of pry it out from the side and then stick the tip of the blade in. Then when you transfer, make it more of a quick (but controlled) slightly dipped swipe outward; never pressing straight down. This sticks the wedge on the surface, giving it the grip/friction to stay put, and the quick exit slices through without dragging the wedge off.

Can you hold your blade and flame sterilize with that torch with 1 hand? I want a torch to save time, but don't want both hands out of my SAB or to keep it running.


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Agar to grain bums me out at times when the whole cross cut puck flops out and dry humps my blade handle, fingers, and top rim of the jar on the way in. How yall do that shit?




I'm not 100% sure what you're describing, but with A2G, I usually cut my plate into 1/4 with a circle and then  . To lift the wedge I want, I start inward where the cross cuts meet by the middle. Gently prying upward, I'll lift the quarter wedge on it's side and then I'll press through the middle so it's stuck fairly securely. With a fresh blade, or one that's still hot, make sure your blade is laying horizontally, otherwise it can slice through from gravity and fall off. I can usually just turn my blade over and it releases, but sometimes I use the inside rim of the glass. Either are fine, IMO.



One thing I'll recommend that I feel most don't do is practice outside of the SAB. It's tougher when it's live and you're all gloved up and shit. Take your old plates and practice outside of the SAB after the session. Practice taking transfers and cutting out wedges and dropping them into jars. Try different techniques on picking up the wedge, cutting it out, hand placements, holding the master plate vs. just lifting the lid, different blades, etc.

I used to practice dumping grain in open air to get my G2G technique better and it helped immensely. Even now, I'll still fuck around and make a bunch of transfers within the same old plate sometimes before I throw it away. It helps to be able to look up close and notice why sometimes shit happens like the wedge not releasing or sliding up the blade. We were talking about disposable dishes being bad, so keep them around and after a session, scoop out your dirty/old agar into a bowl. Nuke it until it's liquid and pour them into old plates to solidify. Boom, practice plates for taking transfers on blank agar while you watch TV.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #26217444 - 09/29/19 03:13 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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the wedge would slide upward and remain too high on the blade to release easily (if that makes sense). This was a bigger problem with Pasty Plates because the rim is so high that your angle with the blade is more vertical.





That's exactly the problem I'm having. The wedge gets pushed up onto the blade instead of coming off, to the point where I have to flick the scalpel to get it to fling off, which obviously is a terrible thing to do.

I also do only Pasty Plates, so could be more of an issue.

I'll try your advice - I probably just need more practice improving my technique.

That image you posted is how I do my A2G transfers a lot of times, using the glass to push the wedge off.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: pixelpopper] * 1
    #26217452 - 09/29/19 03:21 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, good that I understand. Yes, my advice is to focus on how you pick up the wedge initially. After I make the cuts, I pry it upward onto it's side and very gently stick it with the blade tip. And again, one fluid motion of pressing slightly into the receiving plate while exiting backward will release it very easily.

I have some transfers I need to do tonight and some PP's made. I'll try and get a video for you. My current setup is tough for recording, but I'll try and see what I can do. Edit: I can just do open air, heh. Probably be better visual guide.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26217466 - 09/29/19 03:37 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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I've also been reusing the same scalpel blade for quite a while now, never worried about replacing it as it doesn't seem to be an issue

I just bought a butane torch lighter at walmart the other day & I'm loving it. I was using a little alcohol lamp & it worked fine, but the butane torch is sooooo much faster. Gets the blade glowing in seconds where the alcohol lamp never got it nearly as hot. Plus I don't have to leave it burning on the side which actually used up quite a bit of alcohol + needing new wicks.


I am still having problems with myc transfers sticking to my blade sometimes tho, resulting in botched transfers to the new plate when I can't get it off the blade easily. Any tips on this? Just need to adjust my agar mix?




What I do is with the wedge stuck to the blade I bring the wedge over close to the agar in the receiving plate and I press the blade down into the agar and as it goes down through the agar once the surface gets to where the wedge is it just lays on the surface of the agar.

Not sure if I described what I'm doing exactly well enough. Sorry

Doing this cuts the wedge in half usually because of its placement on the blade but not always. If its stuck to the side of the blade it'll slide off once the blade goes down into the agar without cutting the wedge in half.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Yesum]
    #26217675 - 09/29/19 07:28 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

:takingnotes:

Stareatclouds - what kind of blade and handle is that in your video?  Never quite seen one like that

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Cthulhu23]
    #26217679 - 09/29/19 07:28 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Number 7 handle number 11 blade


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26217687 - 09/29/19 07:32 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Number 7 handle number 11 blade




Awesome, thanks Nate!

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Cthulhu23]
    #26217704 - 09/29/19 07:43 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Stareatclouds - what kind of blade and handle is that in your video?  Never quite seen one like that




Yep, handle #7, blade #11, available on Amazon and eBay (usually in separate items for best deal). It's the same as this, but without the insane markup.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #26217731 - 09/29/19 07:57 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I go #11 all day and no flames. I use one blade per dish and I don't worry about making multiple transfers, without re-sterilization, from clean culture. I have 11 handles and I PC them wrapped in foil in a jar and. I could use less handles if done properly as I can swap blades without contaming the handle, with a little finesse. If I cleaned and PCd my blades I could save a little, but I haven't thought of it till I read what yall been sayin.

I like Parafilm. Just keep it in a bag for storage and then do the same with wrapped plates. Keeps em moist enough to not crack.

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