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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26220503 - 09/30/19 01:38 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: vikingleif]
    #26220670 - 09/30/19 03:01 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: van hatton] * 1
    #26220764 - 09/30/19 03:52 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Just getting back to earth after eatting 3g of ten year old mushrooms which as I stated above were stored cracker day in a glass jar.  What a ride!


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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: polyflakes]
    #26220842 - 09/30/19 04:17 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

:camping: here for results! I'm curious about mason jars with vac lids too!


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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: toadal]
    #26220943 - 09/30/19 05:10 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

:camping:  time to set up camp boys

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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: Mystic E]
    #26221023 - 09/30/19 05:45 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I like half gallon jars with a desiccant packet or two. Stores 3oz gently or 4oz with crushing. I don't actually stash anything particularly long term. I'll definitely let my homies know the differences in the plastics cause if they or their homies are irresponsible I would be annoyed about it. My boy has been known to open vac bags of bud and just kind of roll it over and shove it under the couch no fucks given.

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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: toadal]
    #26221027 - 09/30/19 05:48 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

If you can bottle properly racked wine with the proper PH and alch content for decades you can put properly dried shrooms in a canning jar for decades if stored away from the elements.

I have 1.7 year old mushrooms sitting in pint jars in a room that maintains 10%-50% (winter summer) RH and they are as brittle as they day they were put in there. The D-pack inside indicates no moisture absorption ether. I also have 4 year old kilos of kratom jarred and it is still as crisp and effective as the day I jarred it.

Problem with jars is they take up lots of space so unless your powdering em, they are not very desirable.
A pint canning jar should easily hold about 5-6 oz of powdered mush with a little bit of packing involved.

Besides, we are humans and our destiny is to cover the universe with plastic!
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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: Failboat]
    #26221188 - 09/30/19 07:05 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I'll definitely let my homies know the differences in the plastics cause if they or their homies are irresponsible I would be annoyed about it. My boy has been known to open vac bags of bud and just kind of roll it over and shove it under the couch no fucks given.





Generally seems like people don't care at all about this info. Any time I try to explain stuff like this, nobody every remembers and I'm pretty sure they weren't even listening in the first place...

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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: pixelpopper]
    #26221273 - 09/30/19 08:05 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I had put ground coffee in Ziplocs a few times and everything within sight of the bag smells and tastes like coffee. The sealed freezer bags also fill up with water almost every time I put them in an ice chest, so I think those are good indicators that they aren't airtight for shit.

I've been using half-gallon amber mason jars, but that's not going to work long-term unless I powder everything. I just got some desiccant packs and oxygen absorbers because one jar is like a year's supply for me. Might try CO2 purging the ones that won't get opened for a while just because I have a tank for kegging.

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I know what cracker dry means. Personally, i don't trust it. I dry until the fattest bastard quits losing weight.




Can't believe I didn't think of that. :thumbup: Something curious I've noticed is that some of the big mushrooms will bend slightly when hot, but then turn completely brittle when they cool to room temp.

A note on scales: accuracy and repeatability is usually relative to how much they cost. Just because they have resolution down to 0.001g doesn't mean they're accurate to it. I shelled out for a 200g  Ohaus lab balance that is calibrated, accurate, and repeatable to 0.01g. It was mainly for measuring doses, but I've put dry mush on it in humid air and watched the weight increase before my eyes.


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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: Sir Pentinite]
    #26221335 - 09/30/19 08:52 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: Psicomb]
    #26221359 - 09/30/19 09:17 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I used to vacuum seal an oz at a time but I've had quite a few expand over time and gain weight. Either the mush punctured the bag or they didn't seal properly. Everything goes in mason jars since. Takes up a lot of space and more expensive but better than tossing them.


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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26221372 - 09/30/19 09:32 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I always double seal on both ends and handle them gently.

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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26221377 - 09/30/19 09:35 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

It's user error, cheap equipment for sure. Can't fuck up a mason jar.


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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26221405 - 09/30/19 10:03 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I used to vacuum seal an oz at a time but I've had quite a few expand over time and gain weight. Either the mush punctured the bag or they didn't seal properly. Everything goes in mason jars since. Takes up a lot of space and more expensive but better than tossing them.




The same with me.. A dozen one oz sealed packs all went soft in time. (6 month to a year).




Now I keep my sealed bags in a Costco pet food bin with a o-ring seal on the lid..



The bin is loaded with desiccant packs..



A 8 pound plastic bottle of Dry Home or Damp Rid from Costco work well for a desiccant...


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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26221406 - 09/30/19 10:04 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

My penis batch gained weight.  I put them back on the dehydrator.  Then they gained again.  I'm gonna keep em bagged in jars from now on
  They're still potent bastards.

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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26221422 - 09/30/19 10:19 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Oooo, I'm in for sure.

:waitingpatiently:


I'm a glass sealer + desiccant pack kind of guy. :twocents:


Thanks for sharing :super:


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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26225122 - 10/02/19 02:45 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

1. I just like to be clean, So, I wash.  Using a spaghetti strainer and shower head faucet (just seems to work better.)

2. Average time for your dehydrator with a max load? I use a different method/device.

3. Size doesn't equal water weight. Keep drying till they float.

4. On average a bad container will show within 7 days and if the fruits are put in cracker dry, there is a chance to salvage the bendy fruits for a second attempt before the risk becomes too great.


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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: pickle jar pete]
    #26253209 - 10/15/19 07:15 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

:popcorn:
I'm just about to get myself a vacuum packer, so this is of interest to me :laugh:

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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: keeno]
    #26253233 - 10/15/19 07:36 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

The people talking about bags expanding and taking weight need to double bag. I always put fruits in a Ziploc first before sealing, no exceptions. The stems are very sharp and puncture the bag easily. Just load into a Ziploc, put in a straw, and snap the bag shut around the straw so it's the only portion open. Suck air out until it's tight enough and yank it out with your lips while sealing behind it. This will keep "air-tight" for a decent amount of time (double bagging is longer), but protects the vac-seal bag from being compromised. Done deal. Also looks profesh and cool when giving stuff to friends that doesn't need to be sealed.

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Re: verum's proper vs improper dried fruit storage test [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26253234 - 10/15/19 07:38 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Fun. Tagging alone for the ride.


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