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Aiko Aiko
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Re: Florida man with Down syndrome died in hot car as caretaker slept off kratom "overdose" [Re: Fractal420]
#26212655 - 09/27/19 04:59 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I drink kratom everyday of various strains. I also live 15 minutes from where this happened. Theres not a chance in hell kratom alone would make me sleep for two hours in a car in the FL heat.
Kava/Kratom bars are all over the place down here and the Tampa Times is at the fore front of bs kratom propaganda. They have run multiple stories of so called "kratom ODs" while leaving out facts like the people had other drugs in their system such as benzos or heroin or both, but still insisting it was the kratom that killed them. The AKA (American Kratom Association) has a bunch of articles about this on their site. Of the hundred and something supposed kratom deaths, only one or two the person only had kratom in their system. And of course none of the media publishers went back and published any corrections.
And btw, its not just fox news. As someone else mentioned, ALL of the corporate MSM outlets are bought and paid for and are pushing a particular agenda.
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Re: Florida man with Down syndrome died in hot car as caretaker slept off kratom "overdose" [Re: Aiko Aiko]
#26212664 - 09/27/19 05:07 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just my experience but every single person I have met or know in person that is a kratom user looks or clearly acts like a loser. I know more opiate addicts with their shit together. Maybe it's just my luck but I'd wager this kid was just one dopey fuck to begin with even without kratom.
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Re: Florida man with Down syndrome died in hot car as caretaker slept off kratom "overdose" [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#26212695 - 09/27/19 05:55 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Every kratom user I know looks like a normal functioning person with their shit together many of which have been addicts at some point in their lives. I know a lot of people that drink it daily or close to it and none of them look like what you describe, at least not the ones that aren't using hard drugs as well.
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Re: Florida man with Down syndrome died in hot car as caretaker slept off kratom "overdose" [Re: bodhisatta]
#26213159 - 09/27/19 10:16 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Just my experience but every single person I have met or know in person that is a kratom user looks or clearly acts like a loser. I know more opiate addicts with their shit together. Maybe it's just my luck but I'd wager this kid was just one dopey fuck to begin with even without kratom.
Perhaps theyre trying to detox? Not sure
I agree that this guy must have some issues
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Re: Florida man with Down syndrome died in hot car as caretaker slept off kratom "overdose" [Re: Fractal420]
#26213872 - 09/27/19 03:28 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dudes hair is too light and fluffy to have been in a situation where he would have sweat like he was running a marathon in a sauna. I bet he went into his apartment and just left dude in the van not realizing it was hot enough to kill him.... when questioned, “blame the drugs”.
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Re: Florida man with Down syndrome died in hot car as caretaker slept off kratom "overdose" [Re: Amanita86] 1
#26213884 - 09/27/19 03:33 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is it too soon to say both people got baked?
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Re: Florida man with Down syndrome died in hot car as caretaker slept off kratom "overdose" [Re: Fractal420]
#26213904 - 09/27/19 03:40 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fractal420 said: I find kratom tends to be very different depending on form and strain. But i guess ultimately its part of the coffee family. I dont have personal experience with high doses really. So i dunno if red veins tend to go in the sedative or stimulant direction, perhaps even that depends on the person.
Again, i think the use of kratom Is NOT the real issue (I.e. The article is propaganda using a tragedy to say fuck kratom)
What if he just had some dabs and knew that wouldnt fly, so he just Said he took kratom? Cause when its something new (think "bath salts") the media tends to say "hey this person is blameless, but this drug is horrific and must be stopped" Or what if it was just a normal dose and there were other factors involved?
The media never acts like a more novel compound might be positive, they always try to slam it as some unknown danger.
We have already seen the telltale sign of the story changing from guns and suicide to just kratom
Agreed. This is definitely a smear article against kratom.
For though I really dont find any strain of kratom all that stimulating at all. And pretty much all strains feel the same to me (i dont know if thats because I take such large doses or if its because my kratom vendor sells the same kratom as a bunch of different strains).
I agree with what someone said earlier though. The only time kratom has made me pass out was the first time I ever took it. Ever since then if I accidentally take too much it just gives me eye wiggles and makes me nauseous.
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Re: Florida man with Down syndrome died in hot car as caretaker slept off kratom "overdose" [Re: trvptamine]
#26213918 - 09/27/19 03:47 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I really don't think there's someone pulling strings behind this to make it a smear on kratom i really believe the news is just that retarded and so are the people who tune in.
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Re: Florida man with Down syndrome died in hot car as caretaker slept off kratom "overdose" [Re: bodhisatta]
#26213957 - 09/27/19 04:05 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Is it too soon to say both people got baked?
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